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Muslim, how does your scenario play out when most rapes are committed by people the victim knows, and statistically few rapes occur in the dark alleys by strangers attacking so-called scantily-clad women?
Agree with jamaesi on this one.
No, I don't think a woman is responsible if she is raped. No one asks to be raped. What I will say is I think all women need to learn what situations to avoid so she is less likely to be in a vulnerable position.
No, I don't think a woman is responsible if she is raped. No one asks to be raped. What I will say is I think all women need to learn what situations to avoid so she is less likely to be in a vulnerable position.
Again, she isn't "responsible" either way. Saying so is ridiculous. But saying where she goes, who she hangs out with, the way she dresses and acts, doesn't influence the numbers at all, is ridiculous too.
Prove it. Give me some reputable studies that show that what women do or wear has anything to do with her being attacked. I'm not going to hold my breath here, though.
Just because the reality doesn't fit in with your narrow misogynist worldview doesn't mean it's not reality.
Exactly. I can see (and loathe the idea of) a woman being harassed for dressing a certain way (i.e., "hey hottie" type crap), but RAPE? No, I don't think so. Yes, women need to be smart about where they go, but it's never a reason/excuse/apology for rape.
Given that most rapes are committed by a male against a female who have known each other for at least one year and the rape occurs in the woman's home or other residence where she feels safe while she is wearing clothing like jeans or sweatpants or pajamas and the rapist doesn't even remember what she was wearing anyway; how exactly is she supposed to avoid this situation? Kill herself? Never know /any/ man? Seriously, the hell?
Rape apologia is disgusting.
First of all, you have my sincerest apologies for what happened to you.I'm just saying ladies should be extra careful. Someone very close to me got raped when she was only 14. She was alone with two guys she thought she was friends with and they raped her. I was only 8 years old at the time and remember the aftermath of the whole thing. This event has led me to believe women should avoid being alone with any guy. I'm not defending rapists at all. I am saying women should be careful. Please don't twist my words. I was a victim of sexual abuse myself.
gnostic said:If I start a topic like this, some Muslims would accuse me of being "anti-Muslim" or "anti-Islamic". And topic would get nowhere and I would get bombarded with hate messages.
I am glad that you are having debates here - debating among yourselves.
If I start a topic like this, some Muslims would accuse me of being "anti-Muslim" or "anti-Islamic". And topic would get nowhere and I would get bombarded with hate messages.
I am not suppose to take part in the debate, which is for " Muslims only", and I will not. I only posted here to say that I am glad to see that the issues of rape is being addressed here, and (I'd agree that) the victims should be blameless regardless of what clothes they are wearing (or not wearing) or walking about unescorted.
I think we must differentiate between the cultural and social norms that could vary between the individuals and the societies, which I believe could lead to different statistics about rape and its perpetrators.Given that most rapes are committed by a male against a female who have known each other for at least one year and the rape occurs in the woman's home or other residence where she feels safe while she is wearing clothing like jeans or sweatpants or pajamas and the rapist doesn't even remember what she was wearing anyway; how exactly is she supposed to avoid this situation? Kill herself? Never know /any/ man? Seriously, the hell?
Rape apologia is disgusting.