I'm one of them. You can't reason someone out of what they weren't reasoned into in the first place.I have seen former Nazis etc who very strongly advocate against such ideas
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I'm one of them. You can't reason someone out of what they weren't reasoned into in the first place.I have seen former Nazis etc who very strongly advocate against such ideas
So, why do you support it?As a Communist I can assure that we are complete *******s intent on destroying you and everything you care about. Communists are comparable to the nazis in terms of the means and ends of unlimited state power although there are significant differences in behaviour and motivation. arguably communists are worse because we do away with the "civil society" as a space independent of the government. We don't want your conformity- we want you to love big brother. Your thoughts are not your own- they belong to the party.
Of course, I am a communist so I could be lying to you for the good of the party. But How will you know?
That's your Stalinist nonsense and that's completely on you for holding those views. You'd have to kill me, too, by the way. Change your views since you're obviously ashamed of them (and should be, imo).
So, why do you support it?
I wish you'd stop calling yourself communist because I don't want be associated with your repugnant ideology.As a Communist I can assure that we are complete *******s intent on destroying you and everything you care about. Communists are comparable to the nazis in terms of the means and ends of unlimited state power although there are significant differences in behaviour and motivation. arguably communists are worse because we do away with the "civil society" as a space independent of the government. We don't want your conformity- we want you to love big brother. Your thoughts are not your own- they belong to the party.
Of course, I am a communist so I could be lying to you for the good of the party. But How will you know?
I am more interested in the humanitarian, genocidal aspect. Why would that be an appropriate approach? PS: None of this is an attack on you, just curiosities...because as far as I can tell it's true. I hate it but so far I don't think that's a good enough reason to dump it. hating the law of gravity, or the theory of evolution or the fact that world is round doesn't mean it ceases to be the case. These are things you have to live with. Communist theory is based on asserting "scientific" laws of history, so if they are as scientifically valid as all the laws of natural science you just have to find ways to adapt to them. It's not a "choice".
Either way, I wouldn't put up with all the **** I get unless I thought I had something of value that- even if people disagree with me and often for good reason- it's still worth sharing.
We've actually been talking recently about decommissioning the "political only" forums altogether. They've been causing enough challenges that some of our staff felt that needed to be on the table. But if we make any sort of change like that, we will definitely run it by the members first.
I just took a test and got this result:
What is your political persona?
Your result
Soviet Communist
Equality and loyalty to the socialist cause are some of your most important values. On the one hand, you think the collective should always be prioritized above the individual. On the other, you are the first to mobilize to protect entitlements. So which is it: “Ask not what your country can do for you” or “demand what your country can do for you”? In Soviet Russia, irrational argument choose you!
Quiz
I got, lol:I just took a test and got this result:
What is your political persona?
Your result
Soviet Communist
Equality and loyalty to the socialist cause are some of your most important values. On the one hand, you think the collective should always be prioritized above the individual. On the other, you are the first to mobilize to protect entitlements. So which is it: “Ask not what your country can do for you” or “demand what your country can do for you”? In Soviet Russia, irrational argument choose you!
Quiz
I am more interested in the humanitarian, genocidal aspect. Why would that be an appropriate approach? PS: None of this is an attack on you, just curiosities.
I think it depends, greatly. Is this a matter of "Christians finding Paganism evil"? In such an argument, positives can be shown. Definite positives.There are forums for beliefs I find evil.
I think its reasonable to say that RF now has quite a few outspoken Trump and Brexit supporters. This doesn't automatically make it "far-right" but there are similarities and patterns. So it struck me as odd that there isn't a subforum for it. I'm just curious whether there is actually demand for one. Its the numbers that counts.
Given that members have consistently expressed concerns over immigration, multi-culturalism, political correctness, cultural threats to western values such as Islam or cultural marxism/the left and feminism, etc, I thought I'd throw this idea out there to see if it sticks.
Left-wing nationalism does exist but its a bit of an abberation so in practice nationalism is often a solidly far right position.
Oh, no....I'm not falling for the trick of saying anything positive about Hitler.I think it depends, greatly. Is this a matter of "Christians finding Paganism evil"? In such an argument, positives can be shown. Definite positives.
What are the positives of Nazism?
Uhm... yes, yes it is. It is not up to an individual or a government state to determine when someone else gets to die. I don't understand how this is a serious question.Is murder wrong when we are all going to die anyway?
As a Communist I can assure that we are complete *******s intent on destroying you and everything you care about. Communists are comparable to the nazis in terms of the means and ends of unlimited state power although there are significant differences in behaviour and motivation. arguably communists are worse because we do away with the "civil society" as a space independent of the government. We don't want your conformity- we want you to love big brother. Your thoughts are not your own- they belong to the party.
Of course, I am a communist so I could be lying to you for the good of the party. But How will you know?
I think it depends, greatly. Is this a matter of "Christians finding Paganism evil"? In such an argument, positives can be shown. Definite positives.
What are the positives of Nazism?
You're braver than I, but, oh....are you in for it now!Nazi Germany was the first country in modern times to try to eliminate smoking as a cause of lung cancer.
Anti-tobacco movement in Nazi Germany - Wikipedia
It's been a long time since I read it, but the communist manifesto (iirc) does call for a violent and bloody revolution. Perhaps this is why Pol Pot saw fit to do what he did to an entire class.
See here: The Dictatorship of the Proletariat
Seriously- you really don't understand communism if you think we're all about love and peace. We are absolute Nazis if you give us the chance. Commies kill people out of ideology and thrill of power whilst believing their right.
Why else do you think I'm so nice and reasonable? It's me trying to find a way to live and let live because I know my beliefs require me to kill you all as enemies of the people...
...and that makes me feel sad.