Nature of God

[AllanV]

I'm pretty sure it's nothing to do with "God".

It is the nature of Jesus and this can not be comprehended in the mind with a self that is encumbered with personality traits that are established by life experience from birth and genetics.
The genetics need to be changed, the lineage exchanged and the self purified. God will energize and instead of broadcasting all the faults in a personality there will be Love.

 

[Riverwolf]

Mythology.

God is the study of myth?

 

[Riverwolf]

There definitely is a presence but this is too powerful and awesome for the human mind to quantify or explain. This is incomprehensible to the natural mind.

Oh, that's Cthulhu.

 

[AllanV]

Oh, that's Cthulhu.

Yeah, most need drugs but it can be done on the cheap.

 

[Riverwolf]

Yeah, most need drugs but it can be done on the cheap.

...wait, what?

 

[bnabernard]

Well if God is light then He existed before dark, for instance light was created after creation was in full swing. that being light from the sun, a great big fiery furnace lit after darkness was created.
But was darkness created or are our eyes only sympathetic to the light from the sun and regarding other light as dark
Fast forward and we find the temple of a new world needing no light other than the light of God.

Perhaps instead of drugs we need a hadron collider to create what was there before atoms formed and combined to create a sun

bernard (hug)

 

[outhouse]

Perhaps instead of drugs we need a hadron collider to create what was there before atoms formed and combined to create a sun

Or we could realize that light may have existed before the big bang.

Compacted basic elements are hot, heat is not dark in open spaces.

 

[Unification]

Okay. Since many people are familiar with the word God, I use that for convenience.

Anyway, in my signature, Shaef says that some Pacific cultures do not have a term for God because God is life itself. To me, God is not a Supreme Being. He is not a force. He is not a concept. He is not an ideal. Even more so, He is not a He. That's my view.

I understand many believe that God is a Creator, some believe He is the universe, and others believe He (or She?) is an personification of something (or a combination of deities) else.

Yet, do these beliefs have anything in common that would define the nature of God?

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God the Creator can't be God the universe at the same time. A Creator "creates" the universe and life rather than being it itself.

God can't be a Supreme Being because there is nothing outside of life but life itself.

God can't be a He, She, or It (a pronoun) because life has no gender; it is not a person. That is like saying the air you breathe, the heart that beats, the baby that is born, et cetera are people.

On that note, it couldn't be a combination of deities since the above can't be a person, how can it be more than one?
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Not everyone believes in a Creator, not all believe in a Supreme Being, not all believe that "God" is a person, and not all believe the term God defines a Spirit.

So what is God?

Aura of being, mind, life force.

 

[mojtaba]

Okay. Since many people are familiar with the word God, I use that for convenience.

Anyway, in my signature, Shaef says that some Pacific cultures do not have a term for God because God is life itself. To me, God is not a Supreme Being. He is not a force. He is not a concept. He is not an ideal. Even more so, He is not a He. That's my view.

I understand many believe that God is a Creator, some believe He is the universe, and others believe He (or She?) is an personification of something (or a combination of deities) else.

Yet, do these beliefs have anything in common that would define the nature of God?

---
God the Creator can't be God the universe at the same time. A Creator "creates" the universe and life rather than being it itself.

God can't be a Supreme Being because there is nothing outside of life but life itself.

God can't be a He, She, or It (a pronoun) because life has no gender; it is not a person. That is like saying the air you breathe, the heart that beats, the baby that is born, et cetera are people.

On that note, it couldn't be a combination of deities since the above can't be a person, how can it be more than one?
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Not everyone believes in a Creator, not all believe in a Supreme Being, not all believe that "God" is a person, and not all believe the term God defines a Spirit.

So what is God?

God is the essence itself.

Imam Ali( peace be upon Him ):
He is a Being, but not through phenomenon of coming into being. He exists but not from non-existence. He is with everything but not in physical nearness. He is different from everything but not in physical separation. He acts but without connotation of movements and instruments. He sees even when there is none to be looked at from among His creation. He is only One, such that there is none with whom He may keep company or whom He may miss in his absence.

 

[psychoslice]

God is the study of myth?

Yes I believe that to be true also, and there is nothing wrong with myth, that is if you can understand the myth.

 

[bud123]

Biblicaly god is the creator, his works are expressed through his creation. Regarding gods gender, he could categorize himself to have male like qualities. This is believed because man was created in gods image first and not the women. That is why he is seen to be more male in characteristic. That is not to say however that god is a male. The flesh of earthly things can be categorized eg male , female, vegetables, grains ect. but gods essence which is spirit?, can earthly characterization even be suitable to express his essence, as an aspect of the biblical god is that he is timeless, a concept we cannot grasp as time i ingrained in our biology? Basically my answer is, its a mystery. It is also a mystery with regards to how god separates himself from his creation, In hierarchical terms the creator is above the created however the same god is still omnipresent and in a form exists within creation itself as-well.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Aura of being, mind, life force.

Gee this thread brings back memories. I kinda gave up on figuring out why there are so many traits to one "life force." I know customs etc but without the traits "we" use to desribe the force, what is left as an accurate, unbias definitioj of the nature of "God".

 

[Unification]

Gee this thread brings back memories. I kinda gave up on figuring out why there are so many traits to one "life force." I know customs etc but without the traits "we" use to desribe the force, what is left as an accurate, unbias definitioj of the nature of "God".

The one and same "life force" that resides in every being that we give meaning to in mind. There are approximately 8 billion different minds, all being, yet the same one "life force" that animates each of the 8 billion minds and allows us to feel and experience.

Everything is energy, what we call "God" is energy, a vibration. When we talk about "God,"we are referring to that aspect of all that is creative intelligence. It is infinite intelligence, infinite consciousness, universal subconscious mind, infinite power. It is us as well as everything else.

We are the universe. Consciousness is. The only "God" is that which is in our minds, as nothing exists outside of it. It's all within us. All of the knowledge of the universe is locked up inside/within us. To know oneself.

The way of a higher and one/whole conscious mind is unconditional love, peace, bliss, equality, mercy, compassion, charity, wisdom, balance, knowledge, life, and an animal ego mind that has been slayed and overcome.

 

[Unification]

Yes I believe that to be true also, and there is nothing wrong with myth, that is if you can understand the myth.

Precisely!

The metaphysical interpretation rather than the outward, literal, historical, fundamental interpretation of the lower mind.

 

[Riverwolf]

Yes I believe that to be true also, and there is nothing wrong with myth, that is if you can understand the myth.

I was just teasing him for the answer given in context of the question. God may be a HEAVILY polysemic word, but I don't actually believe "study of myth" is one of the definitions.

These days, I often use "Lore" instead of "myth" or "mythology", largely to distance the concept from the negative connotations of the latter word. Not only is there nothing wrong with it, I believe it is the highest form of artistic expression, since it's the expression not just of an individual or small group of people, but of an entire cultural group over a large period of time. (So I am one of those who believes Superheroes to be the great modern US "myths/Lore", our equivalent to the Classical Myths for the pre-Christian Greeks and Romans).

When the Gods are involved, these stories from Lore can help illuminate their natures. Þunor (Þ/þ is pronounced with a hard 'th', as in, appropriately, "thunder") is protective and fiercely loyal, if a bit witless. Woden is cunning, a bit sinister, but ultimately a benefactor. Frigga/Freya (assuming the hypothesis of one original Goddess in the process of splitting into 2 during the late Viking age) is aggressive, nurturing, and maybe a bit cynical.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

The one and same "life force" that resides in every being that we give meaning to in mind. There are approximately 8 billion different minds, all being, yet the same one "life force" that animates each of the 8 billion minds and allows us to feel and experience.

Everything is energy, what we call "God" is energy, a vibration. When we talk about "God,"we are referring to that aspect of all that is creative intelligence. It is infinite intelligence, infinite consciousness, universal subconscious mind, infinite power. It is us as well as everything else.

We are the universe. Consciousness is. The only "God" is that which is in our minds, as nothing exists outside of it. It's all within us. All of the knowledge of the universe is locked up inside/within us. To know oneself.

The way of a higher and one/whole conscious mind is unconditional love, peace, bliss, equality, mercy, compassion, charity, wisdom, balance, knowledge, life, and an animal ego mind that has been slayed and overcome.

True. Thats another of many descriptions and traits to one life force. I mean, you have Reiki, Chi,Myo,Tao,Holy Spirit, Consciousness,Buddha,mind,energy, and the list goes on to more "human" words like love, peace, and what you described. A man's attempt to describe the unknown.

I feel the life force is "the essense behind prayer without words". Best I would describe the nature without describing it through the terms my faith uses.

 

[Unification]

True. Thats another of many descriptions and traits to one life force. I mean, you have Reiki, Chi,Myo,Tao,Holy Spirit, Consciousness,Buddha,mind,energy, and the list goes on to more "human" words like love, peace, and what you described. A man's attempt to describe the unknown.

I feel the life force is "the essense behind prayer without words". Best I would describe the nature without describing it through the terms my faith uses.

Yes, just semantics of words. Same meaning, different words. No need for division.

That would be despair, seeking what cannot be known. I can know all that I need to within myself.

When one asks, do you believe in "God?" I would say, yes I believed in the latent potential force within myself and now I know myself. I had faith there was a better side, a better way of living I wasn't so sure existed, and now I know and no faith or belief is required any longer. The unknown me became the known me. I am free, and no longer my own worst enemy.

 

[NulliuSINverba]

So what is God?

Evidently, God is:

1.) That which cannot be demonstrated to exist.
2.) That which cannot be rendered believable.
3.) That which no one can agree on.

Anyone who disagrees with #3 is cordially invited to think twice about their rebuttal before they wind up proving my point for me by disagreeing.

 

[Thief]

Okay. Since many people are familiar with the word God, I use that for convenience.

Anyway, in my signature, Shaef says that some Pacific cultures do not have a term for God because God is life itself. To me, God is not a Supreme Being. He is not a force. He is not a concept. He is not an ideal. Even more so, He is not a He. That's my view.

I understand many believe that God is a Creator, some believe He is the universe, and others believe He (or She?) is an personification of something (or a combination of deities) else.

Yet, do these beliefs have anything in common that would define the nature of God?

---
God the Creator can't be God the universe at the same time. A Creator "creates" the universe and life rather than being it itself.

God can't be a Supreme Being because there is nothing outside of life but life itself.

God can't be a He, She, or It (a pronoun) because life has no gender; it is not a person. That is like saying the air you breathe, the heart that beats, the baby that is born, et cetera are people.

On that note, it couldn't be a combination of deities since the above can't be a person, how can it be more than one?
--

Not everyone believes in a Creator, not all believe in a Supreme Being, not all believe that "God" is a person, and not all believe the term God defines a Spirit.

So what is God?

In the scheme of superlatives.....there is only ONE Almighty.
supreme being.
Someone must greater than all others.

That someone might have a domineering attitude...... a 'male' spirit.

I do not believe the creation formed before the Creator.

 

[Thief]

Evidently, God is:

1.) That which cannot be demonstrated to exist.
2.) That which cannot be rendered believable.
3.) That which no one can agree on.

Anyone who disagrees with #3 is cordially invited to think twice about their rebuttal before they wind up proving my point for me by disagreeing.

'when two or more are gathered in My Name.....I am with you.'
a famous quote.