Muslims Only: killing by the name of Islam or democraty in syria ?

[Godobeyer]

Your ignorance of the nature of the Arab revolutions and the sources of information can't be more clear. The social internet platforms, Youtube, Skype, etc., have played the main role in coverage of these revolutions...and it's used by the activists from the middle of the events. All the news agencies use the activists and revolutionists as a source of information and they admit saying "according to Syrian activists", "according to Syrian human rights groups", etc.

I don't think there is a sane person who can deny the tons of massacres committed by the gangs of bashar and the tons of the videos that depict them, the tens of thousands who fled their homes...oh right all this is faked by the Western media...


And what is your source of information? If AL-Jazeera and Al-'Arabyia are western media? Ummmm....www.basharthepig.com?
www.iranian_revolutionary_gaurd.com?
www.hizbullat.com?

honesly you shock me , by your ignornece that this is not the place to debat politic issue in this forum , i post this thread here to discuss it in religion view not politic
it's not the place to discuss a politic issue here .
all your reponses are here in this thread :http://www.religiousforums.com/foru...st-support-terrorism-syria-6.html#post3056468

 

[TashaN]

One can't neglect that there is something fishy about the support of the West for some of these revolutions, but on the other hand, one can't just submit for these unconfirmed thoughts and leave his brothers and sisters die in vain in Syria.

Just one question, are the women, the elderly, and the children who are being killed by the dozen in Syria terrorists and part of some sort of militia?

 

[Sajdah]

i post this thread here to discuss it in religion view not politic
it's not the place to discuss a politic issue here .

The religious view here for your case is:

وَلَا تَرْكَنُوا إِلَى الَّذِينَ ظَلَمُوا فَتَمَسَّكُمُ النَّارُ وَمَا لَكُمْ مِنْ دُونِ اللَّهِ مِنْ أَوْلِيَاءَ ثُمَّ لَا تُنْصَرُونَ
113: سورة هود

And incline not to those who do wrong, or the Fire will seize you; and ye have no protectors other than Allah, nor shall ye be helped.

 

[Godobeyer]

The religious view here for your case is:

وَلَا تَرْكَنُوا إِلَى الَّذِينَ ظَلَمُوا فَتَمَسَّكُمُ النَّارُ وَمَا لَكُمْ مِنْ دُونِ اللَّهِ مِنْ أَوْلِيَاءَ ثُمَّ لَا تُنْصَرُونَ
113: سورة هود

And incline not to those who do wrong, or the Fire will seize you; and ye have no protectors other than Allah, nor shall ye be helped.

for your opinion this ayah mention to oppositions that allied with the west and kings of oil ? or goverment that most of syrian people support ?

 

[Godobeyer]

One can't neglect that there is something fishy about the support of the West for some of these revolutions, but on the other hand, one can't just submit for these unconfirmed thoughts and leave his brothers and sisters die in vain in Syria.

Just one question, are the women, the elderly, and the children who are being killed by the dozen in Syria terrorists and part of some sort of militia?

i am with and i supported the revolution in Egypt and Tunisia BUT is different to what happened in Iraq and Libya and syria .

this scolars from AlQuds (palestine ) he deny the Fatwas of kill that AlQaradawi announced against syrian whom want Bashar !!! .
andthat's Qudsi scholars deny the liars in Aljazeera and other media , who deliver the lies (not pure information ) which in the end ,support the civil war and terrorism !!!

please watch this , "but inforuntly it's in Arabic language ."
[youtube]Wv7xzN8oE2g[/youtube]
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i am realy shocked how a 3 muslims vote to Jihad in syria !!!! hey people it's fitna between two groups of muslims support by the west , by the name of democraty, wake up it's a civil war and terrorism by the name of Islam.

 

[Godobeyer]

sister Sahar , you want to the syrian people to free do this ? we Algerian are free , but what we can make a distinction between a revolution (tunisia and egypt and bahrain and Arabic Saudia ) and Fake revolution "Fitnah" (supported by the west and kings of oil )



don't forget that we the Algerian had made the first revolution to the democraty in Arabic world in 1988
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U05y-f_Lqxs&feature=related

check this :
Algerian president dancing (freedom proof hhhhhhhhhhhh)
[youtube]gaKRtABdrYk[/youtube]
bouteflika dance - YouTube

 

[Sajdah]

for your opinion this ayah mention to oppositions that allied with the west and kings of oil ? or goverment that most of syrian people support ?

This ayah is directed at those who are supporting the criminal Bashar...Their support won't change anything of the reality, it will just make them criminals like the one they support...

i am realy shocked how a 3 muslims vote to Jihad in syria !!!! hey people it's fitna between two groups of muslims support by the west , by the name of democraty, wake up it's a civil war and terrorism by the name of Islam.

You are the one who has to wake up to save yourself at least!

what's wrong with you? why do you defend the murderer of this innocent child and the other 28 thousand of innocent people?

 

[Godobeyer]

This ayah is directed at those who are supporting the criminal Bashar...Their support won't change anything of the reality, it will just make them criminals like the one they support...

for my opinion this ayah is directed to Aljazeera and Alqaradawi and Qatar and KSA leaders ....etc , whom support the agenda of west .

You are the one who has to wake up to save yourself at least!

be sure , i am wake up.

what's wrong with you? why do you defend the murderer of this innocent child and the other 28 thousand of innocent people?

i don't know the credibiltiy of this picture ,who told you that this girl killed by syrian army ? may be it's just lie ? because i am filled by the media lies and fake information or exagerate information .

how about the innocents that killed by the terroristes (rebels )?

for more info check this

http://www.religiousforums.com/foru.../137136-why-west-support-terrorism-syria.html

 

[Godobeyer]

by the way i get the lesson from Iraq and libya wars , most of the muslims die there because lies of media and fatwas .

 

[Sajdah]

for my opinion this ayah is directed to Aljazeera and Alqaradawi and Qatar and KSA leaders ....etc , whom support the agenda of west .

Really? Al-qaradawy and Qatar are responsible for the deaths of syrians and Bashar is innocent?
The agenda of the west!!!! Do you know that the Gulan heights is occupied by zionists and your beloved criminal didn't ever try to liberate it or at least to shot one bullet there, but he simply slaughtered his own people for their demand for the basics of their rights?

i don't know the credibiltiy of this picture ,who told you that this girl killed by syrian army ? may be it's lie ?

of course it is a lie, everything on this planet is a big lie, the only truth is that Bashar al Assad is an innocent pure angel :sarcastic

for more info check this

Sorry I can not read more about this sort of disgusting lies!

 

[Sajdah]

by the way i get the lesson from Iraq and libya wars , most of the muslims die there because lies of media and fatwas .

You did not get anything, you are following the fatwa of some guy who is well known of his corrupted aqeeda, and left the majority of the knowledgeable scholars because it does not match with your desires...The same thing about the media, you picked out the Media of the corrupted regime of Bashar and you deliberately chose to believe their trash about your brothers and sisters....
Really if you don't want people to revolt in your country, why to accuse the mujahdeen and the strugglers for freedom of extremism and terrorism?

 

[Godobeyer]

Really? Al-qaradawy and Qatar are responsible for the deaths of syrians and Bashar is innocent?

that's sure , do you have a doubt about that , Qatar and his media and fatwa killing leader (Alqaradawy ) had big responsiblity in this civil war .

Qatar and Saudi arabia are not a demorcratic country , their people had no freedom opinions , how they want to syria becomes a democratic forcely ?

The agenda of the west!!!! Do you know that the Gulan heights is occupied by zionists and your beloved criminal didn't ever try to liberate it or at least to shot one bullet there, but he simply slaughtered his own people for their demand for the basics of their rights?

that's right , and it's agenda and isreali agenda and hope to see the muslims kill each other by the money and support of kings of oil .

of course it is a lie, everything on this planet is a big lie, the only truth is that Bashar al Assad is an innocent pure angel :sarcastic

i am not exagerate , but the rebels and terroristes , killed innocents , every blood drop it's in the responsiblity of Aljazeera and Qatar

Sorry I can not read more about this sort of disgusting lies!

can you post me a lie in that link ?

 

[Godobeyer]

You did not get anything, you are following the fatwa of some guy who is well known of his corrupted aqeeda, and left the majority of the knowledgeable scholars because it does not match with your desires...The same thing about the media, you picked out the Media of the corrupted regime of Bashar and you deliberately chose to believe their trash about your brothers and sisters....
Really if you don't want people to revolt in your country, why to accuse the mujahdeen and the strugglers for freedom of extremism and terrorism?

you push me forcely to talk about politic here .

Mujahideen against who !!!! against muslims , it's called fitna not Jihad?

why they "Mujahideen " did not turn their guns to israel ? it's too close or not ?
Jihad never ever support by the west and israel or kings of oil !!!!

it's from just the syrian media ,that scholar is not belong to Bashar he is palestian lived inside palestine .

 

[TashaN]

This is not a debating area guys. Better to start a thread in the debating area, on the one-on-one, or same faith debate area.

 

[Godobeyer]

i told them it's not politic section

any way i found a verse of Quran almost talking about Syria

[FONT=&quot]أَفَحَسِبَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا أَنْ يَتَّخِذُوا عِبَادِي مِنْ دُونِي أَوْلِيَاءَ إِنَّا أَعْتَدْنَا جَهَنَّمَ لِلْكَافِرِينَ نُزُلاً (102) قُلْ هَلْ نُنَبِّئُكُمْ بِالْأَخْسَرِينَ أَعْمَالاً (103) الَّذِينَ ضَلَّ سَعْيُهُمْ فِي الْحَيَاةِ الدُّنْيَا وَهُمْ يَحْسَبُونَ أَنَّهُمْ يُحْسِنُونَ صُنْعاً (104[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]والفتنة أشد من القتل ولا تقاتلوهم عند المسجد الحرام[/FONT]

 

[TashaN]

i told them it's not politic section

any way i found a verse of Quran almost talking about Syria

[FONT=&quot]أَفَحَسِبَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا أَنْ يَتَّخِذُوا عِبَادِي مِنْ دُونِي أَوْلِيَاءَ إِنَّا أَعْتَدْنَا جَهَنَّمَ لِلْكَافِرِينَ نُزُلاً (102) قُلْ هَلْ نُنَبِّئُكُمْ بِالْأَخْسَرِينَ أَعْمَالاً (103) الَّذِينَ ضَلَّ سَعْيُهُمْ فِي الْحَيَاةِ الدُّنْيَا وَهُمْ يَحْسَبُونَ أَنَّهُمْ يُحْسِنُونَ صُنْعاً (104[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]والفتنة أشد من القتل ولا تقاتلوهم عند المسجد الحرام[/FONT]

I really don't support throwing verses at each other to prove one is more right than the other.

 

[Godobeyer]

is to die for democraty ,is the same as to die for God ?

give a verses from Quran , tell us who die for demorcraty is exactly as who die for God ?

what is the explain of democraty in the view of Islam ?

is Halal to kill someone against Bashar or with Bashar ?

could not be the media diffusion lies, or exagerate or fake information about syria , as they do in Libya and Iraq ?

why Qatar and Saudi Arabia support the "democraty" in whole countries and they are not democratic countries , is not this hyprocrsy ?

to explain more this issue "
i am not democratic nation (kings of oil) but i support the democraty outside my countries and regine (persian gulf) !!!!"

why they did not support the democraty in Turkey (kurds ) and in Bahrian and Saudi Arabia ?


give me one verse in the Quran , allow to kill (allow to fight ) a muslims for democraty ?


is Halal to kill someone because of agenda support (lies of Media and kill Fatwa and by the west and some of their followers (kings of oil ) , is halal to die for democraty ?

as i know Islam allow to kill the non muslim invaders , and die for Allah not for democraty (agenda support by the west ).

a "criss " which a bring with here the destruction and civil war and terrorism and west occupation (indirectly) , we should not call it revolution , we call it "fitna " not "Jihad "

 

[Bismillah]

Close this thread.

 

[Godobeyer]

i sent a resquet to remove it to politic or privat section .

 

[beenie]

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