New polls

[Riders]

They put Biden in the lead by 2 points.I also read the economy is doing better and polls regarding the economy are up

 

[Riders]

Donald Trump hit by devastating poll from Fox News

Joe Biden is ahead of his Republican rival for the first time this year.

www.newsweek.com

Here.

 

[tytlyf]

People are crying about inflation and don't even understand why inflation is high.
Inflation is high because of covid and the lockdowns.
If Trump took the virus seriously, the lockdowns wouldn't have lasted so long.
A shorter lockdown period would have meant lower inflation.
So the Trump admin is responsible for where we are today.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

the economy is doing better and polls regarding the economy are up

Total nonsense.

 

[Riders]

But oddly enough when trump was ahead it was a different story with you guys.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

They put Biden in the lead by 2 points.I also read the economy is doing better and polls regarding the economy are up

That is a national poll. That does not matter. He is up in the electoral college.

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Donald Trump gets more good news in critical swing states: poll

A new survey by Emerson College Polling/ The Hill shows Donald Trump leading President Joe Biden in key swing states

www.newsweek.com

If you add AZ, GA, NV, PA and MI where Trump is currently up he has 302 electoral votes. These are within the margin of error but as of now going by these state polls Trump would win.

 

[Pogo]

That is a national poll. That does not matter. He is up in the electoral college.

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Donald Trump gets more good news in critical swing states: poll

A new survey by Emerson College Polling/ The Hill shows Donald Trump leading President Joe Biden in key swing states

www.newsweek.com

If you add AZ, GA, NV, PA and MI where Trump is currently up he has 302 electoral votes. These are within the margin of error but as of now going by these state polls Trump would win.

Yes, there is more education to do.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

Yes, there is more education to do.

That is the great thing about liberty and freedom of speech you have the right to convince others of your position. It is going to be hard to convince people the economy is good against their experience, or that the border is secure against the actual data, or Biden is perfectly healthy against their own eyes etc.

 

[Pogo]

That is the great thing about liberty and freedom of speech you have the right to convince others of your position. It is going to be hard to convince people the economy is good against their experience, or that the border is secure against the actual data, or Biden is perfectly healthy against their own eyes etc.

No it is hard to educate people to the fact that they have been hornswoggled into believing a pile of crap. The US economy is the envy of the world for coming out of the pandemic as well as it has and is outperforming pretty much all others. The border situation is the culmination of many years of inaction and largely due to Republican avoidance of real solutions as opposed to xenophobic rhetoric. Most recently the destruction of a carefully worked out bipartisan bill by the no 1 Rhetorician who wants the problem for his own political and personal gain. and that is just a beginning.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

People are crying about inflation and don't even understand why inflation is high.
Inflation is high because of covid and the lockdowns.
If Trump took the virus seriously, the lockdowns wouldn't have lasted so long.
A shorter lockdown period would have meant lower inflation.
So the Trump admin is responsible for where we are today.

Don't forget that, while people are decrying the economy and cost of living, this year will have the highest vacation travel in history!

I think a lot of people are buying into right-wing fear-mongering, and not even noticing that they themselves are actually doing pretty well.

 

[Pogo]

Don't forget that, while people are decrying the economy and cost of living, this year will have the highest vacation travel in history!

I think a lot of people are buying into right-wing fear-mongering, and not even noticing that they themselves are actually doing pretty well.

Ya Think?

 

[Twilight Hue]

Total nonsense.

Agree totally. Prices of goods and services have never been higher and still rising without any signs of stopping. But the delusionals in office keep saying the economy is essentially doing great.

The common person knows better first hand.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

No it is hard to educate people to the fact that they have been hornswoggled into believing a pile of crap. The US economy is the envy of the world for coming out of the pandemic as well as it has and is outperforming pretty much all others. The border situation is the culmination of many years of inaction and largely due to Republican avoidance of real solutions as opposed to xenophobic rhetoric. Most recently the destruction of a carefully worked out bipartisan bill by the no 1 Rhetorician who wants the problem for his own political and personal gain. and that is just a beginning.

Ok, go ahead and convince people that you are right and they cannot believe their own experience. You are free to do just that.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

The border situation is the culmination of many years of inaction and largely due to Republican avoidance of real solutions as opposed to xenophobic rhetoric. Most recently the destruction of a carefully worked out bipartisan bill by the no 1 Rhetorician who wants the problem for his own political and personal gain. and that is just a beginning.

This is a prime example of the hard left parroting what the dems tell them to believe.. Most people not on the hard left have reasoning powers and are smarter than you think they are. The Biden admin has been saying for the first three years of their admin that the border is secure. Go look yourself they said that until this year where they knew no one was buying it. They changed their stance to the border is a mess and it's the republicans fault. How can that logically be so? You see this is why Trump is winning, it is crap like this from the hard left expecting us to just believe them. Not all dems are hard left and can see the lies and logical inconsistencies.

The reality is that most people, except the hard left, are for legal immigration. They are not for any amount of people coming across the border that we have no idea who they are. There are many examples of illegal immigrants murdering our citizens and draining our resources. That is a reasonable stance to have that the hard left calls xenophobic instead of engaging us in debate. Trump gets this and people will vote for him. Just like 2016 the left and the media wrote off the Trump supporters as racist domestic terrorists and did not think at all about why Trump won and is still popular. They will do it again if he wins this time.

 

[Pogo]

Agree totally. Prices of goods and services have never been higher and still rising without any signs of stopping. But the delusionals in office keep saying the economy is essentially doing great.

The common person knows better first hand.

nor will they ever stop in this capitalist system, remember reading old Sears catalogs that had houses for a few hundred dollars.
Remember when the stock market was broke 10,000? DJIA 100 in 1906, 1000 in 1972, 10,000 in 1999.
The delusion is to think that anything else will happen though I suppose communism with the government determining prices might give you what you want.

 

[Pogo]

This is a prime example of the hard left parroting what the dems tell them to believe.. Most people not on the hard left have reasoning powers and are smarter than you think they are. The Biden admin has been saying for the first three years of their admin that the border is secure. Go look yourself they said that until this year where they knew no one was buying it. They changed their stance to the border is a mess and it's the republicans fault. How can that logically be so? You see this is why Trump is winning, it is crap like this from the hard left expecting us to just believe them. Not all dems are hard left and can see the lies and logical inconsistencies.

The reality is that most people, except the hard left, are for legal immigration. They are not for any amount of people coming across the border that we have no idea who they are. There are many examples of illegal immigrants murdering our citizens and draining our resources. That is a reasonable stance to have that the hard left calls xenophobic instead of engaging us in debate. Trump gets this and people will vote for him. Just like 2016 the left and the media wrote off the Trump supporters as racist domestic terrorists and did not think at all about why Trump won and is still popular. They will do it again if he wins this time.

if you are for legal immigration, then support efforts to effect that. By US law people who present themselves inside this country are required to be given due process to determine whether they are eligible for citizenship, right now the backlog is so long that they could well be here 20 years and paying taxes the whole time before their cases are resolved. Putting up a wall doesn't work as has been seen and we have to deal with them anyhow when they present.
Better to fix the problem at the source, not wait for them to show up on the doorstep.

 

[Pogo]

another slow response dupe post.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

if you are for legal immigration, then support efforts to effect that. By US law people who present themselves inside this country are required to be given due process to determine whether they are eligible for citizenship, right now the backlog is so long that they could well be here 20 years and paying taxes the whole time before their cases are resolved. Putting up a wall doesn't work as has been seen and we have to deal with them anyhow when they present.
Better to fix the problem at the source, not wait for them to show up on the doorstep.

There are other issues for sure but that is not the point of my post. My point was dems saying the border is secure for 3 years then in an election year they say it is a mess and republicans are to blame. We are not dumb, that makes no logical sense and people see through that.