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My foolish wishful thinking: Nothing is wrong

oneeye

Member
I think nothing is wrong and every one is innocent. I know that this sounds as if I speak in a foolish foreign tongue. I formed this theory after a dream I had that changed my life. I am an ordinary man and never talked or thought about religion before it. It was beautiful and made me feel special for a while and I was sure I needed to do something about it, but had no idea what I was supposed to do. When I talked to my friends about it they ridiculed me and I ended up unemployed and homeless. I stopped talking about it and never mentioned it for the last nineteen years. However, not a day went by that I did not think about it. I realized that I was not ready two decades ago, but think I might be ready now. That is why I am trying again, but this time I am approaching strangers on the internet.
Before you ridicule my theory, please keep an open mind (it will sound to good to be true), read 1 Corinthians chapters 1-16 and 2 Corinthians chapters 1-13 and see if you can tell why I wanted you to read it.

My theory

Everything in the universe is working together towards the same goal. Nothing can stop it from reaching this goal. Nothing is doing anything wrong and everything is exactly the way it should be. Everything that exists has a purpose and is accounted for and nothing is lost, forgotten or unnecessary. Different parts have different functions, but the same goal.

The goal is perfection.

Humans are the sons and daughters of the universe and everything exists for our benefit. Perfection is a gift to us and it will be defined according to our needs.

Our perfect destiny will not be part of this universe and will exist in a completely different realm. This universe is our place of birth but it is only temporary. Our eternal home will operate under a new set of rules. There will be no pain, suffering, hunger, hate, war, jealousy or death. We will have perfect new bodies but the same identities and memories. We will keep our name, and our family will be the same one we have in this life. When our perfect home is ready, the dead will wake up and enter. The dead do not experience time the same as the living. They might have been dead or “sleeping” for thousands of years, but it would feel as if they never died, but instantly switched from this life to the next. All humans will receive this gift. There will be no exception.

All humans were born innocent and will forever remain innocent and blameless. Even the most evil men and women are completely without blame. They were evil for a reason. Sinners and saints, priests and prostitutes, believers and atheists, etc are all working together as one towards the same goal. We are helping to build our future home. Every action, whether good or bad, is necessary. There is no wrong, everything is right.

So how can we do bad deeds and remain good? The secret is that no human is in control of his or her actions. We think we have free will and are responsible for our actions, but we are not. Each of us is unwittingly steered towards acting the way we do so that we do what needs to be done. This may seem as if we are merely puppets on strings, but it is for our own benefit.

Our actions are controlled by something that knows us better than we know ourselves. It is the most mysterious entity in the universe, keeper of all mysteries and the sum of all knowledge. It has absolute authority, control and power. However, it is not a form of life. It has no body, is invisible and completely unaware of its own existence. It can best be described as a spirit and is similar to the spirit of man or Holy Ghost in the bible. It has a unique function but works towards the same goal as everything else. It is everywhere and functions as one in all and we are all as one in it. It is this entity that controls our actions and even our thinking, but we are not serving it, it serves us. It knows what needs to be done and use us to do it. It also knows how to keep us pure and uncorrupted while we are forced to do corrupted deeds. It is beneficial that we remain blind during this time so that our ignorance protects our innocence.

Now we are small in comparison with what we will become. Now we are seeds, but one day we will be mighty big trees. Now we are blind creatures of the night, but when the time is right we will see and become children of the light.
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
Welcome to the forums.

My theory

Everything in the universe is working together towards the same goal. Nothing can stop it from reaching this goal. Nothing is doing anything wrong and everything is exactly the way it should be. Everything that exists has a purpose and is accounted for and nothing is lost, forgotten or unnecessary. Different parts have different functions, but the same goal.

The goal is perfection.
Excellent. I have a similar idea, except that imperfection would be something "wrong," so in my version there is no goal, no progression toward perfection, and no reward. The world, just as it is, is as it is.
 

oneeye

Member
Welcome to the forums.


Excellent. I have a similar idea, except that imperfection would be something "wrong," so in my version there is no goal, no progression toward perfection, and no reward. The world, just as it is, is as it is.
Thanks. A good friend of mine often use the phrase, "it is what it is". He is a realist and I am a dreamer. I would be lost without him because he is the gravity that brings me back to earth and stopped me before I go to far. I think a world with too many dreamers would be chaos, but a world without opposites would be no world at all.
 

Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
Thanks. A good friend of mine often use the phrase, "it is what it is". He is a realist and I am a dreamer. I would be lost without him because he is the gravity that brings me back to earth and stopped me before I go to far. I think a world with too many dreamers would be chaos, but a world without opposites would be no world at all.
An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds.

The realist fears this to be true.
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds.

The realist fears this to be true.
Haha!

Thanks. A good friend of mine often use the phrase, "it is what it is". He is a realist and I am a dreamer. I would be lost without him because he is the gravity that brings me back to earth and stopped me before I go to far. I think a world with too many dreamers would be chaos, but a world without opposites would be no world at all.

It's both a strange and marvelous world, one where I can be labelled a realist.
 

oneeye

Member
I both love & hate you right now. Love because that's perfect. Hate because I was gonna do that.
Way over my head. I guess you are experts. I know nothing, but that is ok because it means I have a lot to learn and is looking forward to change my mind. It is my kind of honey.
 

Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
Way over my head. I guess you are experts. I know nothing, but that is ok because it means I have a lot to learn and is looking forward to change my mind. It is my kind of honey.
It's a Voltaire reference that he made. Look up Candide.
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The goal is perfection.
If everything is as it should be, then this is perfection. The goal then is simply to be.

Humans are the sons and daughters of the universe and everything exists for our benefit.
It's also for the benefit of all manifest reality. All of reality is a gift to all that is, not just the human form. We are not above the world.

Our perfect destiny will not be part of this universe and will exist in a completely different realm.
How is God outside creation and God is still God? And if That is not outside, then neither are we.

The dead do not experience time the same as the living.
The living can, and does experience the eternal, if they simply see. Being alive is not the problem. Being blind is.

The secret is that no human is in control of his or her actions. We think we have free will and are responsible for our actions, but we are not. Each of us is unwittingly steered towards acting the way we do so that we do what needs to be done. This may seem as if we are merely puppets on strings, but it is for our own benefit.
Though I admire you efforts to see the big picture, this here is a problem on a number of levels, not the least of which is taking responsibility for ourselves and our choices. It rings of some sort of fatalism, some deterministic reality where we are simply machines doing what machines do. The experience of living as humans however teaches us on every level that we in fact do have choice. It is that choice that can change things, radically for us. I can choose to be miserable, or I can choose to be happy, for instance. I would seriously challenge you to focus on this point of view.

Our actions are controlled by something that knows us better than we know ourselves.
I very much disagree with this as I very much believe God, or whatever you want to call That, desires our individual creativity. We are not dumb shells to do its bidding. On the contrary, we are Life in human form, and as participants we contribute to the Divine itself in the world, in manifestation. Becoming who you truly are, as Divine being, and as unique humans, what you offer to God is precious, and necessary to creation itself. It's the fulfillment of divine Love. It's birth. It's creation.

It is the most mysterious entity in the universe, keeper of all mysteries and the sum of all knowledge. It has absolute authority, control and power.
This is very Christian in thinking, that sees God as a being outside of creation. There are of course inherent problems with this, as it would make God limited, having boundaries, being external to everything else, as if creation dropped outside its body or something. That is much more a simple device of mythology, to personify the Infinite as some finite creature itself, like a man.

However, it is not a form of life. It has no body, is invisible and completely unaware of its own existence. It can best be described as a spirit and is similar to the spirit of man or Holy Ghost in the bible.
But the Holy Ghost is spoken of as quite vital and present in the world, not some blind and dumb force. It "teaches" for one thing.

It has a unique function but works towards the same goal as everything else. It is everywhere and functions as one in all and we are all as one in it. It is this entity that controls our actions and even our thinking, but we are not serving it, it serves us.
That's kind of a scarey thought. You mean God will help Donald Trump get elected? :)

It knows what needs to be done and use us to do it.
If it knows what needs to be done and sees us as instruments for itself, then it is not unaware of its own existence at all, as you said. It very much knows what it wants and sees others as objects to use for itself. I can't quite relate to God like this.

It also knows how to keep us pure and uncorrupted while we are forced to do corrupted deeds.
Yeah, I think this is problematic, to say God forces us to do corrupt things. I see a real problem with this sort of thinking. Potentially dangerous thinking. "God made me drown my children", claims the mother who killed her children.

It is beneficial that we remain blind during this time so that our ignorance protects our innocence.
So, should the Germans not take responsibility for the systematic murder of six millions Jews in order to protect their innocence? Should they remain blind to their own culpability?

Now we are small in comparison with what we will become. Now we are seeds, but one day we will be mighty big trees. Now we are blind creatures of the night, but when the time is right we will see and become children of the light.
Well, that needn't wait until we die!
 

oneeye

Member
I think nothing is wrong and every one is innocent. I know that this sounds as if I speak in a foolish foreign tongue. I formed this theory after a dream I had that changed my life. I am an ordinary man and never talked or thought about religion before it. It was beautiful and made me feel special for a while and I was sure I needed to do something about it, but had no idea what I was supposed to do. When I talked to my friends about it they ridiculed me and I ended up unemployed and homeless. I stopped talking about it and never mentioned it for the last nineteen years. However, not a day went by that I did not think about it. I realized that I was not ready two decades ago, but think I might be ready now. That is why I am trying again, but this time I am approaching strangers on the internet.
Before you ridicule my theory, please keep an open mind (it will sound to good to be true), read 1 Corinthians chapters 1-16 and 2 Corinthians chapters 1-13 and see if you can tell why I wanted you to read it.

My theory

Everything in the universe is working together towards the same goal. Nothing can stop it from reaching this goal. Nothing is doing anything wrong and everything is exactly the way it should be. Everything that exists has a purpose and is accounted for and nothing is lost, forgotten or unnecessary. Different parts have different functions, but the same goal.

The goal is perfection.

Humans are the sons and daughters of the universe and everything exists for our benefit. Perfection is a gift to us and it will be defined according to our needs.

Our perfect destiny will not be part of this universe and will exist in a completely different realm. This universe is our place of birth but it is only temporary. Our eternal home will operate under a new set of rules. There will be no pain, suffering, hunger, hate, war, jealousy or death. We will have perfect new bodies but the same identities and memories. We will keep our name, and our family will be the same one we have in this life. When our perfect home is ready, the dead will wake up and enter. The dead do not experience time the same as the living. They might have been dead or “sleeping” for thousands of years, but it would feel as if they never died, but instantly switched from this life to the next. All humans will receive this gift. There will be no exception.

All humans were born innocent and will forever remain innocent and blameless. Even the most evil men and women are completely without blame. They were evil for a reason. Sinners and saints, priests and prostitutes, believers and atheists, etc are all working together as one towards the same goal. We are helping to build our future home. Every action, whether good or bad, is necessary. There is no wrong, everything is right.

So how can we do bad deeds and remain good? The secret is that no human is in control of his or her actions. We think we have free will and are responsible for our actions, but we are not. Each of us is unwittingly steered towards acting the way we do so that we do what needs to be done. This may seem as if we are merely puppets on strings, but it is for our own benefit.

Our actions are controlled by something that knows us better than we know ourselves. It is the most mysterious entity in the universe, keeper of all mysteries and the sum of all knowledge. It has absolute authority, control and power. However, it is not a form of life. It has no body, is invisible and completely unaware of its own existence. It can best be described as a spirit and is similar to the spirit of man or Holy Ghost in the bible. It has a unique function but works towards the same goal as everything else. It is everywhere and functions as one in all and we are all as one in it. It is this entity that controls our actions and even our thinking, but we are not serving it, it serves us. It knows what needs to be done and use us to do it. It also knows how to keep us pure and uncorrupted while we are forced to do corrupted deeds. It is beneficial that we remain blind during this time so that our ignorance protects our innocence.

Now we are small in comparison with what we will become. Now we are seeds, but one day we will be mighty big trees. Now we are blind creatures of the night, but when the time is right we will see and become children of the light.
I think nothing is wrong and every one is innocent. I know that this sounds as if I speak in a foolish foreign tongue. I formed this theory after a dream I had that changed my life. I am an ordinary man and never talked or thought about religion before it. It was beautiful and made me feel special for a while and I was sure I needed to do something about it, but had no idea what I was supposed to do. When I talked to my friends about it they ridiculed me and I ended up unemployed and homeless. I stopped talking about it and never mentioned it for the last nineteen years. However, not a day went by that I did not think about it. I realized that I was not ready two decades ago, but think I might be ready now. That is why I am trying again, but this time I am approaching strangers on the internet.
Before you ridicule my theory, please keep an open mind (it will sound to good to be true), read 1 Corinthians chapters 1-16 and 2 Corinthians chapters 1-13 and see if you can tell why I wanted you to read it.

My theory

Everything in the universe is working together towards the same goal. Nothing can stop it from reaching this goal. Nothing is doing anything wrong and everything is exactly the way it should be. Everything that exists has a purpose and is accounted for and nothing is lost, forgotten or unnecessary. Different parts have different functions, but the same goal.

The goal is perfection.

Humans are the sons and daughters of the universe and everything exists for our benefit. Perfection is a gift to us and it will be defined according to our needs.

Our perfect destiny will not be part of this universe and will exist in a completely different realm. This universe is our place of birth but it is only temporary. Our eternal home will operate under a new set of rules. There will be no pain, suffering, hunger, hate, war, jealousy or death. We will have perfect new bodies but the same identities and memories. We will keep our name, and our family will be the same one we have in this life. When our perfect home is ready, the dead will wake up and enter. The dead do not experience time the same as the living. They might have been dead or “sleeping” for thousands of years, but it would feel as if they never died, but instantly switched from this life to the next. All humans will receive this gift. There will be no exception.

All humans were born innocent and will forever remain innocent and blameless. Even the most evil men and women are completely without blame. They were evil for a reason. Sinners and saints, priests and prostitutes, believers and atheists, etc are all working together as one towards the same goal. We are helping to build our future home. Every action, whether good or bad, is necessary. There is no wrong, everything is right.

So how can we do bad deeds and remain good? The secret is that no human is in control of his or her actions. We think we have free will and are responsible for our actions, but we are not. Each of us is unwittingly steered towards acting the way we do so that we do what needs to be done. This may seem as if we are merely puppets on strings, but it is for our own benefit.

Our actions are controlled by something that knows us better than we know ourselves. It is the most mysterious entity in the universe, keeper of all mysteries and the sum of all knowledge. It has absolute authority, control and power. However, it is not a form of life. It has no body, is invisible and completely unaware of its own existence. It can best be described as a spirit and is similar to the spirit of man or Holy Ghost in the bible. It has a unique function but works towards the same goal as everything else. It is everywhere and functions as one in all and we are all as one in it. It is this entity that controls our actions and even our thinking, but we are not serving it, it serves us. It knows what needs to be done and use us to do it. It also knows how to keep us pure and uncorrupted while we are forced to do corrupted deeds. It is beneficial that we remain blind during this time so that our ignorance protects our innocence.

Now we are small in comparison with what we will become. Now we are seeds, but one day we will be mighty big trees. Now we are blind creatures of the night, but when the time is right we will see and become children of the light.
 

Aiviu

Active Member
Our actions are controlled by something that knows us better than we know ourselves.
Then tell me why it can't control me in the way how i want it. If i am that important to be resurrected in this other realm why ignoring for what i want to be there? Even this control subconsciously let me seek it. But if this is possible - then tell me how can i'll be earsed from the main timeline/ hearts of other?
 
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