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Netanyahu To Swing Jewish Vote To Romney?

Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I saw that in the news too.
I'm with Obama on this one.
We might not have peace, but I hope for an outbreak of status quo.
 
MissAlice

MissAlice

Well-Known Member
Alceste

Alceste

Vagabond
Wirey said:
Neil Macdonald: Netanyahu's American campaign - World - CBC News

Interesting piece that essentially accuses Netanyahu of pressuring Obama into allowing a pre-emptive strike on Iranian nuclear facilities. To me, it seems like Obama is doing the right thing on this one.
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If he is trying to influence Jewish voters, he's got his work cut out for him. They're 70% pro-Obama and only 25% Romney, and a Haaretz poll found the candidates' stance on Israel issues has no significant impact on their decision.

Countdown to 2012 elections: New Jewish vote poll shows slight gain for Romney - Israel News | Haaretz Daily Newspaper

It seems Jewish voters care more about rights for women and homosexuals and sound economic policy at home than they do about starting another war in the middle east.
 
Alceste

Alceste

Vagabond
MissAlice said:
A good reason I'm voting for Obama in the elections. Not that it will make a huge difference but anything is better than a president who's itching for a war.
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You are doing the right thing. In his eagerness to win the Jewish vote, Romney has promised to take "the exact opposite" of Obama's approach to Iranian nuclear development. What's the opposite of not starting a war again?

I agree with Obama that "if Romney wants to start another war, he should just say so". That would settle the election at least.
 
Levite

Levite

Higher and Higher
For the record, I consider myself a Zionist and supporter of Israel, and I think Netanyahu is handling this wrong, and I will definitely vote for Obama. Even if I thought Romney was a stronger supporter of Israel, which I don't, I would still vote for Obama because of his being slightly less ruinous to poor people and the sick, elderly, and helpless than Romney would be. Thank God, Israel could handle enduring a slightly less than supportive American administration-- not that it will have to-- but poor and vulnerable people can't survive much more right-wing conservative government.
 
Caladan

Caladan

Agnostic Pantheist
Wirey said:
Neil Macdonald: Netanyahu's American campaign - World - CBC News

Interesting piece that essentially accuses Netanyahu of pressuring Obama into allowing a pre-emptive strike on Iranian nuclear facilities. To me, it seems like Obama is doing the right thing on this one.
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I doubt that Netanyahu actually expects to achieve this. I believe that he doesn't expect Obama's administration to go with a strike after the long focus on sanctions as a long term strategy. In addition I find it less realistic he expects a support from Obama on this issue when so many in the top Israeli intelligence and political community (not to mention the Israeli public) have explicitly voiced an opposition to a military strike. As the article mentioned, there is no consensus in Israel on a strike, let alone an international consensus.
 
Alceste

Alceste

Vagabond
Caladan said:
I doubt that Netanyahu actually expects to achieve this. I believe that he doesn't expect Obama's administration to go with a strike after the long focus on sanctions as a long term strategy. In addition I find it less realistic he expects a support from Obama on this issue when so many in the top Israeli intelligence and political community (not to mention the Israeli public) have explicitly voiced an opposition to a military strike. As the article mentioned, there is no consensus in Israel on a strike, let alone an international consensus.
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I'm ashamed to say it certainly looks like Canada is willing to agree to anything Bibi thinks is right and good. I feel dirty.
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Alceste said:
And yet you intend to vote for Romney, knowing he is far more likely start a war with Iran. Interesting. :sarcastic
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I only consider Romney, now that Gary Johnson is banned from MI.
A write-in might be possible.
One must balance a broad range of traits between the available candidates.
Both have their positives & negatives.
Moreover, I wouldn't say Romney is "far more likely" to start a war with Iran. Tis bad form to attribute more to me than I actually say.
 
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Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Caladan said:
I doubt that Netanyahu actually expects to achieve this. I believe that he doesn't expect Obama's administration to go with a strike after the long focus on sanctions as a long term strategy. In addition I find it less realistic he expects a support from Obama on this issue when so many in the top Israeli intelligence and political community (not to mention the Israeli public) have explicitly voiced an opposition to a military strike. As the article mentioned, there is no consensus in Israel on a strike, let alone an international consensus.
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A bit of good news.
 
MEMNOCK

MEMNOCK

Spiritual Tour Guide
Wirey said:
Neil Macdonald: Netanyahu's American campaign - World - CBC News

Interesting piece that essentially accuses Netanyahu of pressuring Obama into allowing a pre-emptive strike on Iranian nuclear facilities. To me, it seems like Obama is doing the right thing on this one.
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I agree. I don't think Obama should allow this country into being bullied by Israel to back their attacks. The prime minister of Israel doesn't even have the support of his military or advisers. We can't afford another war. Not financially or politically.
 
Alceste

Alceste

Vagabond
MEMNOCK said:
I agree. I don't think Obama should allow this country into being bullied by Israel to back their attacks. The prime minister of Israel doesn't even have the support of his military or advisers. We can't afford another war. Not financially or politically.
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Also, the other two didn't work out so well. Unlike Afghanistan and Iraq, Iran actually has some capacity for self-defense. It would be a bloodbath, and accomplish nothing.
 
Alceste

Alceste

Vagabond
Revoltingest said:
No. She didn't accurately represent my views.
(A common problem, eh?)
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All I can do is read and respond to what you write, my revolting friend. Sorry if that isn't working for you. :shrug:

Are you now saying you don't intend to hold your nose and vote for Willard, as you previously wrote? Surely you can see why some readers might be confused.
 
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