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NASA Finds New Form Of Life

Skwim

Veteran Member
"NASA has discovered a new life form—called GFAJ-1—that doesn't share the biological building blocks of anything currently living in planet Earth. It's capable of using arsenic to build its DNA, RNA, proteins, and cell membranes. This changes everything.

NASA is saying that this is "life as we do not know it". The reason is that all life on Earth is made of six components: Carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, phosphorus and sulfur. Every being, from the smallest amoeba to the largest whale, share the same life stream. Our DNA blocks are all the same.

In a surprising discovery, NASA scientist Felisa Wolfe Simon and her team have found a bacteria whose DNA is completely alien to what we know today. Instead of using phosphorus, the newly discovered microorganism—called GFAJ-1 and found in Mono Lake, California—uses the poisonous arsenic for its building blocks.

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The new life forms up close, at five micrometers.

According to Wolfe Simon, they knew that "some microbes can breathe arsenic, but what we've found is a microbe doing something new—building parts of itself out of arsenic." The implications of this discovery are enormous to our understanding of life itself and the possibility of finding organisms in other planets that don't have to be like planet Earth. Like NASA's Ed Weiler says: "The definition of life has just expanded."

Talking at the NASA conference, Wolfe Simon said that the important thing here is that this breaks our ideas on how life can be created and grow, pointing out that scientists will now be looking for new types of organisms and metabolism that not only uses arsenic, but other elements as well. She says that she's working on a few possibilities herself.

NASA's geobiologist Pamela Conrad thinks that the discovery is huge and "phenomenal," comparing it to the Star Trek episode in which the Enterprise crew finds Horta, a silicon-based alien life form that can't be detected with tricorders because it wasn't carbon-based. It's like saying that we may be looking for new life in the wrong places with the wrong methods. Indeed, NASA tweeted that this discovery "will change how we search for life elsewhere in the Universe."

I don't know about you but I've not been so excited about a bacteria since my STD tests came back clean. And that's without counting yesterday's announcement on the discovery of a massive number of red dwarf stars, which may harbor a trillion Earths, dramatically increasing our chances of finding extraterrestrial life."
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UPDATE: Please see the Pharyngula link in post #7
 
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Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
Pfft - I bet you can't show me a single instance of one of these arsenic eating bacteria evolving into an elephant. Darwinism loses again!
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Pfft - I bet you can't show me a single instance of one of these arsenic eating bacteria evolving into an elephant. Darwinism loses again!

I played poker with one of them last night, and he said, "you are right: They've got no plans to evolve into elephants." So take that, Darwin!
 

Penumbra

Veteran Member
Premium Member
When I read this today I found it to be pretty neat. Definitely some interesting and importance science.

In the article I read, it discussed some critical views as well, so I'd like to see the topic explored and repeated.
 

Nepenthe

Tu Stultus Es
When I read this today I found it to be pretty neat. Definitely some interesting and importance science.

In the article I read, it discussed some critical views as well, so I'd like to see the topic explored and repeated.
I waited to see if the fuss would die down and the actual paper's contents were read. That Gizmodo article in the OP is awful; the science blogs that are reporting back on the finding are rather underwhelmed. It may just be more bad science reporting and brings to mind the hysteria over Venters' synthetic life hysteria.

Anyway, Myers has weighed in with this being just another extremophile and there's not a whole lot of reason for all the fuss:
It's not an arsenic-based life form : Pharyngula

(Microbial use of arsenic has popped up previously: Microbial Arsenic Metabolism: New Twists on an Old Poison)
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
I waited to see if the fuss would die down and the actual paper's contents were read. That Gizmodo article in the OP is awful; the science blogs that are reporting back on the finding are rather underwhelmed. It may just be more bad science reporting and brings to mind the hysteria over Venters' synthetic life hysteria.

Anyway, Myers has weighed in with this being just another extremophile and there's not a whole lot of reason for all the fuss:
It's not an arsenic-based life form : Pharyngula

(Microbial use of arsenic has popped up previously: Microbial Arsenic Metabolism: New Twists on an Old Poison)
Nice find Nepenthe. Particularly the Pharyngula piece.
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
What the sam-hell is NASA doing looking around a poisonous lake?

It seems to me that a biologist should be making this announcement. :shrug:
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
What the sam-hell is NASA doing looking around a poisonous lake?

It seems to me that a biologist should be making this announcement. :shrug:
NASA does a lot of research in extreme Earth environments to give them a better idea what they might face elsewhere, so that they'll be better prepared.
There's a problem searching for new life. If we look only for what we expect, we could miss something really novel. So the more extremophiles we find,
the broader & better our search will be.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
NASA does a lot of research in extreme Earth environments to give them a better idea what they might face elsewhere, so that they'll be better prepared.
There's a problem searching for new life. If we look only for what we expect, we could miss something really novel. So the more extremophiles we find,
the broader & better our search will be.

hmmm.... maybe I watch too much X-files re-runs, but it seemed to me that NASA announced it to sensationalize the false "extra-terrestrial" nature of the bacteria.

This would be part of a plan that was launched 60 years ago, with the premise that Americans could accept the presence of extraterrestrial life on earth if the government carefully revealed little peices of evidence over a long period of time. We could be nearing the end of that time frame, if it began sometime after 1947. The release of British, French, and even some American UFO files in the past 6 years seems to point to a climax of revelation - maybe culminating in contact in 2012?


:D
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
hmmm.... maybe I watch too much X-files re-runs, but it seemed to me that NASA announced it to sensationalize the false "extra-terrestrial" nature of the bacteria.

This would be part of a plan that was launched 60 years ago, with the premise that Americans could accept the presence of extraterrestrial life on earth if the government carefully revealed little peices of evidence over a long period of time. We could be nearing the end of that time frame, if it began sometime after 1947. The release of British, French, and even some American UFO files in the past 6 years seems to point to a climax of revelation - maybe culminating in contact in 2012?:D
Well, OKaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.................................
 

Nepenthe

Tu Stultus Es
hmmm.... maybe I watch too much X-files re-runs, but it seemed to me that NASA announced it to sensationalize the false "extra-terrestrial" nature of the bacteria.

This would be part of a plan that was launched 60 years ago, with the premise that Americans could accept the presence of extraterrestrial life on earth if the government carefully revealed little peices of evidence over a long period of time. We could be nearing the end of that time frame, if it began sometime after 1947. The release of British, French, and even some American UFO files in the past 6 years seems to point to a climax of revelation - maybe culminating in contact in 2012?


:D
Angellous_evangellous is RF's Wikileaks. :eek:

I'd like to see a sci-fi story where some bacterial alien life form invades Earth- something like The Andromeda Strain. The planet panics as the bacteria eats everything in its path but is finally destroyed by the ultimate weapon:
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That'd be neat.
 
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