Net Neutrality, good bye internet.

[Quetzal]

I think you mean pre 90s. There was no internet in the 80s

Sure there was! Just not what it is today.

 

[Revoltingest]

Sure there was! Just not what it is today.

True....if by "1980s" we mean late 1989.
Ref...
History of the Internet - Wikipedia

Tigers are the pedants of the jungle.

 

[Enoch07]

I think you mean pre 90s. There was no internet in the 80s

Technically it's been around since the 60's, but it was not accessible by most people. Around the late 80's/early 90's, it started being developed into the modern internet we recognize today.

 

[Satans_Serrated_Edge]

Technically it's been around since the 60's, but it was not accessible by most people. Around the late 80's/early 90's, it started being developed into the modern internet we recognize today.

Sure there was! Just not what it is today.

Are either of you even old enough to remember the 80s?

The world wide web didn't exist in any form before 1990 when arpanet got made public, before that we had dial in local BBS systems, and only Unix or w3.11 which only tech geeks could operate, of which there was very few.

The ''internet" wasn't for public consumption until 95/96 with the advent of win95.

 

[Quetzal]

Are either of you even old enough to remember the 80s?

The world wide web didn't exist in any form before 1990 when arpanet got made public, before that we had dial in local BBS systems, and only Unix or w3.11 which only tech geeks could operate, of which there was very few.

The ''internet" wasn't for public consumption until 95/96 with the advent of win95.

Well, yes, but your initial comment claimed there wasn't an internet at all before the 90s. You are incorrect.

 

[Satans_Serrated_Edge]

Well, yes, but your initial comment claimed there wasn't an internet at all before the 90s. You are incorrect.

There wasn't an internet before the 90s. The internet went live on August 6th 1991. This is a matter of public record.

 

[Quetzal]

There wasn't an internet before the 90s. The internet went live on August 6th 1991. This is a matter of public record.

I am not going to argue historical facts and dates when they are documented.

History of the Internet - Wikipedia

You are confusing the world wide web and the internet.

 

[Satans_Serrated_Edge]

I am not going to argue historical facts and dates when they are documented.

History of the Internet - Wikipedia

You are confusing the world wide web and the internet.

According to your link, arpanet(which was a private military tcp network) was decommissioned in 1990 and shortly after became the internet(again, August 6th 1991). You should probably check your own sources dude.

 

[Enoch07]

Are either of you even old enough to remember the 80s?

The world wide web didn't exist in any form before 1990 when arpanet got made public, before that we had dial in local BBS systems, and only Unix or w3.11 which only tech geeks could operate, of which there was very few.

The ''internet" wasn't for public consumption until 95/96 with the advent of win95.

Nice way to contradict yourself.

Go play semantics somewhere else.

 

[Satans_Serrated_Edge]

Nice way to contradict yourself.

Go play semantics somewhere else.

Nice platitude. Come with substance or go away.

Any contradiction you see is due to your lack of reading comprehension.

 

[Enoch07]

Nice platitude. Come with substance or go away.

Any contradiction you see is due to your lack of reading comprehension.

Whatever bra.

 

[Satans_Serrated_Edge]

Whatever bra.

So I'm contradicting myself by reciting recorded, indisputable recent history but you can say exactly where.

Got it.

 

[Enoch07]

So I'm contradicting myself by reciting recorded, indisputable recent history but you can say exactly where.

Got it.

You are the one disputing historical facts. As @Quetzal pointed out.

History of the Internet - Wikipedia

You can live in your make believe world if you want, but we will stick to reality.

 

[Satans_Serrated_Edge]

You are the one disputing historical facts. As @Quetzal pointed out.



You can live in your make believe world if you want, but we will stick to reality.

LOL you are hilarious. The reason that other dude didn't respond is because he realized he was wrong, just as you would if you bothered to do 5 minutes of research.

Here, let me get you started
Aug. 7, 1991: Ladies and Gentlemen, the World Wide Web

Again, there was no internet in the 80s.

 

[Enoch07]

LOL you are hilarious. The reason that other dude didn't respond is because he realized he was wrong, just as you would if you bothered to do 5 minutes of research.

Here, let me get you started
Aug. 7, 1991: Ladies and Gentlemen, the World Wide Web

Again, there was no internet in the 80s.

Then why did you say this?

before that we had dial in local BBS systems, and only Unix or w3.11 which only tech geeks could operate, of which there was very few.

Here is a timeline.
Internet history timeline
Early research and development:

• 1965: NPL network planning starts
• 1966: Merit Network founded
• 1966: ARPANET planning starts
• 1967: NPL network packet switching pilot experiment
• 1969: ARPANET carries its first packets
• 1970: Network Information Center (NIC)
• 1971: Tymnet packet-switched network
• 1972: Merit Network's packet-switched network operational
• 1972: Internet Assigned Numbers Authority(IANA) established
• 1973: CYCLADES network demonstrated
• 1974: Telenet packet-switched network
• 1976: X.25 protocol approved
• 1978: Minitel introduced
• 1979: Internet Activities Board (IAB)
• 1980: USENET news using UUCP
• 1980: Ethernet standard introduced
• 1981: BITNET established

Merging the networks and creating the Internet:

• 1981: Computer Science Network (CSNET)
• 1982: TCP/IP protocol suite formalized
• 1982: Simple Mail Transfer Protocol(SMTP)
• 1983: Domain Name System (DNS)
• 1983: MILNET split off from ARPANET
• 1985: First .COM domain name registered
• 1986: NSFNET with 56 kbit/s links
• 1986: Internet Engineering Task Force(IETF)
• 1987: UUNET founded
• 1988: NSFNET upgraded to 1.5 Mbit/s (T1)
• 1988: OSI Reference Model released
• 1988: Morris worm
• 1989: Border Gateway Protocol (BGP)
• 1989: PSINet founded, allows commercial traffic
• 1989: Federal Internet Exchanges (FIXes)
• 1990: GOSIP (without TCP/IP)
• 1990: ARPANET decommissioned
• 1990: Advanced Network and Services(ANS)
• 1990: UUNET/Alternet allows commercial traffic
• 1990: Archie search engine
• 1991: Wide area information server (WAIS)
• 1991: Gopher
• 1991: Commercial Internet eXchange (CIX)
• 1991: ANS CO+RE allows commercial traffic
• 1991: World Wide Web (WWW)
• 1992: NSFNET upgraded to 45 Mbit/s (T3)
• 1992: Internet Society (ISOC) established
• 1993: Classless Inter-Domain Routing(CIDR)
• 1993: InterNIC established
• 1993: AOL added USENET access
• 1993: Mosaic web browser released
• 1994: Full text web search engines
• 1994: North American Network Operators' Group (NANOG) established

Commercialization, privatization, broader access leads to the modern Internet:

• 1995: New Internet architecture with commercial ISPs connected at NAPs
• 1995: NSFNET decommissioned
• 1995: GOSIP updated to allow TCP/IP
• 1995: very high-speed Backbone Network Service (vBNS)
• 1995: IPv6 proposed
• 1996: AOL changes pricing model from hourly to monthly
• 1998: Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
• 1999: IEEE 802.11b wireless networking
• 1999: Internet2/Abilene Network
• 1999: vBNS+ allows broader access
• 2000: Dot-com bubble bursts
• 2001: New top-level domain names activated
• 2001: Code Red I, Code Red II, and Nimdaworms
• 2003: UN World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS) phase I

• 2003: National LambdaRail founded
• 2004: UN Working Group on Internet Governance (WGIG)
• 2005: UN WSIS phase II
• 2006: First meeting of the Internet Governance Forum
• 2010: First internationalized country code top-level domains registered
• 2012: ICANN begins accepting applications for new generic top-level domain names
• 2013: Montevideo Statement on the Future of Internet Cooperation
• 2014: NetMundial international Internet governance proposal
• 2016: ICANN contract with U.S. Dept. of Commerce ends, IANA oversight passes to the global Internet community on October 1st

The net just didn't poof into existence, it was developed over many years. Many key features were developed in the 80's as you can see above.

 

[Twilight Hue]

True....if by "1980s" we mean late 1989.
Ref...
History of the Internet - Wikipedia

Tigers are the pedants of the jungle.

God. I remember web tv!

 

[Satans_Serrated_Edge]

Then why did you say this?




Here is a timeline.
Internet history timeline
Early research and development:

• 1965: NPL network planning starts
• 1966: Merit Network founded
• 1966: ARPANET planning starts
• 1967: NPL network packet switching pilot experiment
• 1969: ARPANET carries its first packets
• 1970: Network Information Center (NIC)
• 1971: Tymnet packet-switched network
• 1972: Merit Network's packet-switched network operational
• 1972: Internet Assigned Numbers Authority(IANA) established
• 1973: CYCLADES network demonstrated
• 1974: Telenet packet-switched network
• 1976: X.25 protocol approved
• 1978: Minitel introduced
• 1979: Internet Activities Board (IAB)
• 1980: USENET news using UUCP
• 1980: Ethernet standard introduced
• 1981: BITNET established

Merging the networks and creating the Internet:

• 1981: Computer Science Network (CSNET)
• 1982: TCP/IP protocol suite formalized
• 1982: Simple Mail Transfer Protocol(SMTP)
• 1983: Domain Name System (DNS)
• 1983: MILNET split off from ARPANET
• 1985: First .COM domain name registered
• 1986: NSFNET with 56 kbit/s links
• 1986: Internet Engineering Task Force(IETF)
• 1987: UUNET founded
• 1988: NSFNET upgraded to 1.5 Mbit/s (T1)
• 1988: OSI Reference Model released
• 1988: Morris worm
• 1989: Border Gateway Protocol (BGP)
• 1989: PSINet founded, allows commercial traffic
• 1989: Federal Internet Exchanges (FIXes)
• 1990: GOSIP (without TCP/IP)
• 1990: ARPANET decommissioned
• 1990: Advanced Network and Services(ANS)
• 1990: UUNET/Alternet allows commercial traffic
• 1990: Archie search engine
• 1991: Wide area information server (WAIS)
• 1991: Gopher
• 1991: Commercial Internet eXchange (CIX)
• 1991: ANS CO+RE allows commercial traffic
• 1991: World Wide Web (WWW)
• 1992: NSFNET upgraded to 45 Mbit/s (T3)
• 1992: Internet Society (ISOC) established
• 1993: Classless Inter-Domain Routing(CIDR)
• 1993: InterNIC established
• 1993: AOL added USENET access
• 1993: Mosaic web browser released
• 1994: Full text web search engines
• 1994: North American Network Operators' Group (NANOG) established

Commercialization, privatization, broader access leads to the modern Internet:

• 1995: New Internet architecture with commercial ISPs connected at NAPs
• 1995: NSFNET decommissioned
• 1995: GOSIP updated to allow TCP/IP
• 1995: very high-speed Backbone Network Service (vBNS)
• 1995: IPv6 proposed
• 1996: AOL changes pricing model from hourly to monthly
• 1998: Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
• 1999: IEEE 802.11b wireless networking
• 1999: Internet2/Abilene Network
• 1999: vBNS+ allows broader access
• 2000: Dot-com bubble bursts
• 2001: New top-level domain names activated
• 2001: Code Red I, Code Red II, and Nimdaworms
• 2003: UN World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS) phase I

• 2003: National LambdaRail founded
• 2004: UN Working Group on Internet Governance (WGIG)
• 2005: UN WSIS phase II
• 2006: First meeting of the Internet Governance Forum
• 2010: First internationalized country code top-level domains registered
• 2012: ICANN begins accepting applications for new generic top-level domain names
• 2013: Montevideo Statement on the Future of Internet Cooperation
• 2014: NetMundial international Internet governance proposal
• 2016: ICANN contract with U.S. Dept. of Commerce ends, IANA oversight passes to the global Internet community on October 1st

The net just didn't poof into existence, it was developed over many years. Many key features were developed in the 80's as you can see above.

I'm not sure you understand the terminology here. A BBS isn't the internet, it's (was) a locally owned server you could call directly into with a modem.

Your list documents the history that lead to the internet, which went live in 1991 using arpanets infrastructure as a skeleton, which is all it was in the early 90s.

Yes, tcp/ip protocol(the language the net uses) existed before the 90s, yes computers could be networked even before that. No, the internet didn't exist before the 90s as arpanet was still a private military network.

 

[Quetzal]

The reason that other dude didn't respond is because he realized he was wrong, just as you would if you bothered to do 5 minutes of research.

If you argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. I decided I had better things to do.

 

[Curious George]

I'm not sure you understand the terminology here. A BBS isn't the internet, it's (was) a locally owned server you could call directly into with a modem.

Your list documents the history that lead to the internet, which went live in 1991 using arpanets infrastructure as a skeleton, which is all it was in the early 90s.

Yes, tcp/ip protocol(the language the net uses) existed before the 90s, yes computers could be networked even before that. No, the internet didn't exist before the 90s as arpanet was still a private military network.

Lol, while I find this conversation extremely funny, are you all possibly using different definitions of a "internet?"

 

[Satans_Serrated_Edge]

If you argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. I decided I had better things to do.

That is a very weak cop out, as I produced facts and references for everything I've said, and you have made only bald assertions. The one reference you provided didn't even support your claims(of a pre 90s internet).


You aren't very good at this game.