Netanyahu won!!!

[Juhurka]

What's an ''arab''? Do you mean the Mizrahi Jews? Why would you want to expel them from Israel?

Arabs of muslim faith. Arabs believe that Israel is arab land but they forget that half of Israels jewish population is of arab origin so what are they against? They are against israel being jewish. So to arabs the problem is that its specifically a Jewish state, thats why arab muslims must be expelled. The real racism is coming from the arab muslim world.

 

[FearGod]

Arabs of muslim faith. Arabs believe that Israel is arab land but they forget that half of Israels jewish population is of arab origin so what are they against? They are against israel being jewish. So to arabs the problem is that its specifically a Jewish state, thats why arab muslims must be expelled. The real racism is coming from the arab muslim world.

Isn't the thread about Obama kissing Cmike's tuches .

How that is related to Arabs and Palestinian ?

 

[Yerda]

Let's just face the facts, his opponents failed to convince the electorate that they are a reasonable alternative.

They must have been an utter shambles...

 

[dust1n]

No one advocated killing anyone, dont use words that are not there but if you have a better solution what is it? And dont say two states because we know how that went. Western world has one problem that it constantly steps on, the world is much different than westerners in their comfy societies imagine, if two people living in one house dont like each other you have two options, separate them or let them beat each other senseless. I propose separating them, you propose liberal fantasies. It is common sense that arabs are very nationalistic people who will never accept the rule of other nations, religions or societies in general but yet your idea of jews and arabs living side by side only brings more blood and yet you are calling me racist. Expelling them might not be very democratic but since when has democracy become a fix all tool?

I haven't propsed anything at all.

You stated you wanted to expel 1.6 million people for a country. I'm assuming the other option to anyone refusing would be forced death, considering you stated in the other thread that the only two options are to expel them or kill them.

Also never forget that arabs expelled a million jews who lived there long before arabs became a nation, is that fare? Now its time to return the favor.

That's some tough talk from a religion that is outnumbered 1:100 and is simply only existing still because of constant military aid from America.

 

[Kenny]

Kiss my tuches Obama

Congratulations for the win! He is the right man for the right time.

 

[Juhurka]

I haven't propsed anything at all.

You stated you wanted to expel 1.6 million people for a country. I'm assuming the other option to anyone refusing would be forced death, considering you stated in the other thread that the only two options are to expel them or kill them.




That's some tough talk from a religion that is outnumbered 1:100 and is simply only existing still because of constant military aid from America.

Yea Yea, keep talking, Jewish people won in 1948 on their own just like they did in 1967 with out any American help what so ever. Don't confuse your self. 6 day war was nothing short of a big miracle and G-D willing will be again if it comes to that.

 

[Kenny]

Yea Yea, keep talking, Jewish people won in 1948 on their own just like they did in 1967 with out any American help what so ever. Don't confuse your self. 6 day war was nothing short of a big miracle and G-D willing will be again if it comes to that.

It is your heritage and Abrahamic covenant.

 

[jeager106]

Interestingly "Arabs" prior to Muhammud, were either polythiest (pagan) or Arab Jews, or Arab Christians.
So can anyone define the difference between a "Jew" and an Arab, excluding religion of course?
I'm not addressing religious Jews by conversion to the religion. Exclude religion completely.
Someone(s) explain the difference between a Jew and an Arab?
I'm not at all being a smart #@@ but simply trying to understand.
Honestly I still don't understand one bit the current reasons for killing so many people that goes on in the Middle East
and spread to the rest of the world.

 

[Kenny]

Interestingly "Arabs" prior to Muhammud, were either polythiest (pagan) or Arab Jews, or Arab Christians.
So can anyone define the difference between a "Jew" and an Arab, excluding religion of course?
I'm not addressing religious Jews by conversion to the religion. Exclude religion completely.
Someone(s) explain the difference between a Jew and an Arab?
I'm not at all being a smart #@@ but simply trying to understand.
Honestly I still don't understand one bit the current reasons for killing so many people that goes on in the Middle East
and spread to the rest of the world.

My personal view that it stems all the way back when Abraham chose Isaac over Esau. Esau being the first born but not being recognized as the inheritor of the blessing of Abraham. Not that Abraham didn't bless him but that the coveted blessing was given to Isaac. That would be the secular viewpoint.

On a faith point, God said that Esau and his children (from which Mohammad comes from) would always be at odds with nations. Not just that, but that their own children will always be at each others neck.

As far as why they are at each others neck, it is because there are basically two lineages... one being the direct descendent of Mohammad and the other being a relative of Mohammad.--each one believes that they are the "chosen" leader at the expense of the lives of the others.

At least that is my understanding. (always room for correction)

 

[jeager106]

KenS et.al.
Yes I'm well aware of the dispute between what we know today as islam and Jews.
I'm just trying to understand the differences (if any) between pre-islam Arabs and Jews without
the now obvious differences in religions.
I've done a lot of reading about the pre-islam Arabs. It seems the Arabs have always been
killing one another over tribal differences and that goes on to this day.
Ergo why Sunni people still murder other Sunni people.
To me as a human with the same human attributes as any other human on the planet
such murdering of each other is beyond disgusting.
None of this has anything to do with the topic of this post.
Or does it have everything to do with this topic???????

 

[dust1n]

Yea Yea, keep talking, Jewish people won in 1948 on their own just like they did in 1967 with out any American help what so ever. Don't confuse your self. 6 day war was nothing short of a big miracle and G-D willing will be again if it comes to that.

Well, to be honest 1948 was a pretty easy fight, but I do yield to you that Israel was owning it in 1967, basically by itself. Doesn't change my opinion about not wanting any of my tax money to go to Israel displacing 1.6 million people Arab citizens from the borders.

 

[Debater Slayer]

1. Coming over to Israel for an extended stay, until you're familiar with the living conditions and cultural differences between Israel and our neighbors. This does NOT include, getting your information from the media.
2. How's your Hebrew?

1) I could say the same thing about you not living for an extended period of time in more than one Arab country. The difference is that I don't regard everything the media says as automatically correct or incorrect just because it is in the media. That depends on its source(s) and the evidence given that it's true or false.

2) I don't speak Hebrew, and neither do tens of millions of people who hold different opinions about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. That doesn't necessarily discredit our opinions.

This is all pretty weak logic though. It's like saying we can't comment on Taliban's crimes in Pakistan unless we know Urdu, or that we can't point out the totalitarianism of someone like Fidel Castro if we don't speak Spanish. There is a reason things happening in different places all over the world are no longer isolated to just the place they happened in. Media outlets are useful for knowing about events that take place elsewhere. The fact that there are unreliable sources in the media doesn't mean all of their sources are the same way.

 

[FearGod]

Yea Yea, keep talking, Jewish people won in 1948 on their own just like they did in 1967 with out any American help what so ever. Don't confuse your self. 6 day war was nothing short of a big miracle and G-D willing will be again if it comes to that.

Do you think Israel can survive without the help and the support of the USA,
Take my word for it, Netanyahu will be the first man to flee if the USA decided to leave the Middle East.

 

[FearGod]

Interestingly "Arabs" prior to Muhammud, were either polythiest (pagan) or Arab Jews, or Arab Christians.
So can anyone define the difference between a "Jew" and an Arab, excluding religion of course?
I'm not addressing religious Jews by conversion to the religion. Exclude religion completely.
Someone(s) explain the difference between a Jew and an Arab?
I'm not at all being a smart #@@ but simply trying to understand.
Honestly I still don't understand one bit the current reasons for killing so many people that goes on in the Middle East
and spread to the rest of the world.

All humans are an improved version of monkeys.

 

[Tumah]

1) I could say the same thing about you not living for an extended period of time in more than one Arab country. The difference is that I don't regard everything the media says as automatically correct or incorrect just because it is in the media. That depends on its source(s) and the evidence given that it's true or false.

2) I don't speak Hebrew, and neither do tens of millions of people who hold different opinions about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. That doesn't necessarily discredit our opinions.

This is all pretty weak logic though. It's like saying we can't comment on Taliban's crimes in Pakistan unless we know Urdu, or that we can't point out the totalitarianism of someone like Fidel Castro if we don't speak Spanish. There is a reason things happening in different places all over the world are no longer isolated to just the place they happened in. Media outlets are useful for knowing about events that take place elsewhere. The fact that there are unreliable sources in the media doesn't mean all of their sources are the same way.

I'm sorry, I wasn't clear. My point was, if you haven't been in Israel long enough to be able to converse with people on the street, then you haven't been in Israel long enough to experience what lead Israelis to make the choice they did. It's easy to condemn people from your armchair. It's much harder when the subject is experienced.
I would not, for instance, opine about South Korea's electing Kim Jon-un, because I recognize that the government there plays a very dictatorial role in people's lives. Perhaps they were not given an alternative. Perhaps they were not make knowledgeable of an alternative. Or perhaps they knew all that and still just really love the cuddly guy. Until I've experienced for myself what led them to their decision, I can't make a statement either way about their choice.

I am not saying that we can't comment altogether. But whenever discussing an issue that we have no personal knowledge about, it will be better to recognize that there may be information here that I don't have. Making definitive statements in this case is not the right way to go.

 

[Pastek]

On a faith point, God said that Esau and his children (from which Mohammad comes from) would always be at odds with nations. Not just that, but that their own children will always be at each others neck.

Arabs have nothing to do with Esau, we are related to Ismael. And Ismael was blessed too.

 

[Flankerl]

Do you think Israel can survive without the help and the support of the USA,
Take my word for it, Netanyahu will be the first man to flee if the USA decided to leave the Middle East.

Fun fact: You cant win against nukes.

But trust me I really believe that the Arabs would still try. Thats the kind of people they are. Running against the wall even if there are already thousands of people dead.

 

[Kenny]

Arabs have nothing to do with Esau, we are related to Ismael. And Ismael was blessed too.

Sorry, you are absolutely correct. I meant to say Ismael.

 

[FearGod]

Fun fact: You cant win against nukes.

But trust me I really believe that the Arabs would still try. Thats the kind of people they are. Running against the wall even if there are already thousands of people dead.

Did you expect Pakistan to have the nukes ?
Did you expect Iran to make their own warplanes plus what they call secret weapons which isn't known to the public ?
Are you sure that Iran doesn't have yet the nukes and even hizboallah ?

Jews weren't able to re-occupy a very weak state which is called Gaza, Netanyahu said we are going to occupy Gaza tonight and his soldiers fled from the war's field the 2nd night.

Hamas killed the Israeli soldiers and easily recorded it whereas Israel revenged by killing the kids, do you really think that you can beat Iran.

 

[FearGod]

Kiss my tuches Obama

Kiss my tuches Netanyahu.

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