I think it's like a mapping term. We can't in a sense locate in a cartesian framework without some term. We could start using latitude longitude numbers but it's identical and not less subjective.
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New evidence of Americans at least 16,000 years ago
- Thread starter shunyadragon
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Actually they have found tool making ancestors in China 2.1 million years old. These are similar ancestors that extend from West Africa across Eurasia to China. Also evidence of Homo Habilis primitive tool making at ~2.4 million years ago in Africa.
The evidence clearly demonstrates a progressive sophistication of tool making as humans evolved from our ancestors.
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Phantasman
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Agreed. I don't see the OT as the truth either.
Phantasman
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Millions? And all that time no one could figure out how to write a book.
Audie
Veteran Member
I said "millions of rabbits".
Withal, that was a silly and shallow response you
gave.
Can you give a little more thought than that?
Literal truth is the problem, and biased interpretation to justify an agenda. Putting the OT in the context of the time, and find inspiration in the text is the way to go.
Phantasman
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Not really. As I said, the theories of how long ago man came along interests me very little over where he is going.
Audie
Veteran Member
The lack of thought was you didnt even take time to notice
the subject was "rabbits" / the potential for popoulation
growth v what actually happens-which was in response
to your ill considered ideas of human population growth.
Instead you came up with an irrelevant quip.
But-
If you've no knowledge or interest, then why talk about it?
As for where - going, that is anyone's guess, and when
a prediction gets something right, it is only because
there were so many guesses, one happened to hit it.
Idle speculation does not amuse me, but to each his own.
Milton Platt
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Date of human migration to America moved back to at least 16,000
From:https://www.sciencenews.org/article...edium=email&utm_campaign=latest-newsletter-v2
Texas toolmakers add to the debate over who the first Americans were
Unearthed spearpoints and other stone tools go back at least 16,000 years
BY
BRUCE BOWER
2:10PM, JULY 11, 2018
AMERICAN MADE Human-modified stones excavated in central Texas date to more than 16,000 years ago. Finds include a spearpoint (far right) unlike any others previously unearthed at ancient American sites.
N. VELCHOFF/THE GAULT SCHOOL OF ARCHAEOLOGICAL RESEARCH ©
People inhabited what’s now central Texas several thousand years before hunters from North America’s ancient Clovis culture showed up, researchers say.
Excavations at the Gault site, about 64 kilometers north of Austin, produced a range of stone artifacts that date to between around 16,700 and 21,700 years ago, reports a team led by archaeologist Thomas Williams of Texas State University in San Marcos. An analysis of 184 of those finds identified 11 spearpoints unlike any others that have been found at ancient American sites, the scientists conclude July 11 in Science Advances.
Researchers have long argued about whether people reached North America before the rise of Clovis culture 13,000 years ago. Evidence from the Gault site joins other recent reports of humans venturing deep into North America far earlier (SN: 6/11/16, p. 8), which would take Clovis people out of the running for the title of first New World settlers.
Williams’ group estimated the age of the Gault pre-Clovis discoveries with a method that calculates the time since artifact-containing sediment has been exposed to sunlight.
Previous work at the Gault site uncovered Clovis spearpoints and other implements from roughly 13,000 years ago, as well as tools and other artifacts made by groups dating to as recently as a few thousand years ago. Some of the newly described stone tools at Gault, such as small, rectangular cutting implements, display similarities to Clovis tools, the investigators say. Overall, though, the earlier artifacts belong to a toolmaking tradition separate from Clovis, the team asserts.
Did they find any cowboy hats? Just kidding....I live about four or five hrs from there. This is really interesting. I hope more is written about it.
Phantasman
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Actually, I was referring to the "fire" man has been using for a million years. If he's been around a million years, he sure was slow to adapt.
Never mind. Nothing to see here.
Phantasman
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I'll stick with the spiritual teachings of the Spirit.
Audie
Veteran Member
You were referring to fire when you said this? The topic was population
growth, and you said-
Not really. As I said, the theories of how long ago man came along interests me very little over where he is going.
Nothing for you to see if you are unwilling to see it.
Typically, the fundy / creationist does not like data very
much.
It was not "fire", it was real fire.
And yes, it is true that cultural progress was very
slow for a long time.
It is an interesting mystery. A sudden change as per
"god} injecting a 'soul" does not correspond with
any data. The "bible"does not solve the mystery
via a myth.
Audie
Veteran Member
Why do you guys bother to say such things?
It sounds profound, but there is no content.
Phantasman
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Keep up. I never said "soul". Animals have souls. The soul animates the flesh.You were referring to fire when you said this? The topic was population
growth, and you said-
Not really. As I said, the theories of how long ago man came along interests me very little over where he is going.
Nothing for you to see if you are unwilling to see it.
Typically, the fundy / creationist does not like data very
much.
It was not "fire", it was real fire.
And yes, it is true that cultural progress was very
slow for a long time.
It is an interesting mystery. A sudden change as per
"god} injecting a 'soul" does not correspond with
any data. The "bible"does not solve the mystery
via a myth.
I said "spirit". The spirit is what makes man alive. John 6:63
Man received the "spirit" from the Tree of Knowledge in the Eden myth.
God one gave flesh and soul. True God gave spirit to know him (which is spirit). Jesus gave the Holy Spirit to commune directly with God. The Jews never had it and didn't accept it.