New Australian Vaccination Policy

[JayJayDee]

Some people (myself being one cannot be vaccinated against certain things. I cannot be vaccinated against hepatitis. So idiots with their anti-government mindset are harmful to me. To be honest, the selfishness is sickening and I strongly hope anti-vaxxers endure years of sickness for their stupidity.

What do you actually know about the Hepatitis you contracted? You do not need to be vaccinated against something for which you already have immunity. If you've had Hep B, you already have antibodies for it.

A “surface antibody“ is formed in response to the hepatitis B virus. Your body can make this antibody if you have been vaccinated, or if you have recovered from a hepatitis B infection. If this test is positive, then your immune system has successfully developed a protective anti- body against the hepatitis B virus. This will provide long-term protection against future hepatitis B infection. Someone who is surface antibody positive is not infected, and cannot pass the virus on to others.

I can't say much about the hospital where you were born, but in the US, Hepatitis B mainly infects intravenous drug users, homosexuals, prostitutes and promiscuous heterosexuals. The disease is transmitted by blood, through sex or dirty needles. How could a newborn baby possibly get Hepatitis B if the mother was screened and tested negative, as many women are? It is almost impossible. Unless a newborn child is having unprotected sex or sharing needles with an infected junkie, it is extremely unlikely to get the Hepatitis B. So then why are most U.S. babies inoculated at birth by their hospital or pediatrician with the Hepatitis B vaccine? That is a question every parent should ask before getting this vaccination. Are they thinking that all these babies will grow up to be drug addicts or prostitutes? Seriously, you need to educate yourself about some things instead of swallowing the propaganda put out by the drug companies through government agencies.

It's not a violation. A bodily violation is someone like me getting sick because you refuse to get vaccinated.

Who told you that you were at risk? If you've had Hep A or B, you have natural immunity.

Any agency forcing a foreign substance into your body is a violation...like rape.

They've done enough research your illogical fear is just that.

We can all do our own research and we need to examine both sides of this issue very carefully. Huge amounts of money are involved here....so the question to ask is...who has the most to gain or lose if vaccinations are exposed as dangerous? What do the vax opposers have to gain by exposing its dangers? What do the vax proponents have to gain by it being made mandatory for babies? Do the math.

There is an element of evil in this world that most people cannot even imagine. Nothing is as it seems.[/quote]

 

[SomeRandom]

We can all do our own research and we need to examine both sides of this issue very carefully

Doing one's own research is a part of our natural curiosity. Not something to be condemned to be sure. However, doing some Googling and reading some books/websites doesn't suddenly make your research better or above the standards of actual scientific research. It's the equivalent of someone reading a How To in order to build a house. They could maybe get away with it if they had some talent or expertise in building to begin with. But there's no way they could reach the standards of law, health and safety and building requirements of their country just by doing some research. Which is why we pay sparkies, plumbers and qualified builders to build our houses for us.

What do the vax opposers have to gain by exposing its dangers?

I don't know. What do anti gravity deniers have to gain? Just because there's no monetary gain in a position doesn't mean it's automatically a "safe" or true position to hold.

What do the vax proponents have to gain by it being made mandatory for babies? Do the math.

Depends? In countries which run on Universal Health Care models vaccines are usually technically a loss to the Government. The supposed monetary gain to the rest is the equivalent of finding some loose change in your couch. Hardly worth going to the trouble of even organizing some sort of conspiracy let alone gathering up Governments that actually have to spend their budget on them to join in. They'd probably make more on sales of Asprin/Panadol.

Also what do gravity proponents have to gain? More money for their funding perhaps. Just because someone stands to make some money due to their position doesn't automatically make said position nefarious.

Any agency forcing a foreign substance into your body is a violation...like rape.

Who's forcing anyone to take vaccines? You might not get as much money or have to find a place to home school your kid. This isn't a law that says you absolutely have to get a shot. And please try to refrain from making comparisons (however slight) to something like rape. It's a cheapening affect for victims of actual rape. I don't know, assault may be a closer comparison. But then you might cheapen assault for actual victims of assault. So.........

 

[gnomon]

Yea, there is nothing like a good old fight, I think most of us here secretly like fighting, its good, it stimulates the mind.

It does...doesn't it. I have too many personal issues going on. Normally I would love to hash it out but .....

 

[darkendless]

What do you actually know about the Hepatitis you contracted? You do not need to be vaccinated against something for which you already have immunity. If you've had Hep B, you already have antibodies for it.

Without an overshare, lets just say I have a blood test every 6 months which shows that I have a continual susceptibility for the virus

A “surface antibody“ is formed in response to the hepatitis B virus. Your body can make this antibody if you have been vaccinated, or if you have recovered from a hepatitis B infection. If this test is positive, then your immune system has successfully developed a protective anti- body against the hepatitis B virus. This will provide long-term protection against future hepatitis B infection. Someone who is surface antibody positive is not infected, and cannot pass the virus on to others.

You know nothing John Snow

I can't say much about the hospital where you were born, but in the US, Hepatitis B mainly infects intravenous drug users, homosexuals, prostitutes and promiscuous heterosexuals. The disease is transmitted by blood, through sex or dirty needles. How could a newborn baby possibly get Hepatitis B if the mother was screened and tested negative, as many women are? It is almost impossible. Unless a newborn child is having unprotected sex or sharing needles with an infected junkie, it is extremely unlikely to get the Hepatitis B. So then why are most U.S. babies inoculated at birth by their hospital or pediatrician with the Hepatitis B vaccine? That is a question every parent should ask before getting this vaccination. Are they thinking that all these babies will grow up to be drug addicts or prostitutes? Seriously, you need to educate yourself about some things instead of swallowing the propaganda put out by the drug companies through government agencies.

So much suspicion with absolutely no foundation.

Who told you that you were at risk? If you've had Hep A or B, you have natural immunity.

I get a blood test 6 monthly showing dangerous susceptibility.

Any agency forcing a foreign substance into your body is a violation...like rape.

The two are not relatable. Your association is frankly disgusting and I implore you to apologise.

We can all do our own research and we need to examine both sides of this issue very carefully. Huge amounts of money are involved here....so the question to ask is...who has the most to gain or lose if vaccinations are exposed as dangerous? What do the vax opposers have to gain by exposing its dangers? What do the vax proponents have to gain by it being made mandatory for babies? Do the math.

This is ironic given that you accuse me of bowing to propaganda.

You know there are rules and regulations that ethically dictate how medicines and vaccines are made and distributed right? You realise your tinfoil anti-establishment propaganda is hilarious right?

There is an element of evil in this world that most people cannot even imagine. Nothing is as it seems.

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Then there are people like you who find evil where it doesn't exist.

 

[Flankerl]

You know nothing John Snow

Jon Snow.

 

[leibowde84]

This is a remarkably insensitive post.

I can understand his sentiment. The stupidity of those that don't vaccinate their kids is infuriating.