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New Hampshire Voting Problem?

esmith

esmith

Veteran Member
Now I am not going to validate this video. All I'm saying is if it's true seems there could be a problem.
 
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freethinker44

Well-Known Member
I can't see a significant number of people spending hundreds or possibly thousands of dollars to travel to other states and vote in their primaries. It's possible some people did that, but I doubt it happened to a degree needed to influence the numbers.
These voter fraud conspiracies don't make any sense to me. If there's a problem with voting in our country, it's that not enough people are voting at least once, not that people are voting too often.
 
BSM1

BSM1

What? Me worry?
freethinker44 said:
I can't see a significant number of people spending hundreds or possibly thousands of dollars to travel to other states and vote in their primaries. It's possible some people did that, but I doubt it happened to a degree needed to influence the numbers.
These voter fraud conspiracies don't make any sense to me. If there's a problem with voting in our country, it's that not enough people are voting at least once, not that people are voting too often.
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You can't conceive a political party operative busing in a couple of hundred people to try and influence the vote?
 
Underhill

Underhill

Well-Known Member
BSM1 said:
You can't conceive a political party operative busing in a couple of hundred people to try and influence the vote?
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No I can't. It all comes down to risk vs.reward. The chance of it paying off is low. And the chance of it becoming a national news story that decimates your campaign is high.
 
Wirey

Wirey

Fartist
esmith said:
What does that have to do with the video posted? You might notice that I said " Now I am not going to validate this video. All I'm saying is if it's true seems there could be a problem."
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I'm not going to validate if the following statement is true. I'm just saying if it is there could be a problem.

Ted Cruz plans on surrendering Alaska to Canada in return for his real citizenship being returned. He plans on returning to Calgary now that he can afford a house there and have sex with snowmen (not me) while he screams biblical passages into the sky. Man, this is easy when you absolve yourself of any responsibility. Donald Trump is actually Lee Majors wearing a hairy midget on his head for a new realty show called "The Six Million Dollar Bankruptcy"! Marco Rubio is the reincarnation of Jack Ruby and is trying to shoot Chris Christie with what he call his "Love Gun"! The list goes on!

If you can't bring yourself to put your rep on that video that you provided, why would any thinking person take any part of it seriously?
 
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freethinker44

Well-Known Member
BSM1 said:
You can't conceive a political party operative busing in a couple of hundred people to try and influence the vote?
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No, there were a few hundred thousand primary voters in New Hampshire, so it would take a couple hundred busloads of people to influence the vote by even a single percentage point. So you're looking at busing in a few thousand people per percentage point.
It's like @Underhill said, the risk/rewards aren't worth it. If a candidate is caught doing this with even one person, let alone a thousand, it would be catastrophic to their campaign. And if even one of these people couldn't keep their mouth shut the whole plan would fail. The money would be better spent registering and busing in actual residents to the polls, and it's good publicity for them.
 
BSM1

BSM1

What? Me worry?
Underhill said:
No I can't. It all comes down to risk vs.reward. The chance of it paying off is low. And the chance of it becoming a national news story that decimates your campaign is high.
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freethinker44 said:
No, there were a few hundred thousand primary voters in New Hampshire, so it would take a couple hundred busloads of people to influence the vote by even a single percentage point. So you're looking at busing in a few thousand people per percentage point.
It's like @Underhill said, the risk/rewards aren't worth it. If a candidate is caught doing this with even one person, let alone a thousand, it would be catastrophic to their campaign. And if even one of these people couldn't keep their mouth shut the whole plan would fail. The money would be better spent registering and busing in actual residents to the polls, and it's good publicity for them.
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So how much voter fraud are you willing to overlook; especially if it is not in favor or your candidate?
 
Wirey

Wirey

Fartist
BSM1 said:
So how much voter fraud are you willing to overlook; especially if it is not in favor or your candidate?
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His point is that a busload of people wouldn't have a noticeable impact on the final count. However, getting caught bringing in a busload of fraudulent voters and getting caught would derail your career. The risk-reward payout would suggest that no person would even consider the risk for the teeny, tiny reward.
 
Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
BSM1 said:
So how much voter fraud are you willing to overlook; especially if it is not in favor or your candidate?
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Voter fraud happens. But it's very insignificant. Even in places with small populations it would take hundreds of people committing voter fraud to throw an election, and people would notice very quickly. In larger populated areas, you would need thousands of people to throw an election, which means there would be thousands of problems reported.
It would take a large and elaborate organized event to pull something off, and even with the best planning the risks of getting caught and getting away with it are just too high.
 
BSM1

BSM1

What? Me worry?
Shadow Wolf said:
Voter fraud happens. But it's very insignificant. Even in places with small populations it would take hundreds of people committing voter fraud to throw an election, and people would notice very quickly. In larger populated areas, you would need thousands of people to throw an election, which means there would be thousands of problems reported.
It would take a large and elaborate organized event to pull something off, and even with the best planning the risks of getting caught and getting away with it are just too high.
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If one person committed voter fraud (or blatantly broke any other law in plain sight and without repercussions) shouldn't we be concerned? Have we come to the point where our laws do not matter?
 
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