Elaborated *self-organized* systems. The organization is due to the fact that certain structures minimize energy: for example, spheres are a natural result of the action of gravity for large objects.
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Nature is a planned system rather than a planner
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Elaborated *self-organized* systems. The organization is due to the fact that certain structures minimize energy: for example, spheres are a natural result of the action of gravity for large objects.
Subduction Zone
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Yes, held together by gravity. That is extremely strong evidence for the Flying Spaghetti Monster. The only religion that explains gravity.
Subduction Zone
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Or because they have been Touched by His Noodly Appendages:
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scott777
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Well, I suppose it is hard to imagine how nature created homosexuals, and all the homosexual activity among animals. I guess that one was God.
(No offense meant to homosexuals)
Isn't it equally hard to imagine how Nature created heterosexuals? How do you account for this obsessive drive to have sex at almost any price?Well, I suppose it is hard to imagine how nature created homosexuals, and all the homosexual activity among animals. I guess that one was God.
(No offense meant to homosexuals)
scott777
Member
Firstly, I don't believe people do 'at almost any price'. If, on occasion people are obsessive, it would be explained by inheriting sexual drive from ancestors, whose drive enabled the passing on of their genes. Whereas homosexuality among nature does not enable passing on of genes.
ecco
Veteran Member
Do you have one single shred of evidence? Oh yeah, I forgot. You got the Koran. Oh well, I guess settles that.
Sir Doom
Cooler than most of you
I'm astonished at astonishing things instead. For example, did you know the chicken was the result of selective breeding? Astonishing! If the chicken counts as nature, then it most certainly was designed by intelligence... Ours! The same is true for cattle! There used to be this other animal called an auroch and through selective breeding we split it into oxen and cattle. Astonishing evidence of intelligence designing nature. If those count as nature anyway... Then there are tiny little ****zu dogs also created by selective breeding from big old scruffy giant wolves. I do not however consider this to have been an intelligent idea. Thus, I am equally astonished at the stupidity involved in designing that piece of nature.
Their structures are easily derivable from the inherent propensities of matters and fields that constitute these stars, galaxies and planets. Thus their external structures are results of their own properties and interactions.
Well, of course. Individuals without a sexual drive would have died out generations ago. Genes are resolute in their determination to reproduce themselves.
As for "at any price," humans, especially young males, are famous for acting rashly in sexually competitive situations, and you can walk right up to two deer in rut and beat them over the head with a baseball bat, so determined is their focus.
Sexual drive makes animals, including hominins, crazy.
scott777
Member
Perhaps, but even going crazy would be useful for animals. Gorillas, for example, have to dominate and fend off competition.
FlyingTeaPot
Irrational Rationalist. Educated Fool.
And this intelligent creator is a product of?
Milton Platt
Well-Known Member
Present your evidence for the existence of the creator....not that this hasn't been tried before with endless failures.