New Texas bill would force school to out gay students.

[columbus]

Maybe I should adjust my posting style. I do it that way because it looks cleaner, but if it helps people to actually see the http code I will start including that as well.

FWIW, the new RF is littered with links. Nearly all of them are to crummy websites selling stuff. I never clink a link on RF unless the poster gives me an explanation of why they put it in.
Tom

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Schools should not be involved with peoples personal lives. So there should be no special provisions encouraging them to do so.

Rules are possibly different here (Australia), but as a teacher I was legally required to report suspected child abuse.

Sadly, I had to do this twice.

Should I have not?

 

[Kemosloby]

What a truly pathetic and calloused response that is.

Rules are possibly different here (Australia), but as a teacher I was legally required to report suspected child abuse.

Sadly, I had to do this twice.

Should I have not?

Sure why not. Do you need a special councellor status to report child abuse?

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Sure why not. Do you need a special councellor status to report child abuse?

No.
But I was surely interfering in their 'personal lives'.

 

[Kemosloby]

No.
But I was surely interfering in their 'personal lives'.

No, you were just reporting what you suspected to authorities. The regular authorities would have done the interferring if any was justified.

 

[Skwim]

Maybe I should adjust my posting style. I do it that way because it looks cleaner, but if it helps people to actually see the http code I will start including that as well.

No need to show the http code, your posting style is just fine, but a direct reference to the posted link itself may help.


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[Lighthouse]

I think the better question is if parents should know and have the right to their child's information and well-being at school or if parents should be left in the dark in terms of many of it.
I think that a dual effort would be best, both parents and educators/counselors unless it's the parents that their own children fear or are abusive towards.
Granted, and sadly... I think for many children that their teachers and counselors are better role models than a lot of parents these days who are lazy/selfish and don't care to put much time into children. Not even mentioning the poor and hateful character in many parents as is. But there are also many quality and loving parents also.
All the hoopla about gays being forced out is media-driven hyper-emotional delusional conspiracy.

 

[Lighthouse]

Wow, how compassionate! Tell me, exactly how would you fit that into the Sermon On the Mount?

As a parent, a grandparent, and a former educator, so many students need help nowadays. My son, who suffers from bipolar disorder, twice tried to commit suicide but confided in a high school counselor whereas that contact probably saved his life. . Today he is a 43 and owns his own company.

Maybe consider putting our young people and their future and our future as a humane country ahead of money?

First and foremost, if this contributed to the well-being of your son... very glad to hear.

I must ask though, would you have been okay had you never been informed of your sons suicidal thoughts?

 

[SomeRandom]

As you see the methods schools are using are ineffective and discipline has become more than the staff can handle. More authority and less mediators, there is no middle ground on school fights. Social engineering, or raising children should not be a responsibility of the school. Teaching the prescribed subjects should be their limitations, and using whatever discipline is necessary to maintain a safe and orderly environment.

They already do. But schools also heed the direction of child phsychology. The methods of teaching and discipline have vastly updated. And please, spare me the whole "kids today are worse than my gen" crap. My father went through the early British education system, back during the Great Depression. He'd be the first to express disgust at how the teachers treated kids in the name of so called "discipline" which he witnessed only made kids grow cold and violent. And God forbid you were a more sensitive child.
Discipline is not the only solution and should not be. Life is more complex. In many ways kids today are more well behaved than the Greatest generation and the Baby Boomers. It's just that our childhood escapades are caught on camera 24/7. I've heard the stories from previous generations. Makes me and my peers look like freaking Angels.

 

[columbus]

I am very glad I am not a teacher these days. Caught between the rock of legal requirements/prohibitions and the hard place of irresponsible/litigious parents.
It's got to be difficult to do the best thing for the kids under delicate circumstances.
Tom

 

[metis]

Rules are possibly different here (Australia), but as a teacher I was legally required to report suspected child abuse.

Same here in Michigan, U.S.A. We have more gun deaths through suicide in the U.S. than with any other gun-related cause.

 

[metis]

First and foremost, if this contributed to the well-being of your son... very glad to hear.

I must ask though, would you have been okay had you never been informed of your sons suicidal thoughts?

Thanks so much for your concern.

As to the question, I definitely needed to know because bipolar disorder needs to be monitored. My son is now 43 years old, and I have repeatedly told him for many years ago to call and vent with me if he's having a problem, and he does take advantage of this such as he did this afternoon. It is best he do that with me, who's familiar with the problem and has experience with such matters, versus venting to his wife or daughter who haven't had the training.

I probably average about 1 such call per month from him, but he really tends to get very intense in the spring. Two springs ago he again threatened suicide.

And I also have a granddaughter who suffers from mood disorder, who also tried twice to commit suicide two years ago, and I work with her as well. And, believe it or not, I had to help her out again today as well (not suicidal in this case).

Again, thanks.

 

[SomeRandom]

He was just trying to get out of class. Those are a lot of probably's, And like Lyrnyrd Skynyrd song says " suicidal not man enough to die", I don't think God made it easy to off yourself, people generally opt to stay alive, councellor or no councellor.

What a truly despicable thing to say. Do you even know what bipolar (manic depression) disorder is?
Also people commit suicide daily, apparently not that hard to off yourself, if one is desperate enough or in a certain frame of mind.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

No, you were just reporting what you suspected to authorities. The regular authorities would have done the interferring if any was justified.

That strikes me as some mighty strange compartmentilization.