Nadistuti Sukta

[ZoyaHayat]

Hiya Guys ...

I needed some help in knowing something in particular about the 'Nadistuti Sukta(the Rig Vedic Rivers)'...

The 'Nadistuti Sukta' mentions of the rivers and tributaries which form from the One same source-the Ganga(Ganges) river...

I wanted to know-did these rivers mentioned in the 'Nadistuti Sukta' shape form after the descent of Ganga river from Swarga Loka(Heaven) or not?...

And if not-then why are they praised in the Rig Veda?

xxx

 

[Satsangi]

Hiya Guys ...

I needed some help in knowing something in particular about the 'Nadistuti Sukta(the Rig Vedic Rivers)'...

The 'Nadistuti Sukta' mentions of the rivers and tributaries which form from the One same source-the Ganga(Ganges) river...

I wanted to know-did these rivers mentioned in the 'Nadistuti Sukta' shape form after the descent of Ganga river from Swarga Loka(Heaven) or not?...

And if not-then why are they praised in the Rig Veda?

xxx

Dear Zoya,

I am puzzled by your question. I went through the NadiSukta (10th Mandal, 75th Sukta) of the Rig Veda and it does not mention that the rivers mentioned in it arise from one source- Ganga. Can u quote where is this mentioned that Ganga is the one source of all the rivers mentioned in the NadiSukta?

Regards,

 

[Satsangi]

The following is the NadiStuti Sukta from the Griffith pdf file on the web

[10-075] HYMN LXXV. The Rivers.​

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1. THE singer, O ye Waters in Vivasvan's place, shall tell your grandeur forth that is beyond compare.The Rivers have come forward triply, seven and seven. Sindhu in might surpasses all the streams that flow.​

2 Varuna cut the channels for thy forward course, O Sindhu, when thou rannest on to win the race.Thou speedest o'er precipitous ridges of the earth, when thou art Lord and Leader of these moving floods.​

3 His roar is lifted up to heaven above the earth: he puts forth endless vigour with a flash of light. Like floods of rain that fall- in thunder from the cloud, so Sindhu rushes on bellowing like a bull.​

4 Like mothers to their calves, like milch kine with their milk, so, Sindhu, unto thee the roaring rivers run Thou leadest as a warrior king thine army's wings what time thou comest in the van of these swift streams.

5 Favour ye this my laud, O Ganga, Yamuna, O Sutudri, Parusni and Sarasvati: With Asikni, Vitasta, O Marudvrdha, O Arjikiya with Susoma hear my call.​

6 First with Trstama thou art eager to flow forth, with Rasa, and Susartu, and with Svetya here, With Kubha; and with these, Sindhu and Mehatnu, thou seekest in thy course Krumu and Gomati.​

7 Flashing and whitely-gleaming in her mightiness, she moves along her ample volumes through the realms, Most active of the active, Sindhu unrestrained, like to a dappled mare, beautiful, fair to see.​

8 Rich in good steeds is Sindhu, rich in cars and robes, rich in gold, nobly-fashioned, rich in ample wealth. Blest Silamavati and young Urnavati invest themselves with raiment rich in store of sweets.​

9 Sindhu hath yoked her car, light-rolling, drawn by steeds, and with that car shall she win booty in this fight.​

So have I praised its power, mighty and unrestrained, of independent glory, roaring as it runs.

Regards,

 

[dharma_seeker]

Friend Satsangi,

Griffith translations for vedas are weakest ones around. I never look at his translation and dont recommend anyone to look at them either.

 

[Satsangi]

Friend Satsangi,

Griffith translations for vedas are weakest ones around. I never look at his translation and dont recommend anyone to look at them either.

I agree, but these are the ones I found on the web; I have my own RigVeda text (Book) at home. My only purpose to post them here was to convey the "rough" content of the Sukta and say that it does not mention that all the rivers arise from Ganga.

Regards,

 

[ZoyaHayat]

Dear Zoya,

I am puzzled by your question. I went through the NadiSukta (10th Mandal, 75th Sukta) of the Rig Veda and it does not mention that the rivers mentioned in it arise from one source- Ganga. Can u quote where is this mentioned that Ganga is the one source of all the rivers mentioned in the NadiSukta?

Regards,

Dear Satsangi ...

Okay-it must be my mistake in reading about Ganga river being the source of all the rivers mentioned in the Rig Veda hymn ...

xxx

 

[Satsangi]

Dear Satsangi ...

Okay-it must be my mistake in reading about Ganga river being the source of all the rivers mentioned in the Rig Veda hymn ...

xxx

I do not know in detail about this (but can try to find out), but recently many people have found that the most important of the rivers of the Indian sub continent arise in the Kailash Mansarovar area.

Regards,

 

[ZoyaHayat]

I do not know in detail about this (but can try to find out), but recently many people have found that the most important of the rivers of the Indian sub continent arise in the Kailash Mansarovar area.

Regards,

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

Maybe it is Satsangi...

Does that mean these rivers mentioned in the Rig Veda hmyn existed before the Ganga river descended to the Earth?

xxx

 

[Satsangi]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

Maybe it is Satsangi...

Does that mean these rivers mentioned in the Rig Veda hmyn existed before the Ganga river descended to the Earth?

xxx

Well... good question. Here is my take . The Ganga is also mentioned in the RigVeda Hymn and hence it existed at the time of the hymn- that can be concluded. Now which river came first.... I do not have scriptural knowledge about it.

But, may I ask- how does it help to know?

Regards,

 

[ZoyaHayat]

Well... good question. Here is my take . The Ganga is also mentioned in the RigVeda Hymn and hence it existed at the time of the hymn- that can be concluded. Now which river came first.... I do not have scriptural knowledge about it.

But, may I ask- how does it help to know?

Regards,

I was just querying generally...

Thank you Satsangi for your contributions xxx

 

[Satsangi]

I was just querying generally...

Thank you Satsangi for your contributions xxx

Hi Zoya,

I did find that the celestial river Ganga is mentioned as the source of many rivers as mentiones in the Puranas and Mahabharata.

Regards,

 

[zenzero]

Friend ZoyaHayat

The 'Nadistuti Sukta' mentions of the rivers and tributaries which form from the One same source-the Ganga(Ganges) river...

I wanted to know-did these rivers mentioned in the 'Nadistuti Sukta' shape form after the descent of Ganga river from Swarga Loka(Heaven) or not?...

And if not-then why are they praised in the Rig Veda?

Though am not clear about what your quesry is like that ganga and its tributeries originate from one source or are you asking if all rivers in India flow from Ganges??.
However pasting two paragraphs from two websites on the subject.

India is probably the only country in the world where a river is bestowed the status of a goddess. In a country where Hindus follow practices strictly according to scriptures, ancient scripts say that Ganges came to the earth from heaven and started flowing. Since centuries, river Ganges has been regarded as most sacred and worshipped by people. In the 'Purana', a very high status has been bestowed to river Ganga. Puranas further say that Ganges is the holiest of all the shrines on earth. Apart from men, even mean creatures like insects achieve salvation on touching the waters of holy Ganges.

Rigveda worships the Ganga, among other holy rivers in its Nadisukta:

"im me gange, yamune saraswati shatudri stoma sachata parushnaya
asikanya marudadhe vitastyartikiye shrunhya sushomaya."

Love & rgds

 

[ZoyaHayat]

Hi Zoya,

I did find that the celestial river Ganga is mentioned as the source of many rivers as mentiones in the Puranas and Mahabharata.

Regards,

Great....

So,that means according to the Puranas and Mahabharata-Ganga river is the source of these all rivers and tributaries?

What of the rivers mentioned in the 'Nadistuti Sukta'?do those rivers mentioned flow from the one same source Ganga river?(this was one of my initial questions )

xxx

 

[ZoyaHayat]

Friend ZoyaHayat

Though am not clear about what your quesry is like that ganga and its tributeries originate from one source or are you asking if all rivers in India flow from Ganges??.
However pasting two paragraphs from two websites on the subject.





Love & rgds

Hiya Zenzero ...

Thank you for your response...

I am asking of the rivers mentioned in the 'Nadistuti Sukta'-that do those rivers mentioned in the 'Nadistuti Sukta' flow from the one same source Ganga river?...

And if they did flow from the Ganga river-then does that mean before Ganga river's descent to Earth these rivers(that exist now) did not exist before her descent?

xxx

 

[Satsangi]

Great....

So,that means according to the Puranas and Mahabharata-Ganga river is the source of these all rivers and tributaries?

What of the rivers mentioned in the 'Nadistuti Sukta'?do those rivers mentioned flow from the one same source Ganga river?(this was one of my initial questions )

xxx

The names may be similar among the rivers mentioned in the Vishnu Puran and Mahabharat and the NadiStuti in RigVeda. But, whether they are the same or not is another question. Also, whether they are describing in "celestial terms" or "earthly terms" is another question. Hence, it needs further reading.... As per my GUESS, the Vishnu Purana and Mahabharata describes them more in "celestial terms"... that is only a guess though and may change with further knowledge.

Regards,

 

[ZoyaHayat]

The names may be similar among the rivers mentioned in the Vishnu Puran and Mahabharat and the NadiStuti in RigVeda. But, whether they are the same or not is another question. Also, whether they are describing in "celestial terms" or "earthly terms" is another question. Hence, it needs further reading.... As per my GUESS, the Vishnu Purana and Mahabharata describes them more in "celestial terms"... that is only a guess though and may change with further knowledge.

Regards,

Thank you Satsangi for your involvement ...

xxx