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Netanyahu's Speech and Purim

CMike

Well-Known Member
Purim starts this Wednesday night.

In the story of Purim, the Persian King Achasverosh summons his wife Vasti to a party where she is too appear naked. Vashti refuses. She is banished. Don't feel too bad to her. The commentary says that normally she wouldn't have thought twice about it but she seemed to have a dermatological problem at the time.

Achasverosh then needs to pick a new wife so he summons all the hot virgin chicks.

He picks Esther, the cousin of Moderchai. Esther then becomes queen.

Mordechai, also foils a plot to assassinate King Achasverosh.

In the meantime Haman becomes the king's second on command.

Haman gets in a snit that Mordechai won't bow to him. He then gets the king to decree that all the Jews are to be killed. Also that Mordechai will be hung.

Esther then reveals to the king that she is Jewish, and pleas for the lives of her people.

The king agrees, Haman is hung, and Mordechai is made second in command.

That's the gist. There is a big missing that I didn't write.

For those that want to read the entire story...

Chapter 1 - Purim

It's a very interesting connection that Netanyahu is speaking a day before Purim to defend the existence of Israel. Once again, the threat is from Persia.

Iran has vowed to wipe out all the Jews.

This close connection should not be missed.

Netanyahu is doing what he can to fight for the very existence of Israel, similar to what Esther and Mordechai did thousands of years ago.
 

rosends

Well-Known Member
Purim starts this Wednesday night.

In the story of Purim, the Persian King Achasverosh summons his wife Vasti to a party where she is too appear naked. Vashti refuses. She is banished. Don't feel too bad to her. The commentary says that normally she wouldn't have thought twice about it but she seemed to have a dermatological problem at the time.

Achasverosh then needs to pick a new wife so he summons all the hot virgin chicks.

He picks Esther, the cousin of Moderchai. Esther then becomes queen.

Mordechai, also foils a plot to assassinate King Achasverosh.

In the meantime Haman becomes the king's second on command.

Haman gets in a snit that Mordechai won't bow to him. He then gets the king to decree that all the Jews are to be killed. Also that Mordechai will be hung.

Esther then reveals to the king that she is Jewish, and pleas for the lives of her people.

The king agrees, Haman is hung, and Mordechai is made second in command.

That's the gist. There is a big missing that I didn't write.

For those that want to read the entire story...

Chapter 1 - Purim

It's a very interesting connection that Netanyahu is speaking a day before Purim to defend the existence of Israel. Once again, the threat is from Persia.

Iran has vowed to wipe out all the Jews.

This close connection should not be missed.

Netanyahu is doing what he can to fight for the very existence of Israel, similar to what Esther and Mordechai did thousands of years ago.
He's speaking on taanis esther? Will he tie in Purim and he threat of destruction? The speech writes itself.
 

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
If I had so many corruption issues going on right now like Likud does I'd try to politicise everything I could too.

He's fully aware that Shas, UTJ and Otzma Yachad would also join a Centre - Left government if they'd agree to their terms.
So he's beating the "If you don't vote Likud, IS and Iran will eat your babies"-drum.

Israeli Elections are so horrible.
 

CMike

Well-Known Member
If I had so many corruption issues going on right now like Likud does I'd try to politicise everything I could too.

He's fully aware that Shas, UTJ and Otzma Yachad would also join a Centre - Left government if they'd agree to their terms.
So he's beating the "If you don't vote Likud, IS and Iran will eat your babies"-drum.

Israeli Elections are so horrible.
Yeah...who cares that Iran who supports Al Qaida, Hezbollah, and Hamas has nukes, and has consistently threatened to annihiliate Israel.

Obviously it's all about Netanyahu and politics

<sarcasm icon>
 

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
Yeah...who cares that Iran who supports Al Qaida, Hezbollah, and Hamas has nukes, and has consistently threatened to annihiliate Israel.

Obviously it's all about Netanyahu and politics

<sarcasm icon>

Well yeah at the moment its all about the elections and the recent corruption scandals Likud got going on.

Also Iran does not support AQ. The mere idea is ridiculous. Do you also believe that anything to the left of Likud would invite IS into Israel as a recent Likud video claimed?
 

Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
Well yeah at the moment its all about the elections and the recent corruption scandals Likud got going on.

Also Iran does not support AQ. The mere idea is ridiculous. Do you also believe that anything to the left of Likud would invite IS into Israel as a recent Likud video claimed?
ssshhh, stop it, you're making him uncomfortable with things like facts and reason and reality..
 

GoodbyeDave

Well-Known Member
Very Simple Explanation. Al Qaida are Sunni fanatics. They believe Shia Muslims are heretics who should be converted or killed — hence their bombings of Shia mosques. Iranians are Shia Muslims. Therefore Al Qaida hate the Iranians. Therefore the Iranians take a dim view of Al Qaida. What part of that don't people understand?

Incidentally, how does this qualify as a General Discussion? I wish CMike would keep his rants in the appropriate DIR.
 

CMike

Well-Known Member
Well yeah at the moment its all about the elections and the recent corruption scandals Likud got going on.

Also Iran does not support AQ. The mere idea is ridiculous. Do you also believe that anything to the left of Likud would invite IS into Israel as a recent Likud video claimed?
Says who? The New York Times?

It's great that you are such a big defender of Iran.

Al-Qaida link with Iran confirmed


WASHINGTON – In spite of its growing split with al-Qaida central in Pakistan led by Ayman al-Zawahiri, the more brutal Islamic state in Iraq and al-Sham, or ISIS, has agreed not to attack al-Qaida interests in Iran, according to ISIS spokesman Abu Muhammad al-Adnani.

The decision by ISIS, known for the savagery of its attacks, is to insure preservation of al-Qaida’s supply network inside Iran, Adnani said.

He pointed to a continuing relationship between Sunni al-Qaida and Shiite Iran.

“The ISIS has kept abiding by the advices and directives of the sheiks and figures of jihad,” Adnani said in a translated statement obtained by the Long War Journal. “This is why the ISIS has not attacked the Rawafid in Iran since its establishment.”


“Rawafid,” or rejectionists, is a term Sunni radicals use to describe Shiite Muslims.

“It has left the Rawafid safe in Iran, held back the outrage of its soldiers, despite its ability, then, to turn Iran into bloodbaths,” Adnani said. “It has kept its anger all these years and endured accusations of collaboration with its worst enemy, Iran, for refraining from targeting it, leaving the Rawafid there to live in safety, acting upon the orders of al-Qaida to safeguard its interests and supply lines in Iran.”

Adnani’s statement is a further confirmation of a relationship between al-Qaida and Iran that many analysts didn’t believe existed.

“Yes, ISIS has held back the outrage of its soldiers and its own anger for years to maintain the unity of the mujahideen in opinion and action,” Adnani said. “Let history record that Iran owes al-Qaida invaluably.”

The ISIS statement said that its policy of not attacking Shiite Muslims and Iranian interests extends “outside Iraq, in Iran and elsewhere.”

In a July 2011 statement, the U.S. government indicated it had evidence of a relationship between al-Qaida and the Iranian government – a “secret deal with al-Qaida allowing it to funnel funds and operatives through its territory.”

At the time, the government had designated six al-Qaida operatives who were based in Iran.

They included Mustafa Hamid, father-in-law of top al-Qaida operative Saif al-Adel; Saad bin Laden, a son of Osama bin Laden; Yasin al-Suri, said to have been the head of al-Qaida’s operations in Iran; and Ezedin Abdel Aziz Khalil, head of al-Qaida in Iran.

The July 2011 designation also stated that Iran was “a critical transit point for funding to support al-Qaida’s activities in Afghanistan and Pakistan.”


U.S. officials have told WND that Iran for years has helped finance separate Sunni groups, some of which later comprised the umbrella group al-Qaida, Arabic for “the base.”

Adnani’s admission of ISIS respecting al-Qaida networks in Iran comes as the more radical group and al-Qaida chief Zawahiri remain at odds over tactics and strategy in Syria and Iraq, although some analysts interpret Adnani’s statement as a reconciliation initiative.

At the same time as he exposed the ISIS agreement not to attack al-Qaida interests in Iran, Adnani continued to blame Zawahiri for the infighting between them.

In February, Zawahiri formally disavowed ISIS as a part of al-Qaida, siding with its affiliate in Syria, the Jabhat al-Nusra.

Zawahiri’s statement came about following months of effort on his part to keep ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi in line and not attempt to subsume al-Nusra under ISIS and claim it was al-Qaida’s representative in Syria.

The dispute between ISIS and al-Nusra revolves around a personal animosity between al-Nusra head Abu Muhammad al-Julani and Baghdadi

Julani, who at one time served as a lieutenant to Baghdadi, refused an order from Baghdadi to roll in al-Nusra under ISIS, reaffirming his allegiance to al-Qaida chief Zawahiri.

Before the dispute, ISIS was affiliated with al-Qaida, but some of its supporters claimed that the group had not sworn allegiance to the al-Qaida leadership.

Instead, it only pledged to support al-Qaida, although Zawahiri said that ISIS’ predecessors were loyal to Osama bin Laden and the al-Qaida leadership.

Analysts say that while ISIS is more regional, including Syria and Iraq for now, it could begin to spread out in its dispute with al-Qaida. Given ISIS’ known brutality, its threat to U.S. interests in addition to that of al-Qaida could increase as its influence spreads.

According to regional analysts, the rivalry between ISIS and al-Nusra has begun to extend itself from the battlefield in Syria to Saudi Arabia, which helps finance al-Nusra.

Even though the Saudi kingdom financially backs the al-Qaida-affiliated al-Nusra, Saudi authorities in recent days have made their first arrest of an ISIS cell of some 62 fighters, more than half of whom are Saudi nationals. ISIS still is considered to be an al-Qaida splinter group.

Because al-Nusra believes al-Qaida hasn’t pushed jihad as much as it should, there is concern their dispute could spread throughout the Middle East and into all of North Africa.


The decision by ISIS, known for the savagery of its attacks, is to insure preservation of al-Qaida’s supply network inside Iran, Adnani said.

He pointed to a continuing relationship between Sunni al-Qaida and Shiite Iran.

“The ISIS has kept abiding by the advices and directives of the sheiks and figures of jihad,” Adnani said in a translated statement obtained by the Long War Journal. “This is why the ISIS has not attacked the Rawafid in Iran since its establishment.”

“Rawafid,” or rejectionists, is a term Sunni radicals use to describe Shiite Muslims.

“It has left the Rawafid safe in Iran, held back the outrage of its soldiers, despite its ability, then, to turn Iran into bloodbaths,” Adnani said. “It has kept its anger all these years and endured accusations of collaboration with its worst enemy, Iran, for refraining from targeting it, leaving the Rawafid there to live in safety, acting upon the orders of al-Qaida to safeguard its interests and supply lines in Iran.”

Adnani’s statement is a further confirmation of a relationship between al-Qaida and Iran that many analysts didn’t believe existed.

“Yes, ISIS has held back the outrage of its soldiers and its own anger for years to maintain the unity of the mujahideen in opinion and action,” Adnani said. “Let history record that Iran owes al-Qaida invaluably.”

The ISIS statement said that its policy of not attacking Shiite Muslims and Iranian interests extends “outside Iraq, in Iran and elsewhere.”

In a July 2011 statement, the U.S. government indicated it had evidence of a relationship between al-Qaida and the Iranian government – a “secret deal with al-Qaida allowing it to funnel funds and operatives through its territory.”

At the time, the government had designated six al-Qaida operatives who were based in Iran.

They included Mustafa Hamid, father-in-law of top al-Qaida operative Saif al-Adel; Saad bin Laden, a son of Osama bin Laden; Yasin al-Suri, said to have been the head of al-Qaida’s operations in Iran; and Ezedin Abdel Aziz Khalil, head of al-Qaida in Iran.

The July 2011 designation also stated that Iran was “a critical transit point for funding to support al-Qaida’s activities in Afghanistan and Pakistan.”

U.S. officials have told WND that Iran for years has helped finance separate Sunni groups, some of which later comprised the umbrella group al-Qaida, Arabic for “the base.”

Adnani’s admission of ISIS respecting al-Qaida networks in Iran comes as the more radical group and al-Qaida chief Zawahiri remain at odds over tactics and strategy in Syria and Iraq, although some analysts interpret Adnani’s statement as a reconciliation initiative.

At the same time as he exposed the ISIS agreement not to attack al-Qaida interests in Iran, Adnani continued to blame Zawahiri for the infighting between them.

In February, Zawahiri formally disavowed ISIS as a part of al-Qaida, siding with its affiliate in Syria, the Jabhat al-Nusra.

Zawahiri’s statement came about following months of effort on his part to keep ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi in line and not attempt to subsume al-Nusra under ISIS and claim it was al-Qaida’s representative in Syria.

The dispute between ISIS and al-Nusra revolves around a personal animosity between al-Nusra head Abu Muhammad al-Julani and Baghdadi

Julani, who at one time served as a lieutenant to Baghdadi, refused an order from Baghdadi to roll in al-Nusra under ISIS, reaffirming his allegiance to al-Qaida chief Zawahiri.

Before the dispute, ISIS was affiliated with al-Qaida, but some of its supporters claimed that the group had not sworn allegiance to the al-Qaida leadership.

Instead, it only pledged to support al-Qaida, although Zawahiri said that ISIS’ predecessors were loyal to Osama bin Laden and the al-Qaida leadership.

Analysts say that while ISIS is more regional, including Syria and Iraq for now, it could begin to spread out in its dispute with al-Qaida. Given ISIS’ known brutality, its threat to U.S. interests in addition to that of al-Qaida could increase as its influence spreads.

According to regional analysts, the rivalry between ISIS and al-Nusra has begun to extend itself from the battlefield in Syria to Saudi Arabia, which helps finance al-Nusra.

Even though the Saudi kingdom financially backs the al-Qaida-affiliated al-Nusra, Saudi authorities in recent days have made their first arrest of an ISIS cell of some 62 fighters, more than half of whom are Saudi nationals. ISIS still is considered to be an al-Qaida splinter group.

Because al-Nusra believes al-Qaida hasn’t pushed jihad as much as it should, there is concern their dispute could spread throughout the Middle East and into all of North Africa.


Read more at Al-Qaida link with Iran confirmed
 

CMike

Well-Known Member
Here is another one.

Iran Supports Flow of Al-Qaeda Funds, Personnel: U.S. | Global Security Newswire | NTI



DAILY NEWS ON NUCLEAR, BIOLOGICAL & CHEMICAL WEAPONS, TERRORISM AND RELATED ISSUES


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Iran Supports Flow of Al-Qaeda Funds, Personnel: U.S.

Iran has been facilitating the movement of al-Qaeda funds and personnel to Pakistan and Afghanistan from the surrounding region under a deal with the terrorist organization, the U.S. Treasury Department said on Thursday (see GSN, May 14, 2010).

The department said it was blacklisting six individuals, among them a "prominent Iran-based al-Qaeda facilitator" named Ezedin Abdel Aziz Khalil, the New York Times reported. Citizens of the United States cannot do business with the sanctioned individuals, and U.S. officials said the targets would be unable to access any financial holdings within this country. Government sources said they realized, though, that such holdings do not exist in significant quantities.

“This network serves as the core pipeline through which al-Qaeda moves money, facilitators and operatives from across the Middle East to South Asia, including to Attiyah Abd al-Rahman, a key al-Qaeda leader based in Pakistan,” the department said in a press release.

Rahman is thought to have recently assumed the terrorist organization's second-highest post, immediately under Osama bin Laden's successor Ayman al-Zawahiri (see related GSN story, today). Rahman was another target of the new penalties.

“By exposing Iran’s secret deal with al-Qaeda allowing it to funnel funds and operatives through its territory, we are illuminating yet another aspect of Iran’s unmatched support for terrorism,” Treasury Undersecretary David Cohen said in released remarks.

The Treasury Department move was intended to shed light on “a key funding facilitation network for Al Qaeda and a key aspect for Iranian support for international terrorism,” a high-level Obama administration official told journalists by telephone.

“Our sense is this network is operating through Iranian territory with the knowledge and at least the acquiescence of Iranian authorities,” the insider said.

A number of high-level al-Qaeda members have been confined to residences in Iran after fleeing to the Middle Eastern nation to escape the U.S. military presence in Afghanistan. Still, the United States two years ago discovered Tehran had freed Saad bin Laden, son of the al-Qaeda chief killed in May. Intelligence insiders have since that time suggested Iran had acceded to improved accommodations for al-Qaeda agents in the nation.

Al-Qaeda's adoption of an extremist brand of Sunni Islam is a source of friction with the Shiite-dominated Iranian government, and intelligence officers suggested any collaboration between the sides has been restricted and guarded in nature, the Times reported (Helene Cooper, New York Times, July 28).

U.S. Senators Mark Kirk (R-Ill.), Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.) and Joseph Lieberman (I-Conn.) on Thursday denounced Iran's purported relationship with the terrorist group.

“The exposure today by the Treasury Department of what it characterizes as ‘Iran's secret deal with al-Qaeda, allowing it to funnel funds and operatives through its territory’ casts the threat posed by the Iranian regime in an alarming new light. For many years, some have insisted that religious divisions would prevent Shiite Iran and Sunni al-Qaeda from working together against us, but that ignored the fact that both want to destroy us. The fact that the Iranian regime has a secret ‘agreement’ with the terrorist group that is responsible for the 9/11 attacks and that continues to try to strike Americans at home and in the region reinforces why Iran is such a uniquely dangerous threat to our country and to the world," the lawmakers said in a statement.

“This revelation should also inject renewed impetus to our efforts to stop Teheran’s accelerating nuclear drive (see GSN, July 28). Any regime that makes secret deals with al-Qaeda cannot be allowed under any circumstances to possess a nuclear weapons capability," they said (U.S. Senator Joseph Lieberman release, July 28).
 

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
It's great that you are such a big defender of Iran.

Congratulations. You fused partisan US politics with the stupidity of the current smear campaign Likud is doing.

Because obviously I am a big defender of Iran. Why not call me a holocaust denier while you are at it? Or a Kapo?


Oh and nice Neocon source, as always.
 

CMike

Well-Known Member
Congratulations. You fused partisan US politics with the stupidity of the current smear campaign Likud is doing.

Because obviously I am a big defender of Iran. Why not call me a holocaust denier while you are at it? Or a Kapo?


Oh and nice Neocon source, as always.
Your side is fusing partisan politics.

For my side it's about the danger of Iran getting nukes.

For your side it's about witty little Obmumbler's fewings gating hawt.

It's not a white house, it's a junior high school, where it's all about punishing people they don't like. So childish.
 

CMike

Well-Known Member
What the state department said about Iran.


State Department: Iran Supports Al Qaeda, Taliban | The Weekly Standard

State Department: Iran Supports Al Qaeda, Taliban

6:20 PM, JUL 31, 2012 • BY THOMAS JOSCELYN




The State Department released its annual Country Reports on Terrorism on Tuesday. Once again, the U.S. government has deemed Iran the world’s leading state sponsor of terrorism. The Iranian regime’s sponsorship of terrorism includes troubling relationships with al Qaeda (“AQ”) and the Taliban.






“In 2011,” the State Department’s report reads, “Iran remained unwilling to bring to justice senior AQ members it continued to detain, and refused to publicly identify those senior members in its custody.” Similar language was included in previous State Department reports. But that is not all there is to the Iran-AQ relationship.

Iran “also allowed AQ members to operate a core facilitation pipeline through Iranian territory, enabling AQ to carry funds and move facilitators and operatives to South Asia and elsewhere.”


During a briefing with the press, Ambassador Daniel Benjamin, the State Department’s coordinator for counterterrorism, was asked what the U.S. government is doing to counteract Iran’s sponsorship of terrorism. Benjamin said that the Obama administration is “deeply concerned about Iran’s activities on its own through the” Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps – Qods Force (IRGC-QF), which is the Iranian regime’s principal terrorist-supporting arm. Benjamin also highlighted the work Iran does “together with Hezbollah” to “pursue destabilizing activities around the globe.” Iran does not only work with Hezbollah terrorists, however.

“I think that it’s important to note that we’ve seen quite a number of different designations in the last year,” Benjamin explained. “We have seen a number of al Qaeda activists in Iran who have been designated.”
 

CMike

Well-Known Member
Congratulations. You fused partisan US politics with the stupidity of the current smear campaign Likud is doing.

Because obviously I am a big defender of Iran. Why not call me a holocaust denier while you are at it? Or a Kapo?


Oh and nice Neocon source, as always.
Yanno...a Holocaust preventor is far more important than someone whom speaks about a holocaust denier.
 

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
Your side is fusing partisan politics.

For my side it's about the danger of Iran getting nukes.

For your side it's about witty little Obmumbler's fewings gating hawt.

It's not a white house, it's a junior high school, where it's all about punishing people they don't like. So childish.

My side? Obama?

I am not even a US citizen nor do I care about American Conservatives and American slightly more Conservatives.


But why am I even writing this? After all, all you are reading is "DEATH TO AMERICA, HAIL IRAN".
 
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