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Muslims: Are Hadithes always to be interpreted literally and Outwardly?

Sha'irullah

رسول الآلهة
I asked all Muslims. They have not participated. Let's see....

I believe there is only 1 Qur'aniyun on this entire forum and he is not even a regular.

I have personally never met an adherent to the Submitters organization in real life or even online. Rare bunch
 

InvestigateTruth

Veteran Member
I believe there is only 1 Qur'aniyun on this entire forum and he is not even a regular.

I have personally never met an adherent to the Submitters organization in real life or even online. Rare bunch

Well, the OP is about if the Hadithes of the Prophet Muhammad are all literal or also figurative. Of course some of them are figurative. Here is an example:

Volume 9, Book 93, Number 624: (Also in Volume 9, Book 93, Number 559)
Narrated Ibn 'Umar:

Allah's Apostle said, "Your stay (in this world) in comparison to the stay of the nations preceding you, is like the period between 'Asr prayer and the sun set (in comparison to a whole day). The people of the Torah were given the Torah and they acted on it till midday and then they were unable to carry on. And they were given (a reward equal to) one Qirat each. Then the people of the Gospel were given the Gospel and they acted on it till 'Asr Prayer and then they were unable to carry on, so they were given la reward equal to) one Qirat each. Then you were given the Qur'an and you acted on it till sunset, therefore you were given (a reward equal to) two Qirats each. On that, the people of the Scriptures said, 'These people (Muslims) did less work than we but they took a bigger reward.' Allah said (to them). 'Have I done any oppression to you as regards your rights?' They said, "No." Then Allah said, 'That is My Blessing which I grant to whomsoever I will.'


As you know Qirat is a unit of Money. Now, in your view, is it reasonable to say that Muhammad meant literally they were given Qirat, or it is more reasonable to say Money signifies spiritual wealth such as knowledge and good attributes? Notice it is a past sentence 'They were given 'one Qirat'.
 
Hadiyth comes from the word Hadatha , Meaning '' Existence , Began to be ; Had a Beinning , Began , Or Originated , Existed , Newly for the first time . It plural is Ahaadiyth - Are supposedly records of actions , Utterances and Customs of the Prophet Mustafa Muhammad Al Amin ( Pbuh ) any action done in his presence and the presence of his companions .

They're thousand upon thousands of Hadiyth , Matter fact they're more Hadiyth verses then Qur'aan verses , Which are the cause of all the Sect-ism in Islam . The Holy Qur'aan speaks against Sect-ism . ( The Holy Qur'aan 6 ; 158 ) .

The Holy Qur'aan 6 ; 158 , States ; Surely Those Who ( Divided Their Way Of Life / Diyn ) And Became Many Things ( Sects ) You should Not Be Any Of Them . ( The Sunni , Hanifiyah , Shi'ah , Wahhabi And Other Sects ) In The Things They Became ( Many Sects ) . Surely All Their Affairs Are With ( Allah ) . Then He Will Inform Them Of What They Did .

Any Hadiyth's that's not back up with / by the Holy Qur'aan are nothing but Words of Men not of Allah Most Glorified And Exalted . The Holy Qur'aan is the Best Hadiyth , ( The Holy Qur'aan 4 ; 87 ) .

This is not an Attack nor Insult on the Muslim world .
 

Sha'irullah

رسول الآلهة
Well, the OP is about if the Hadithes of the Prophet Muhammad are all literal or also figurative. Of course some of them are figurative. Here is an example:

Volume 9, Book 93, Number 624: (Also in Volume 9, Book 93, Number 559)
Narrated Ibn 'Umar:

Allah's Apostle said, "Your stay (in this world) in comparison to the stay of the nations preceding you, is like the period between 'Asr prayer and the sun set (in comparison to a whole day). The people of the Torah were given the Torah and they acted on it till midday and then they were unable to carry on. And they were given (a reward equal to) one Qirat each. Then the people of the Gospel were given the Gospel and they acted on it till 'Asr Prayer and then they were unable to carry on, so they were given la reward equal to) one Qirat each. Then you were given the Qur'an and you acted on it till sunset, therefore you were given (a reward equal to) two Qirats each. On that, the people of the Scriptures said, 'These people (Muslims) did less work than we but they took a bigger reward.' Allah said (to them). 'Have I done any oppression to you as regards your rights?' They said, "No." Then Allah said, 'That is My Blessing which I grant to whomsoever I will.'


As you know Qirat is a unit of Money. Now, in your view, is it reasonable to say that Muhammad meant literally they were given Qirat, or it is more reasonable to say Money signifies spiritual wealth such as knowledge and good attributes? Notice it is a past sentence 'They were given 'one Qirat'.

It is being quite literal. There is no figurative speech int he ahadith and I have tried which is why I abandoned them.
Also the usage of Qirat as figurative is heavily unjustified.

I am not trying to play a trump card but considering that I understand a good portion of the Arabic used in the Qur'an I know the meanings of it more then English speakers and I can trump Muslims often times as well :D.

The ahadith are another story but nonetheless what you are implying holds no basis still. Sorry if I am not going into detail(lazy) but you ar enot bringing up a valid hadith that can be interpreted the way you inform me of.
 

Aamer

Truth Seeker
[7:185] Do they not look at the dominion of heavens and earth, and all that God has created, and perhaps their time is drawing near? In which hadith after this one will they believe?

Let's answer Gods question for 100 points...

In which Hadith after this will they believe?
A) Bukhari
B) Sahih Muslim
C) All 6 Sahih Collections
D) None of the above. Only Quran.
 
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