Name Above All Names

[Fool]

Philipians 2:9 speaks of a name above all names. Can the immersion and contemplation, acts 2:38, of that name possibly change a person's world view? give one a more holistic view of self and other as self, exodus 3:14-15?


that we're all this same energy, simply having these illusory forms.

E = m(c*c)

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Philipians 2:9 speaks of a name above all names. Can the immersion and contemplation, acts 2:38, of that name possibly change a person's world view? give one a more holistic view of self and other as self, exodus 3:14-15?
that we're all this same energy, simply having these illusory forms.
E = m(c*c)

Baptism sure changed the world view of those 1st-century Jews mentioned at Acts of the Apostles 2:38-41.
Baptism sure changed the world view of those Samaritans mentioned at Acts of the Apostles 8:5,12-14
Baptism sure changed the world view of those gentiles mentioned at Acts of the Apostles 10 starting with Cornelius.
The God who resurrected Jesus gave Jesus a name above every name (Philippians 2:9) because there is No other name, according to Acts of the Apostles 4:12, under which to be saved ( delivered/rescued).

 

[Fool]

Baptism sure changed the world view of those 1st-century Jews mentioned at Acts of the Apostles 2:38-41.
Baptism sure changed the world view of those Samaritans mentioned at Acts of the Apostles 8:5,12-14
Baptism sure changed the world view of those gentiles mentioned at Acts of the Apostles 10 starting with Cornelius.
The God who resurrected Jesus gave Jesus a name above every name (Philippians 2:9) because there is No other name, according to Acts of the Apostles 4:12, under which to be saved ( delivered/rescued).

wash the inside of the cup, holy grail, and the outside will be clean too.

17 After he had left the crowd and entered the house, his disciples asked him about this parable. 18 “Are you so dull?” he asked. “Don’t you see that nothing that enters a person from the outside can defile them?19 For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.” In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.

20 He went on: “What comes out of a person is what defiles them. 21 For it is from within, out of a person’s heart, that evil thoughts come—sexual immorality, theft, murder, 22 adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. 23 All these evils come from inside and defile a person.”

 

[URAVIP2ME]

wash the inside of the cup, holy grail, and the outside will be clean too.
17 After he had left the crowd and entered the house, his disciples asked him about this parable. 18 “Are you so dull?” he asked. “Don’t you see that nothing that enters a person from the outside can defile them?19 For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.” In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.
20 He went on: “What comes out of a person is what defiles them. 21 For it is from within, out of a person’s heart, that evil thoughts come—sexual immorality, theft, murder, 22 adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. 23 All these evils come from inside and defile a person.”

Which ^ above ^ I find is in harmony with Matthew 12:34-37

 

[CogentPhilosopher]

Philipians 2:9 speaks of a name above all names. Can the immersion and contemplation, acts 2:38, of that name possibly change a person's world view? give one a more holistic view of self and other as self, exodus 3:14-15?


that we're all this same energy, simply having these illusory forms.

E = m(c*c)

And what do evidence do you have that supports this interpretation?

 

[Fool]

And what do evidence do you have that supports this interpretation?

the name isn't unique to christianity, or judaism.

ahmi yat ahmi from zoroasterianism
ahea asher ahea from chaldean
tat tvam asi from hinduism
ehyeh asher ehyeh from judaism
nuk pu nuk from egyptian book of the dead

et al

 

[CogentPhilosopher]

the name isn't unique to christianity, or judaism.

ahmi yat ahmi from zoroasterianism
ahea asher ahea from chaldean
tat tvam asi from hinduism
ehyeh asher ehyeh from judaism
nuk pu nuk from egyptian book of the dead

et al

Incorrect.

These do not mention these names to be a "name above all names".

Unfounded assertions are useless.

 

[Fool]

Incorrect.

These do not mention these names to be a "name above all names".

Unfounded assertions are useless.

if you had bothered to look at the google book on zoroastrianism, you would have seen that it is the most powerful of names for God in zoroastrianism. not that i claimed it to be the name of names in all belief systems listed. the name implies something of self intrinsic.

 

[CogentPhilosopher]

if you had bothered to look at the google book on zoroastrianism, you would have seen that it is the most powerful of names for God in zoroastrianism. not that i claimed it to be the name of names in all belief systems listed. the name implies something of self intrinsic.

Is considered by some to be the most powerful name in Zoroastrianism =/= the name of all names.

 

[Fool]

Is considered by some to be the most powerful name in Zoroastrianism =/= the name of all names.

epeolatry at the expense of an idea. no culture is going to refer to something using the exact verbiage. not even two native speakers would necessarily use the same words.

the book tells you that the name would influence other religions





above every(all) = most powerful

above all = most all, mostly, most importan

 

[CogentPhilosopher]

the book tells you that the name would influence other religions

Yet you have no proof that the judeo-christian deity influenced all of the other religions and it fails to address the much more likely answer that it is a simple idea that multiple humans came up with.

And you have yet to prove that the book in question is a valid source.

 

[Jedster]

the name isn't unique to christianity, or judaism.

ahmi yat ahmi from zoroasterianism
ahea asher ahea from chaldean
tat tvam asi from hinduism
ehyeh asher ehyeh from judaism
nuk pu nuk from egyptian book of the dead

et al

..and of course the source of everything is....

The Tao that can be spoken is not the eternal Tao
The name that can be named is not the eternal name
The nameless is the origin of Heaven and Earth
The named is the mother of myriad things

Thus, constantly free of desire
One observes its wonders
Constantly filled with desire
One observes its manifestations

These two emerge together but differ in name
The unity is said to be the mystery
Mystery of mysteries, the door to all wonders

 

[Fool]

Yet you have no proof that the judeo-christian deity influenced all of the other religions and it fails to address the much more likely answer that it is a simple idea that multiple humans came up with.

And you have yet to prove that the book in question is a valid source.

i'm not promoting christianity. i'm not promoting the bible, there are at least 6 recognized canons. i'm promoting an idea of inclusivism..

i'm not promoting any book over another; especially when i'm using other books and reading materials to advocate said idea.

zoroastrianism isn't judeo or christian and neither am I. that was the point, that the idea of being intrinsically a part of the Absolute isn't unique, nor new, but it seems to be something that many cultures incorporated into their belief systems.

those who look at God and spirituality as separate issues from self are very much like those who look at nature and climate as subjects apart from self, they aren't. it's all interdependent. one thing, no matter how seemingly small, can effect another.

chaos theory, or the butterfly effect

 

[Fool]

..and of course the source of everything is....

The Tao that can be spoken is not the eternal Tao
The name that can be named is not the eternal name
The nameless is the origin of Heaven and Earth
The named is the mother of myriad things

Thus, constantly free of desire
One observes its wonders
Constantly filled with desire
One observes its manifestations

These two emerge together but differ in name
The unity is said to be the mystery
Mystery of mysteries, the door to all wonders

thanks, been a long time since i read the tao te ching. i had forgotten that inference.

reminds me of the gnostic thunder perfect mind.


I was sent forth from the power,
and I have come to those who reflect upon me,
and I have been found among those who seek after me.
Look upon me, you who reflect upon me,
and you hearers, hear me.
You who are waiting for me, take me to yourselves.
And do not banish me from your sight.
And do not make your voice hate me, nor your hearing.
Do not be ignorant of me anywhere or any time. Be on your guard!
Do not be ignorant of me.

 

[savagewind]

Does no one really know what name means?

 

[savagewind]

The name means what is becoming. To know a name is to care about how it is becoming.
Jehovah means what is to become.

What is to become for everyone is called reality. If you care about reality, you should learn to care about the ONE that they call, "Jehovah". God's name is whatever God will become for you.

They say that the god is for god. I don't think that is right. God is for YOU.

We who.........well, I suppose that was a secret, or is a secret.

 

[savagewind]

That last sentence just means the thought disappeared from my brain matter.

 

[Fool]

The name means what is becoming. To know a name is to care about how it is becoming.
Jehovah means what is to become.

What is to become for everyone is called reality. If you care about reality, you should learn to care about the ONE that they call, "Jehovah". God's name is whatever God will become for you.

They say that the god is for god. I don't think that is right. God is for YOU.

We who.........well, I suppose that was a secret, or is a secret.

God is everything; which includes self.


3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

"nothing" can exist outside/without/apart from it.

I AM that i am, i. i have understood it as the Infinite I.

 

[savagewind]

God is everything; which includes self.


3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

"nothing" can exist outside/without/apart from it.

OK. Then, God's Name is what will become of us. Yes?

 

[Fool]

OK. Then, God's Name is what will become of us. Yes?

we are God, or All is God, the myriad forms are irrelevant because the form is mutable, or dynamic.

this is why jesus said that the Spirit quickeneth, or causes/gives, and the body(form) counts for nothing. the Spirit gives life to the form(body).