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My question is this?

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
If to what you say is right, Then why are those people in Venezuela fleeing their Socialism country ?

What about Germany that became a Socialism country during the time of Hitler if Socialism is to be so great. What Happened?
Go Figure?
I don't know if I would even acknowledge Venezuela as Socialistic.

It is a failed community, which is something entirely different.

One should take some care to properly define what is understood by the word.

Myself, I think the Scandinavians and current Germany qualify, while Venezuela and Nazi Germany do not.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Because it is a lousy Government.

In Europe, currently the following are socialist...

  1. Sweden
  2. Denmark
  3. Norway
  4. Iceland
  5. Netherlands
  6. Belgium
  7. Germany
  8. Finland
  9. Ireland

Ho so that's why, their economic is falling apart. Because of Socialism and people from those countries are leaving, to come to a Capitalist country. Thank you
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Because it is a lousy Government.

In Europe, currently the following are socialist...

  1. Sweden
  2. Denmark
  3. Norway
  4. Iceland
  5. Netherlands
  6. Belgium
  7. Germany
  8. Finland
  9. Ireland

Ho so that's why, their economic is falling apart. Because of Socialism and people from those countries are leaving, to come to a Capitalist country. Thank you
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
I don't know if I would even acknowledge Venezuela as Socialistic.

It is a failed community, which is something entirely different.

One should take some care to properly define what is understood by the word.

Myself, I think the Scandinavians and current Germany qualify, while Venezuela and Nazi Germany do not.

Venezuela was once a great import country, until the socialist took over, now it's fast becoming a total disaster.
 

Woberts

The Perfumed Seneschal
Ho so that's why people in socialist Venezuela are fleeing because they have a higher education.
Thats why Hitler wanted Germany to be socialist country, to exterminate the Jews because the Jews didn't fit in to Hitler's higher education of socialism.
Nazi Germany wasn't socialist. And even if they were, would that mean that socialism is automatically evil? Hitler was supposedly a vegetarian, does that mean that all vegetarians are evil?
Think a bit more critically, why don't ya.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Venezuela was once a great import country, until the socialist took over, now it's fast becoming a total disaster.
But on what grounds do you call Maduro and his predecessors socialists?

Why would they not be more accurately described as "populists" instead, or simply "incompetents"?

And don't you think that some measure of the blame should be acknowledged to be due to the lack of wisdom of the Venezuelan people as opposed to this elusive "Socialism"?
 

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
How many people do you know of, who haved left a capitalism country to go to a socialism country.

How many people have left a socialism country to go to a Capitalism country.

Why is that, if Socialism is to be so great,
Why are people leaving their Socialism country to go to a Capitalism country.
If Socialism is to be so great?

Liberal Democrats preach Socialism is great, but yet people in those Socialism countries are fleeing to go to a Capitalism country.
Why is that, If Socialism is so great?
US has social security, medicare, medicaid, compulsory schooling etc. Its a socialist country with a capitalist market system...like most of the West. Its social services are poor, but its socialist nonetheless.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
If to what you say is right, Then why are those people in Venezuela fleeing their Socialism country ?

What about Germany that became a Socialism country during the time of Hitler if Socialism is to be so great. What Happened?
Go Figure?
It has been discussed elsewhere that Germany was anything but a Socialist country despite its name.
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
Ho so that's why, their economic is falling apart. Because of Socialism.
Yes, your country is a paradise, with people sleeping on the streets that no one cares about, an explosion in anti-depressants, painkillers and drugs. I'd rather have our system than that, but I guess your opinion is that those people don't really matter at all.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Yeah but why didn't you say that at the first.
I’m not a mind reader; I have no idea what conclusions you’re going to jump to. If you want me to take your bad assumptions into account, you’ll have to tell me in advance.

But anyway back during the 80's Liberal Democrat President Jimmy Cater, Mess the Insurance all up and it's been in choas ever since.
Carter was the 70s. And I’m not going to play this game with you.

I posted out of the hope you were asking your questions honestly. I see now that this hope was misplaced.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
Ho so that's why people in socialist Venezuela are fleeing because they have a higher education.
Thats why Hitler wanted Germany to be socialist country, to exterminate the Jews because the Jews didn't fit in to Hitler's higher education of socialism.
What about the failed capitalist countries?

USA - The Great Depression; The Financial Crash of 2008. Read Jayne Mayer's Dark Money if you want to know how successful capitalism is.
India - already mentioned, still practicing the caste system.
Russia - dominated by an elite group of wealthy aristocrats.
Honduras, Somalia are both capitalist
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
And not France?

France always strikes me as pretty left in sentiment, at any rate. The revolution has certainly left its mark on society.
As I said earlier, in Europe we alternate between Conservative and Socialist governments, France currently has a more right wing government - although not extreme like the USA
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
Nazi Germany wasn't socialist. And even if they were, would that mean that socialism is automatically evil? Hitler was supposedly a vegetarian, does that mean that all vegetarians are evil?
Think a bit more critically, why don't ya.
You forgot about people with moustaches being evil
 

sealchan

Well-Known Member
Let's back up, seeing liberal Democrats, under Obama for 8 years, came up with the socialist Obamacare.
That why people such as your friend couldn't get the proper medical insurance that they need under the liberal Democrats socialist Obamacare insurance.
So socialist medical insurance is not all that it's crap up to be either.

This is why Obamacare is being done away with, for more affordable insurance for people such as your friend.

Millions lacked insurance, then Obamacare provided that insurance, then Trumpcare has pulled it apart...now magically people have less expensive healthcare. Amazing!
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
How many people do you know of, who haved left a capitalism country to go to a socialism country.

How many people have left a socialism country to go to a Capitalism country.

Why is that, if Socialism is to be so great,
Why are people leaving their Socialism country to go to a Capitalism country.
If Socialism is to be so great?

Liberal Democrats preach Socialism is great, but yet people in those Socialism countries are fleeing to go to a Capitalism country.
Why is that, If Socialism is so great?

People move for all sorts of reasons besides the political structure of the country. I have I have been in both, and both have strengths and weaknesses.
People move because of climate, job situations, marriage, sometimes just curiosity.
As long as both are democratic in nature, the people in the country are choosing how the country leans politically, so what's the problem?
 
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