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My friendly views on Homosexuality

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Harvey Wallbanger
There is evidence that homosexuals brains do (at least) react differently from that which is considered the norm. Funny enough-this was an online article in USA Today:

WASHINGTON — Homosexuals' brains respond differently from those of straight men and women when exposed to sex hormones, but researchers now say the difference is less pronounced in lesbians than in gay men.
Lesbians' brains reacted somewhat, though not completely, like those of heterosexual men, a team of Swedish researchers said in Tuesday's edition of Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
A year ago, the same group reported findings for gay men that showed their brain response to hormones was similar to that of heterosexual women.
In both cases the findings add weight to the idea that homosexuality has a physical basis and is not learned behavior.
"It shows sexual orientation may very well have a different basis between men and women ... this is not just a mirror image situation," said Sandra Witelson, an expert on brain anatomy and sexual orientation at the Michael G. DeGroote School of Medicine at McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario.
"The important thing is to be open to the likely situation that there are biological factors that contribute to sexual orientation," added Witelson, who was not part of the research team.
The research team led by Ivanka Savic at the Stockholm Brain Institute had volunteers sniff chemicals derived from male and female sex hormones. These chemicals are thought to be pheromones — molecules known to trigger responses such as defense and sex in many animals.
Whether humans respond to pheromones has been debated, although in 2000 American researchers reported finding a gene that they believe directs a human pheromone receptor in the nose.
The same team reported last year on a comparison of the response of male homosexuals to heterosexual men and women. They found that the brains of gay men reacted more like those of women than of straight men.
The new study shows a similar, but weaker, relationship between the response of lesbians and straight men.
Heterosexual women found the male and female pheromones about equally pleasant, while straight men and lesbians liked the female pheromone more than the male one. Men and lesbians also found the male hormone more irritating than the female one, while straight women were more likely to be irritated by the female hormone than the male one.
All three groups rated the male hormone more familiar than the female one. Straight women found both hormones about equal in intensity, while lesbians and straight men found the male hormone more intense than the female one.
The brains of all three groups were scanned when sniffing male and female hormones and a set of four ordinary odors. Ordinary odors were processed in the brain circuits associated with smell in all the volunteers.
In heterosexual males the male hormone was processed in the scent area but the female hormone was processed in the hypothalamus, which is related to sexual stimulation. In straight women the sexual area of the brain responded to the male hormone while the female hormone was perceived by the scent area.
In lesbians, both male and female hormones were processed the same, in the basic odor processing circuits, Savic and her team reported.
Each of the three groups of subjects included 12 healthy, unmedicated, right-handed and HIV-negative individuals.
The research was funded by the Swedish Medical Research Council, Karolinska Institute and the Wallenberg Foundation.

View it as you will, but my question would be this to the poster of this: Do you also feel that having ADD or (say) schizophrenia should be viewed as a sin if these "thoughts" they cause are acted upon???

I have read some of you other posts and you say you prefer to call yourself Aetherian rather than Christian because of the way (I think it was 95%) of other Christians act. So what is it that Jesus preached to the masses? Was it a message of tolerance and love preached to all kinds? That sins are forgiven by him?

It seems to me you and everyone should not be ashamed to call yourselves what it is you feel you are. THAT IS THE SIN! If you are gay or Christian, be proud in that and make the understanding of that in others by YOUR actions. Fear not the misunderstandings and fears in others, but live by the light that was given unto you.

The kingdom of God belongs to those with "eyes as children", and a child cares not who it is that loves them.... only that they are loved. It is with intolerance, confusion, and fear from others that we become ashamed or ourselves.
 

Green Gaia

Veteran Member
Abram said:
I bet you lesbian porn is the most searched porn out of all of them.
Just that! It helped bring the business into a billion $ industry!

Lesbian porn (which is made for men) has nothing to do with homosexuality or lesbianism. It's two straight girls getting paid to have sex for the viewing pleasure of men. Disgusting.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Abram said:
I bet you lesbian porn is the most searched porn out of all of them.
Just that! It helped bring the business into a billion $ industry!

You might very well be right. Wouldn't that be ironic if lesbian porn was the most popular porn on the internet, given how prejudiced society is against lesbians in general?

I personally don't go for it, but that's just me. I see nothing wrong with it. It's just I'm not sexually attracted to women who aren't sexually attracted to me. So, I don't really understand the attraction of lesbian porn for hetero males.
 

Abram

Abraham
standing_alone said:
So we're good as long as we are profitable?
Not at all. I'm far from profitable, nor am I good. But you may as well take credit where credit is due!
 

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
Maize said:
It's two straight girls getting paid to have sex for the viewing pleasure of men.
Because you don't like it you conclude that all participants are straight? Don't go there ...
 

Jaymes

The cake is a lie
~Lord Roghen~ said:
Why am i persecuted fror my belief?
Tell me when you've been attacked or barred from something anyone else can have simply because you think it's wrong to have gay sex. Then I'll consider the cry of persecution valid.
 

standing_alone

Well-Known Member
Abram said:
Not at all. I'm far from profitable, nor am I good. But you may as well take credit where credit is due!

So I should be proud to be a lesbian because we are so profitable for the porn industry and that heterosexual males like to watch it to, er, relieve tension? :sarcastic
 

Abram

Abraham
Sunstone said:
You might very well be right. Wouldn't that be ironic if lesbian porn was the most popular porn on the internet, given how prejudiced society is against lesbians in general?

I personally don't go for it, but that's just me. I see nothing wrong with it. It's just I'm not sexually attracted to women who aren't sexually attracted to me. So, I don't really understand the attraction of lesbian porn for hetero males.
We're hetero males! The blowing wind in the right pair of slacks does it for us!
 

Green Gaia

Veteran Member
Jayhawker Soule said:
Because you don't like it you conclude that all participants are straight? Don't go there ...

You're right. I didn't word that very well.

My point was just because it's two women having sex in front of a camera, one shouldn't assume they are lesbians. So called, "lesbian porn" has nothing to do with lesbianism, especially since it's aimed towards straight men.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
standing_alone said:
So I should be proud to be a lesbian because we are so profitable for the porn industry and that heterosexual males like to watch it to, er, relieve tension? :sarcastic

You're not honored, Standing Alone?? You know, I just don't understand your psychology today. Everytime I see a hetero male porn star, my chest swells with pride at the thought of how "our kind" help the economy and folks like to watch us. But not you, eh? *ponders this mystery too, slowly*
 

Abram

Abraham
Maize said:

You're right. I didn't word that very well.

My point was just because it's two women having sex in front of a camera, one shouldn't assume they are lesbians. So called, "lesbian porn" has nothing to do with lesbianism, especially since it's aimed towards straight men.
Its still called lesbian porn. So in the mind of the one watching, their lesbians.
Its these guys that the very next day are quick to make a gay joke though. Very ironic
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Abram said:
We're hetero males! The blowing wind in the right pair of slacks does it for us!

LOL! It takes a gale force wind at my age, Abram, but I get your point. There are times I think testosterone is a curse. Not many times, but now and then.
 

Feathers in Hair

World's Tallest Hobbit
~Lord Roghen~ said:
Why am i persecuted fror my belief?

Your belief is not being persecuted. We have dozens of people here on RF that, for one reason or another, do not think homosexuality is 'okay'. You are, however, having your remarks justifiably called into question and the way you are making those remarks especially so. Please imagine if I compared heterosexuality with a mental illness.

I think the fact that you outnuber me 10 to 1 is enough without making me look bad

Nobody else is trying to make you look badly. While I'll have to go back and make sure that no personal insults were made against anyone, I have yet to see any remark made that was as negative as several of the posts that people are replying to.
 

standing_alone

Well-Known Member
Sunstone said:
You're not honored, Standing Alone?? You know, I just don't understand your psychology today.

I don't know why I shouldn't be honored. Perhaps it has something to do with the fact I'm suffering from the mental disorder of homosexuality.
 

mr.guy

crapsack
sunstone said:
So, I don't really understand the attraction of lesbian porn for hetero males.
I can; actually i can think of a couple reasons:
-the implied sexual desperation of straight women "reduced" to foreign experimentation for graspings of satisfaction.
-an obvious signal of a female "presenting" without other males around.
-the assumption that a man is ultimately "invited", or "missed".

edit: all in all, i gather the "conversion" fantasy plays in as well. Which is to say, real lesbians are hardly the selling point.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
standing_alone said:
I don't know why I shouldn't be honored. Perhaps it has something to do with the fact I'm suffering from the mental disorder of homosexuality.

When you finally get the money to come visit me in Colorado Springs, dear, I'll introduce you to my therapist and psychiatrist. I'm sure that working together they can cure that old homosexual bug ya got in just minutes. Then we'll go to lunch. Sound good?
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
mr.guy said:
I can; actually i can think of a couple reasons:
-the implied sexual desperation of straight women "reduced" to foreign experimentation for graspings of satisfaction.
-an obvious signal of a female "presenting" without other males around.
-the assumption that a man is ultimately "invited", or "missed".

edit: all in all, i gather the "conversion" fantasy plays in as well. Which is to say, real lesbians are hardly the selling point.

That's interesting, Mr. Guy. I hadn't considered those points. Thank you!
 

standing_alone

Well-Known Member
Sunstone said:
When you finally get the money to come visit me in Colorado Springs, dear, I'll introduce you to my therapist and psychiatrist. I'm sure that working together they can cure that old homosexual bug ya got in just minutes. Then we'll go to lunch. Sound good?

Sounds great! We can stop by Focus on the Family, too, right? :p
 
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