Muslims against IS/ISIS

[Tiapan]

IS/ISIS or any label of extremist (takfireen), that our princible enemy , i believe All the Muslims are against them , it's matter of time to eliminate them .

as the west eliminated Nazis view in the west , we will inshallah.

Teaching them to read and write would be a good start.

 

[Godobeyer]

Teaching them to read and write would be a good start.

ISL and ISIS were supported by the West and Kings of Oil by weapons for many years against Syrian regime .

They did not recieve books to learn , instead they recieved weapons and guns from the West to kill.

 

[Smart_Guy]

I'm Muslim and I live in a Muslim country that happens to be the most radical of them all.

Yet everyone I know of is against IS/ISIS and we even make fun of them.

No, they don't know English well enough to share with the rest of the word (perhaps a hint for why we don't hear from them?!?!)

Sorry I cannot talk much about it for safety measures.

 

[Flankerl]

ISL and ISIS were supported by the West and Kings of Oil by weapons for many years against Syrian regime .

They did not recieve books to learn , instead they recieved weapons and guns from the West to kill.

And today in "Stuff that never happened".

The ISI which became ISIS which became IS was never supported by "the West".

 

[Godobeyer]

SO from where they got these all guns ? , so could you denie that AlQaeda supported by USA to defeat Russians ?

Indeed the Western goverments supported them by weapon from Turkey and Jordan for ALL 3 years ago,intentionally or not . directly or not .

The West moved against ISIS , when the ISIS threated the Christians in Iraq .

 

[Flankerl]

Which part of the Iraqi Army running away and leaving all the US supplied weapons back did you miss?

Also there exists a black market for weapons. I know, crazy.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Considering it has been mostly Muslims fighting against ISIS, I don't see how it's so rare that Muslims are standing up against them.

 

[Godobeyer]

Considering it has been mostly Muslims fighting against ISIS, I don't see how it's so rare that Muslims are standing up against them.

do you mean
It's rare !!! we standing against ISIS ?

 

[Godobeyer]

Which part of the Iraqi Army running away and leaving all the US supplied weapons back did you miss?

Also there exists a black market for weapons. I know, crazy.

I am not talking about recently event , i was talking about supplied the rebels (most of them terrorists) and helped them to traveled to Syria to fight Bashar from 2011 to 2014.

they were just tools for the West used them , and West now clean them , because they threated the Christians in Iraq .

for 3 years ISIS killing the Muslims in Syria and Iraq , no body cares .

 

[Flankerl]

I am not talking about recently event , i was talking about supplied the rebels (most of them terrorists) and helped them to traveled to Syria to fight Bashar from 2011 to 2014.

they were just tools for the West used them , and West now clean them , because they threated the Christians in Iraq .

for 3 years ISIS killing the Muslims in Syria and Iraq , no body cares .

Too bad that ISIS just came 2013 in existence.

Before that ISI was only present in Iraq. It was after they changed their name to ISIS that they expanded into Syria.

That the FSA and Al Nusra were supported with weapons is obvious. But ISI/ISIS/IS is not Al Nusra. ISI just supported Al Nusra with trained fighters from Iraq.


Also Al Nusra murdered Christian Syrians basically from day 1 so it has nothing to do with the situation changing.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

do you mean
It's rare !!! we standing against ISIS ?

No, I'm calling out the claims (which have been made a number of times here) that Muslims are rarely fighting against ISIS, and there aren't that many news reports of it. But this claim has no basis in reality as it has been mostly Muslims who have been fighting against ISIS.

 

[Godobeyer]

No, I'm calling out the claims (which have been made a number of times here) that Muslims are rarely fighting against ISIS, and there aren't that many news reports of it. But this claim has no basis in reality as it has been mostly Muslims who have been fighting against ISIS.

what you mean by "here" , this topic or RF ?

Syrian army are muslims fighting ISIS and other groups for 3 years

Iraqi Army are muslims fighting ISIS and other groups since 2003

Kurds are Muslims fighting ISIS ....etc

so that's claim is out of reality .

 

[Father Heathen]

How about when they hold worse ideas? Serious question. If we put our philosophy hats on we might ask:

If you are intolerant of rapists, does that make you a bigot? I mean after all, rapists just have a different opinion about a women's rights, correct?

Exactly. No belief or idea should be exempt from critique or scrutiny.

 

[Smart_Guy]

what you mean by "here" , this topic or RF ?

Syrian army are muslims fighting ISIS and other groups for 3 years

Iraqi Army are muslims fighting ISIS and other groups since 2003

Kurds are Muslims fighting ISIS ....etc

so that's claim is out of reality .

That is what she is saying actually. That Muslims are indeed fighting ISIS. She is saying that (the claim that it is rare for Muslims to fight ISIS is wrong)

 

[MD]

The Middle East is in the middle of a growing inter Muslim war between Salafis/Wahabbis (ISIS, Al Nusra, Al Qaeda) vs Shi'as (Iranian army, Iraqi army, Assad, Hezbollah, Yemen Houthis). The other states will get more and more drawn in, like the Turks vs Kurds, Lebanon, Israel, Jordan and Saudi Arabia. Eventually this will become a full scale regional war between Salafist jihadis and anyone who proposes anything different (Shi'a governments, military dictatorsihps, etc).

In the middle of this war however, other religious minorities like Christians, Yezidis and Zoroastrians are getting wiped from the Middle East.

 

[Godobeyer]

That is what she is saying actually. That Muslims are indeed fighting ISIS. She is saying that (the claim that it is rare for Muslims to fight ISIS is wrong)

SO i was misunderstand her , thank you for explain it to me

 

[Smart_Guy]

SO i was misunderstand her , thank you for explain it to me

Yup

We need to seek the good intentions in people before the bad so at least we do not get out of it sinful. After all we are only sharing thoughts here. You know the verse that tells to not jump to doubt others as some of it is a sin. إن بعض الظن إثم

Bless you, and all those seeing this

 

[Tiapan]

ISL and ISIS were supported by the West and Kings of Oil by weapons for many years against Syrian regime .

They did not recieve books to learn , instead they recieved weapons and guns from the West to kill.

I thought Kalashnikov AK47's were Russian or Chinese not Western.

Cheers

 

[Shadow Wolf]

The Middle East is in the middle of a growing inter Muslim war between Salafis/Wahabbis (ISIS, Al Nusra, Al Qaeda) vs Shi'as (Iranian army, Iraqi army, Assad, Hezbollah, Yemen Houthis). The other states will get more and more drawn in, like the Turks vs Kurds, Lebanon, Israel, Jordan and Saudi Arabia. Eventually this will become a full scale regional war between Salafist jihadis and anyone who proposes anything different (Shi'a governments, military dictatorsihps, etc).

In the middle of this war however, other religious minorities like Christians, Yezidis and Zoroastrians are getting wiped from the Middle East.

True. It makes me wonder really just how good of a thing it was that the Ottoman Empire came to an end. At least they extended tolerance and some protection towards Christians and other non-Muslims.

 

[icehorse]

Hey Smart_Guy,

There's a distinction that I think got lost... Of course when ISIS invades a city the Muslims in that city are fighting back.

The question I'm interested in would be a question we could ask of SA or Iran: Will your countries step in before ISIS is at your border and fight with the Muslims whose cities are currently under attack?