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technomage
Finding my own way
Some of the less "crystal-crunchy" variations of Wicca work pretty well with science.
CynthiaCypher
Well-Known Member
Raëlism! They love science...especially cloning.
technomage
Finding my own way
Yeah, but that whole UFO thing ... :areyoucra
Some versions of Satanism, Luciferianism, Setianism and Thelema.
technomage
Finding my own way
Yup. And I would include some (not all) variations of ToS.
CynthiaCypher
Well-Known Member
But what is a religion without some quirkiness?
technomage
Finding my own way
Some versions of Wicca reject "magic" as dealing more with superstition and out-dated cultural beliefs. If practiced at all, magic is defined as a ritual form of cognitive behavioral therapy.
Most forms of LHP are atheist or deist, and are quite science friendly.
technomage
Finding my own way
Hmmm ... I include most forms of magic as "non-science-friendly." Those that use magic in the sense of ritualized psychology or religious ritual are generally OK, but Tarot, astrology, and "grey magic" are ... questionable. At least, by the mainstream definition of science.
technomage
Finding my own way
Quirky is dancing naked in the woods. The UFO folks go well beyond that.
I think the old ones like Hinduism is completely compatible with science.
I'd say the vast majority of Neopaganisms overall have no issue with the sciences, not just Wicca. There is some occasional pseudoscience that trickles in from New Age cross-pollination, but for the most part, no issues.
Really, any religion that doesn't interpret their mythology literally has no issues with science.
It is not new, but it definitely fits the other qualification: The religion of nature, the religion of living, the religion which the churches are outdoors and the dogma is that there in front of you. It is not so much a religion as a walk of life, the most pure and natural walk of life to be exact; and that is Life.
Chaotes generally view magick as a psychological tool.
This thread so far leads me to believe it is not a matter of the religion itself as much as of how one relates to it.
The examples offered surprise the heck out of me, but then again, I can't claim to understand their deals except perhaps for Hinduism. This is a rare thread where I agree with George-Ananda over most anyone else.
I suppose that means that I truly have a hard time even wondering what being a LHPer, a Thelemite or a Wiccan would be like.
Another (not quite alternate) possibility is that I have yet to be sold on why attempting to have a religion compatible with science is a good idea. Or maybe it is just not a goal worth worrying about.
The examples offered surprise the heck out of me, but then again, I can't claim to understand their deals except perhaps for Hinduism. This is a rare thread where I agree with George-Ananda over most anyone else.
I suppose that means that I truly have a hard time even wondering what being a LHPer, a Thelemite or a Wiccan would be like.
Another (not quite alternate) possibility is that I have yet to be sold on why attempting to have a religion compatible with science is a good idea. Or maybe it is just not a goal worth worrying about.
Ingledsva
HEATHEN ALASKAN
Quirky is dancing naked in the woods. The UFO folks go well beyond that.
HAY! I've danced and played naked in the woods, and I've seen a flying saucer. LOL
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dyanaprajna2011
Dharmapala
I think religion should agree with science to some extent, moreso than just not disagreeing with them. But as Luis pointed out, it's not exactly in religion's interest to completely agree with science. One of the goals of religion is transcendence, and this basically includes an ideal that science, at least at the present moment, simply cannot explain. If religion was to completely agree with science, it would lose this aspect.
With that being said, I think some eastern religions work well within this framework, especially some forms of Buddhism (primarily Theravada and Zen), some forms of Hinduism (particularly Advaita), and philosophical Taoism. I'm sure that there are interpretations of other religions that fit well here, like liberal Christianity, but I'm a bit less familiar with these.
With that being said, I think some eastern religions work well within this framework, especially some forms of Buddhism (primarily Theravada and Zen), some forms of Hinduism (particularly Advaita), and philosophical Taoism. I'm sure that there are interpretations of other religions that fit well here, like liberal Christianity, but I'm a bit less familiar with these.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
Unless a religion is somehow just a relabeling of natural phenomena, most of them seem to be predicated on tbe fundamental assumption that there is something "beyond" or "outside" what is understandable or measurable. In this sense,no religions are compatible with science, as they make claims about something that isn't observable or testable in a scientific way.
Of course, it's popular among new agey or mystical traditions to attempt to reconcile them with science by adopting sciencey concepts, primarily through misguided and vague connections to modern scientific concepts. Quantum theory being one of the most abused ones.
Of course, it's popular among new agey or mystical traditions to attempt to reconcile them with science by adopting sciencey concepts, primarily through misguided and vague connections to modern scientific concepts. Quantum theory being one of the most abused ones.