Audie
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What did you offer?
I meant, btw, having a kitchen God and
bribing same. Not bribing mine.
But proceed as you will.
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I meant, btw, having a kitchen God and
bribing same. Not bribing mine.
But proceed as you will.
What can a God do anyway except make you feel better about stuff?
If some new age belief makes you feel better, I don't see how that's any different.
Audie
Veteran Member
That's not how k- God operates.
The Kitchen God is supposed to protect house and family right?
What does this God actually do besides make you feel better protected?
Audie
Veteran Member
The jerk reports on me, just before new year.
Sort of like a bad Santa.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
You are quite right. Very few people go directly to heaven. Almost everyone goes first to purgatory and spend time there for purification and then onward to heaven. However, the time in heaven is not permanent. After a period in heaven, they reincarnate on Earth.
But those new-age books are correct in a way: almost everyone gets to spend some time in heaven before they reincarnate on Earth. So, most people experience heaven between lifetimes.
Banach-Tarski Paradox
*Banned*
Part of me wants to say that it would be a half-truth if life expectancy was around 14 years.
My reasoning is as follows.
When a child 7 years or younger dies, the body is prepared differently than adults, and the child becomes an angelito and goes directly to heaven.
Los Funerales del Angelitos is one of the most important aspects of Catholicism.
Here’s a dramatization.
Dramatización Arrullo
Arrullos
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Audie
Veteran Member
Sure makes it impossible to get rid of the fragile-paper Bible
It is 'all right' according to Jesus' recorded words that the Bible is: religious truth - John 17:17
Thus, one will be able to enjoy cups of coffee forever
I find in the Bible a requirement for Heaven (Luke 22:28-30) includes one making a dedication to God and baptism
Also, all angels were created before humankind
No people were created to become angels no matter what the age
Heaven is for those called as 'saints or holy ones' - Daniel 7:18
As far as minor children goes parents are responsible - 1st Corinthians 7:14
Dead children can have a future resurrection - Acts 24:15 - Not to heavenly life but to live forever on Earth
To become part of the humble meek people who will inherit, Not Heaven, but inherit the Earth - Matt. 5:5
Interesting wording ' true part that is in God's image ' because the 'true part' is Not physical but spiritual qualities.
God "is" love, God has justice, God has wisdom, God has mercy etc. so we are capable of developing God's righteous qualities or attributes to varying degrees.
So, as Adam had the opportunity to display those fine qualities, so do we.
Adam deliberately failed, but that does not mean we have to fail because we can use our free-will choices to do what's right.
I find Jesus also had No thoughts about 'afterlife' because 'afterlife' means: being more alive after death than before death
I suppose people want immortality because they don't want to be dead
Mortal Adam was created as a mortal and could only continue to live if he obeyed the law of Genesis 2:17
Also, there was No post-mortem life for Adam, No double jeopardy in death just going back to the ground - Gen. 3:19
Since we can't resurrect oneself or another then we need someone who can resurrect us - Revelation 1:18
Jesus enters the picture that there 'will be' (future tense) a resurrection - John 6:40,44; Acts 24:15
Jesus was teaching two (2) hopes:
One resurrection to Heaven for saints or holy ones - Daniel 7:18
Another resurrection for the meek to inherit (Not Heaven) but inherit the Earth - Matt. 5:5 from Psalms 37:9-11; 22:26
An earthly resurrection to be restored back to live life on Earth as originally offered to Adam before his downfall
I find the Bible teaches we all go to ' the same place' at death just as dead Jesus did - Acts 2:27 - the grave.The impression I get from near-death experiences (of others) is that everyone (of them) found themselves in a similar situation - watching their body, moving around, seeing a person, seeing a light or river or tunnel, in other words a place that can be traveled to or traveled along or traveled through.
However, there were significant slight differences between those who had died accidentally or naturally as opposed to those who had attempted suicide.
From those accounts, I came to believe we all go to "the same place" but our conditions there are different somehow, I don't know how.
Religions with which I am most familiar teach that good people go to one place and bad people to another place, good and bad being defined by the respective religion's texts and leaders. If that were true, I would think there are very many places because of the very, very wide range of goodness and badness that people practice.
I finally figured out that most people die. However, approximately 8 billion have never died! So maybe some never will.Therefore, death is even more common than birth, as more have died in utero and in atmospherea combined, than have been born. The commonality of death makes me think that what happens after death is also common to us all.
At death righteous Jesus went to the temporary stone-cold grave for the sleeping unconscious dead.
Jesus and the OT both teach 'sleep' in death - Psalms 3:13; 6:5; 115:17; Isaiah 38:18; Ecclesiastes 9:5; John 11:11-14
'Sleep in death' until Resurrection Day (Acts 24:15) meaning Jesus' coming Millennium-Long Day governing over Earth for a thousand years.
Like mortal Adam most people will have the opportunity to live forever on Earth, everlasting life on Earth.
Only some people are called to heavenly life to govern over Earth with Jesus - Rev. 20:6; 2:10; 5:9-10; Daniel 7:18
Most can become part of the humble meek who will inherit the Earth as promised at Matt. 5:5 from Psalms 37:9-11; 22:26
Absolutely, there are people who don't go to Heaven but they can have an earthly resurrection
Only those considered as 'saints or holy ones' are called to heaven - Daniel 7:18; Rev. 20:6; 2:10; 5:9-10
Acts 24:15 talks about future resurrection for both the 'righteous and unrighteous' ( KJV says just and unjust )
( As far as the 'wicked' they will be 'destroyed forever' - Psalms 92:7; 104:35; 145:20; Proverbs 2:21-22 )
ALL the resurrections Jesus performed were healthy physical resurrections restoring dead people to life on Earth
Jesus was giving us a preview, a coming attraction, of what he will be doing during his 1000 yr. reign over Earth
- 1st Corinthians 15:24-26; Isaiah 25:8
I don't understand what is so attactive in believing such dogma. It seems to me an interferance to living.
☆Dreamwind☆
Active Member
Ah... I see. I've heard a little honey might help with that.
I believe what is said in the Bible. And on basis of it, not all go to heaven.
Or don't you know that the unrighteous will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don't be deceived. Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor male prostitutes, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor slanderers, nor extortioners, will inherit the Kingdom of God.
1 Cor. 6:9-10
But when Jesus saw it, he was moved with indignation, and said to them, "Allow the little children to come to me! Don't forbid them, for the Kingdom of God belongs to such as these. Most assuredly I tell you, whoever will not receive the Kingdom of God like a little child, he will in no way enter into it."
Mark 10:14-15
and said, "Most assuredly I tell you, unless you turn, and become as little children, you will in no way enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.
Matt. 18:3
There is actually no original bible in existence so your post is a bit moot.
While printing presses exist and christians want a bible to prove their christianity then printing companies will prosper.