I believe your description, @Smart_Guy , but it does little to reassure me.
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Muslims and Islam
- Thread starter Nicholas
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No problem bro. It's a matter of belief (both with or against) and I respect that
Pastek
Sunni muslim
It's against Islam. In general people who quote from this website are the same who quote from Wikislam which is anti-Islam.
Of course it report things like violence who happen in muslim or non-muslim countries made by some muslims -which is ok- but it also give bad interpretation of Islam and only give bad image of Islam.
I don't know if you can see this image from their page :
It's the picture of the day, of course each day a bad image.
And what you have under the bad photo is always a verse out of context, today it's :
"Islam's Latest Contributions to Peace"
"Mohammed is Allah's apostle. Those who follow him are harsh to the unbelievers but merciful to one another" Quran 48:29"
They take a different verse and say ironically it's our "contribution to peace".
This resume what the site is about. Not just informing about bad acts made by muslims (which is normal to report it) or their interpretation of some subjects (like slavery, jiziya etc) which is not a problem too as everyone may have his own interpretation and opinion, the problem is it's always negative and show Islam as an evil religion.
For exemple they say in the front page with an image of crazy angry muslims vs a normal scientist man (jewish)
"In 2007 Islam and Judaism's holiest holidays overlapped for 10 days.
Muslims racked up 397 dead bodies in 94 terror attacks across 10
countries during this time... while Jews worked on their 159th Nobel Prize."
The person who created this thread only want to bash Islam because he always take this website as a reference. I'm not sure he's only here for a debate.
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Useless2015
Active Member
A good approach to what? This doesn't even make sense. Is the author trying to prove that muslims are human beings aswell?
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It's against Islam. In general people who quote from this website are the same who quote from Wikislam which is anti-Islam.
Of course it report things like violence who happen in muslim or non-muslim countries made by some muslims -which is ok- but it also give bad interpretation of Islam and only give bad image of Islam.
I don't know if you can see this image from their page :
It's the picture of the day, of course each day a bad image.
And what you have under the bad photo is always a verse out of context, today it's :
"Islam's Latest Contributions to Peace"
"Mohammed is Allah's apostle. Those who follow him are harsh to the unbelievers but merciful to one another" Quran 48:29"
They take a different verse and say ironically it's our "contribution to peace".
This resume what the site is about. Not just informing about bad acts made by muslims (which is normal to report it) or their interpretation of some subjects (like slavery, jiziya etc) which is not a problem too as everyone may have his own interpretation and opinion, the problem is it's always negative and show Islam as an evil religion.
For exemple they say in the front page with an image of crazy angry muslims vs a normal scientist man (jewish)
"In 2007 Islam and Judaism's holiest holidays overlapped for 10 days.
Muslims racked up 397 dead bodies in 94 terror attacks across 10
countries during this time... while Jews worked on their 159th Nobel Prize."
The person who created this thread only want to bash Islam because he always take this website as a reference. I'm not sure he's only here for a debate.
Hmm, this figures why it is blocked here. It has motives against Islam.
No, the image is not showing, but I managed to show it with my super duper computer skills
No worries, God will prevail his light whither haters likes or not
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I wonder if anyone feels like addressing the matter of whether the article is insulting or rather criticizing Islam, and what the difference would be.
I would say it is considered reverse proselytizing (if I get the expression right), which is also against the rules of RF
mahasn ebn sawresho
Well-Known Member
I browsed that site on the WebI agree.
Maybe it is blocked because it insults Islam?
I have my ways to bypass the censoring tho
But I can't do it here at work. Maybe when I get back home.
He documentary site to all terrorist acts to Islam in the modern era
Is this against Islam ???
Criminology examines crime through documents and the Ministry of Justice, as well as prisons
This site examines the terrorism of Islamic law and the Islamic terrorist acts
I'm saying "maybe". Dunno what the real reason is.
mahasn ebn sawresho
Well-Known Member
Islam is an ideology - a set of ideas. It is not defined by what any Muslim wants it to be, but by what it is. No ideology is above critique - particularly one that explicitly seeks political and social dominance over every person on the planet.
Yes, that's true words
Every ideology is exposed to criticism, including the Koran and Mohammed also
The Muslim has to prove his argument when the dialog through dialogue and not through murder and terrorism
Yes, that's true words
Every ideology is exposed to criticism, including the Koran and Mohammed also
The Muslim has to prove his argument when the dialog through dialogue and not through murder and terrorism
mahasn ebn sawresho
Well-Known Member
We go back to the twisting and turning
Is it in favor or against Muslims and Islam?[/QUOTE]
This is your words before to participate in Thread
Where are the word maybe
Mute intellectual freedom and the abolition of free thought is of Islamic law attributes
I've been killing Muslims and Islam Antkaddo them Farag Foda and Juha and others
Islamic books I spoke about a special case
It is what is the reason for killing the mother Carvh
It was an old Samarra but she was a poet critical of Islam
Mohammed sent his soldiers and killed her ugly way
And placed between two camels were constructed two halves
For this reason, prevent Moaqah on the net is one of the axioms of all Muslim countries, not just Saudi Arabia
I kept holding myself back for so many times before, but I can't hold it back this this... this:
Please, if you don't understand English well enough, don't post long off-topic and random posts like these. It ruins the discussion's flow. Bash Islam as much as you want but in new threads.
Shad
Veteran Member
It does not have views which align with how the authorities in KSA view Islam. The issue is that it highlight the negatives for the most part. I would be surprised if it mentioned anything positive about the family structure of Muslims. On the other hand KSA does the reverse. Different agendas in conflict really while one having the power to shutdown access for it's population.
You need to setup a VPN or use a proxy to bypass those "restrictions"
Then I guess it is because that specifically highlighting negative notions is considered a hate speech to them, specially that it is about something they highly look at? I mean, generally nothing is perceived perfect, so specifically doing that most likely hold some negative ulterior motives behind it. The name of the website is already sarcastic "thereligionofpiece.com".
No worries, I have my own ways to bypass such things already
Shad
Veteran Member
Then I guess it is because that specifically highlighting negative notions is considered a hate speech to them, specially that it is about something they highly look at? I mean, generally nothing is perceived perfect, so specifically doing that most likely hold some negative ulterior motives behind it. The name of the website is already sarcastic "thereligionofpiece.com".
No worries, I have my own ways to bypass such things already
The agenda is obvious for the website. The obvious rejection of anything negative to Islam is the agenda of KSA. Hate speech is a stretch since it is criticizing the Quran and Muslim interpretation of it. It is an anti-apologist website at best/worst depending on individual view.
Nicholas
Bodhicitta
Good grief, such stress over this website. It seems plain enough - Reynolds is critical of Islam, but supportive of Muslims who he looks at as individuals - just as his explanation says.
I agree with that approach, which can be applied to any system of thought or religion and the adherents thereto.
I agree with that approach, which can be applied to any system of thought or religion and the adherents thereto.
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First I ever hear of reverse proselism. It sounds like something that should be encouraged, but I can't say I have a grasp of the idea.I would say it is considered reverse proselytizing (if I get the expression right), which is also against the rules of RF
Actually, I'm confused myself. Are attempts to belittle a religion with propaganda with possible ulterior motives to make people hate a religion considered proselytizing? I've been told that verses are taken out of context in that website. Or is that bullying?
In my experience, Islam in particular tends to be over-defensive when it comes to criticism, including internal criticism.
As for motives... well, I don't think there is much if anything to fault in those of the article linked to by the OP. If anything, it stops just short of real criticism.
Religion should welcome criticism. It is necessary to keep practice honest and healthy.