Couldn’t they just work it into the booster already recommended? I mean I have to get mine next March anyway so why not adapt it? Is that not a thing they’re able to do?
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We Never Know
No Slack
I don't think anyone really knows. The virus itself still has them stumped in some ways.
Ahh well that tends to happen with fast mutating viruses, right? But I mean we eventually figured out TB and Polio and all these past diseases, right?
I am amazed at how political the vaccines have become. I know that’s always been the case for vaccination in general. But to see such complacency and antipathy. And from the generation that used to soundly lecture mine for “reaping the benefits of modern medicine without witnessing the toll” no less.
It’s kind of surreal to witness, ngl
Are we really this desensitised? This ready to throw away medicine just because of Big Pharma? Which, isn’t that mainly a US thing anyway? I mean countries that uses taxes to pay its doctors and pharmacists have come to the same conclusion. So where’s our country’s big pharma supposed profits in all this? Our dentists probably make more money lol
We Never Know
No Slack
Yes we eventually after many years figured out polo and other diseases.
And I 100% agree. Not only did the vaccine become political, the virus itself has been political right from the go. I don't recall that ever happening before. If it did it wasn't on such a large scale.
In fairness, we didn’t possess the same technological advancements at the time. I doubt it will take us as long this time round. Scientists will have to fight against a very high amount of public apathy/antipathy it seems.
Hnm, true. Social media. The internet is both a blessing and curse. Misinformation can be bandied about at a much higher and faster rate now. For all our advancements as a species, sometimes it seems like we are forever stuck in a primitive mindset
Not lots. It's somewhere around a 90+% take up where i live. Not sure about other countries.
However
I couldn't care less about those who willing put their lives at risk when it is not necessary. I do however care that they could not care less about killing other people by passing on their infection.
We Never Know
No Slack
As of November 4-8, 2021..National weekly flu vacination
- 40.9% have received a flu vaccine
- 17.6% plan to receive it
- 15.1% are not sure if they will receive it
- 26.4% do not plan to receive it
- The projected coverage for 2021-22, including persons already vaccinated and plan to get vaccinated, is 58.5%. This is 3.7 percentage points higher than the 54.8% who reported being vaccinated during 2020-21.
And America accounts for just 5% of the worlds population. To judge the rest of the world by US standards is a littl over the top nationalism don't you think?
I specifically stated "where i live"
Well maybe anti capitalists here have enough resources to see through the successful attempts of the US government disrupting or even toppling any country that so much as whispers a hint at refusing to be fully cutthroat capitalist.
Seriously even in high school I learnt about the US services basically gutting any regime that didn’t kiss the ring of capitalism. And we’re your political allies.
So maybe the lack of resources says more about US foreign policy (as an agreed upon superpower that can control such things.)
Alternatively maybe such voices are the same in such countries but without the necessary tools to voice such objections?
Okay I’m not being entirely serious, admittedly. This post is mostly tongue in cheek. Because I’m an idiot
But I could make a very long list of all the times my history teachers (mostly modern) specifically called out the US for being jerks on the world stage. Decapitating all sorts of leftist movements around the world. And these are teachers who were largely conservative.
This was before and after 9/11. Which always fascinated me. Like you guys shape the world and yet seem to wash your hands of such power in the same breath. Why?
Secret Chief
Vetted Member
Admit? Like the annual flu jab?
Secret Chief
Vetted Member
What if the virus doesn't ignore you?
Secret Chief
Vetted Member
Viruses do that. Hence the "annual."
Terrywoodenpic
Oldest Heretic
It Covid were not causing a disproportionate number of deaths and totally blocking up the Hospital facilities with the desperately ill, and to the detriment to all other patients, then the world would treat it no different to other illnesses.
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
Cause Eagles, and Baseball, and Apple Pie, that's why!
(Americans tend towards nationalism rather than patriotism, since the former requires blind love and the latter allows for imperfection and working on improvement.)
Lol
I mean don’t get me wrong. I have nothing but love for my American allies.
But you guys seem to pretend that your international policies are meaningless. When they even affect your allies politically speaking. Which strikes me as entirely irresponsible. No offence
Terrywoodenpic
Oldest Heretic
Society accepts the large level of deaths due to flu each year.
The majority of the old and vulnerable who are offered Flu vaccines usually accept them each year. It is now a mature system that works smoothly and efficiently in most countries, it is not contentious. Those that do not take up the Vaccination comprise a majority of those that die or are seriously ill from Flu, they contribute to a significant but manageable extra load to the health services each winter.
By comparison the Corona virus is still out of control, the health services are unable to cope with massive extra demands. The systems in place are far from mature, and the death toll and serious long term illnesses remain at an unacceptable level. And the mutations of the virus are running ahead of the production of new effective vaccinations. No one is as yet on top of the situation The pandemic continues. Unlike flu it does not appear to be seasonal.
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Terrywoodenpic
Oldest Heretic
We have to live in a world of allies and potential enemies. Our choices are never black and white. our foreign policies must necessarily follow a complex course. at times this will not please all our allies.
The USA never seems to take its allies best interests in to account when making international policies.
The present world shortage of Chips, that is massively damaging manufacturing and trade, is largely down to the American embargos with China over technology. Fortunately it will soon enough be self correcting when China fill in its technological gaps.
Though China is one of the largest manufacturers, China has been a net importer of chips of all kinds.
5G is effectively stalled, particularly in Canada as Huawei holds a majority of the controlling patents and has withheld those rights from them. They could if they wish do the same to the Scandinavian alternative suppliers. The USA has no manufacturing capability for 5G at all. As world leaders in UV litho technology the Dutch are the sole supplier to the world of the most advanced machines. as they use some American patented technology in their manufacture they are banned from selling these to China.
Is America pushes too hard and damages European trade much more, Europe and the far east will ignore American blockades out of self preservation.
In the mean time China is not standing still, and will continue to develop its own necessary alternatives to American technology.
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Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
None taken. I, and many Americans, agree.
Survival of the fittest.
Then hopefully the Lord doesn't will death or severe illness for me if that happens.
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