NEWTON SCRYING IN BLACK MIRRORS

[Native]

OP: The spiritual/intuitive method of gathering knowledge.
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In this Religion-Science department it´s very common to meet philosophical resistance and rejection from fellow debaters when suggesting alternate approaches and explanations to mythical and cosmological issues.

I though, have not yet poked a needle over my eyeball or stared in black mirrors to get metaphysical inspirations and visions of everything as Newton did.

Apparently, some of the RF proponents of “real science” have forgotten the very philosophical and metaphysical basics of modern science used even by Newton, their big hero.

VIDEO: NEWTON SCRYING IN BLACK MIRRORS​

Video Abstract
Dive into the lesser-known side of Sir Isaac Newton, as we explore his fascination with alchemy and the enigmatic black mirrors. In this captivating video, we'll uncover the secrets behind Newton's alchemical experiments and his quest for the Philosopher's Stone. We'll also delve into the intriguing world of black mirrors which involves the practice of scrying. Scrying is an archaic divination technique used by occult practitioners, in which a magician gazes into a reflection or object to receive symbols, guidance, or images from the spirit realm. This ancient procedure undoubtedly had a role in Newton's studies and a potential connection to his groundbreaking scientific discoveries.
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Relevant comments to this anyone?

 

[syo]

his groundbreaking scientific discoveries.

What?

 

[ChristineM]

OP: The spiritual/intuitive method of gathering knowledge.
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In this Religion-Science department it´s very common to meet philosophical resistance and rejection from fellow debaters when suggesting alternate approaches and explanations to mythical and cosmological issues.

I though, have not yet poked a needle over my eyeball or stared in black mirrors to get metaphysical inspirations and visions of everything as Newton did.

Apparently, some of the RF proponents of “real science” have forgotten the very philosophical and metaphysical basics of modern science used even by Newton, their big hero.

VIDEO: NEWTON SCRYING IN BLACK MIRRORS​

Video Abstract
Dive into the lesser-known side of Sir Isaac Newton, as we explore his fascination with alchemy and the enigmatic black mirrors. In this captivating video, we'll uncover the secrets behind Newton's alchemical experiments and his quest for the Philosopher's Stone. We'll also delve into the intriguing world of black mirrors which involves the practice of scrying. Scrying is an archaic divination technique used by occult practitioners, in which a magician gazes into a reflection or object to receive symbols, guidance, or images from the spirit realm. This ancient procedure undoubtedly had a role in Newton's studies and a potential connection to his groundbreaking scientific discoveries.
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Relevant comments to this anyone?

I don't know about America but over this side of the Atlantic it is common knowledge (and is taught in school) that Newton was a Christian and dabbled in woo in his search for the philosophers stone.

He did invent the cat door though... And the milled edge coin.

 

[Native]

Native said:
his groundbreaking scientific discoveries.
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What?

Well, it wasn´t and isn´t me who said that, but the video author.

 

[cladking]

Frankly I believe Newton was far less mystical than many people today. He knew he knew almost nothing and was willing to look for knowledge anywhere he could find it. Today most people believe everything is already known and this is highly mystical.

Newton got pretty close to achieving immortality. He looked in all the right places and found all the right things but then misinterpreted and mistranslated them. Human consciousness, all consciousness, is largely pattern recognition and things like "scrying" can certainly lead an individual to seeing patterns not normally available to the human (homo omnisciencis) consciousness.

Of course I'm just wasting my time in this thread because until a believer tells me what my words mean they have no meaning at all.

It's such a big wonderful world full of new things to discover and experience and it will always be thus until you know everything.

Imagine. A life so long you can learn the difference between good and evil. Imagine a life like Newton's and lasting for centuries just like Methuselah. I'm sure I'd get bored once I knew everything.

 

[cladking]

Native said:
his groundbreaking scientific discoveries.
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Well, it wasn´t and isn´t me who said that, but the video author.

Newton formatted modern science and was the father of modern science. He was a genius of the first order like Imhotep or Da Vinci.

 

[ChristineM]

Newton formatted modern science and was the father of modern science. He was a genius of the first order like Imhotep or Da Vinci.

Not really, Galileo is often cited as the inventor of modern science. It was James Bradley who did the first high precision measurements. Though it grew from the scientific revolution in China and India that it grew.

There are many father's of modern science who all added to what it has become today.

 

[cladking]

Not really, Galileo is often cited as the inventor of modern science.

Newton was born the year Galileo died. His work was principally in astronomy.

Newton's work applied across all of science and brought all of science under a single paradigm that persists to this day.

 

[ChristineM]

Newton was born the year Galileo died. His work was principally in astronomy.

Newton's work applied across all of science and brought all of science under a single paradigm that persists to this day.

It doesn't matter what branch of science, ehat matters is the method.

History is a wonderful tool if it's taught properly.

What did Newton invent?

And i note you had to remove some of my post. Figures

 

[cladking]

All science like all life and all reality is incremental and occurs in a series of events with each dependent on previous (existing) conditions. Newton is simply more fundamental to more science than is Galileo.

Everything has infinite fathers and infinite mothers and all things become in time the originators of all other things. It doesn't change the fact that Newton can't be factored out of any science or any human knowledge but Galileo can. It will be a very long time before Galileo's work becomes important to zoology or cryptography.

 

[Twilight Hue]

OP: The spiritual/intuitive method of gathering knowledge.
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In this Religion-Science department it´s very common to meet philosophical resistance and rejection from fellow debaters when suggesting alternate approaches and explanations to mythical and cosmological issues.

I though, have not yet poked a needle over my eyeball or stared in black mirrors to get metaphysical inspirations and visions of everything as Newton did.

Apparently, some of the RF proponents of “real science” have forgotten the very philosophical and metaphysical basics of modern science used even by Newton, their big hero.

VIDEO: NEWTON SCRYING IN BLACK MIRRORS​

Video Abstract
Dive into the lesser-known side of Sir Isaac Newton, as we explore his fascination with alchemy and the enigmatic black mirrors. In this captivating video, we'll uncover the secrets behind Newton's alchemical experiments and his quest for the Philosopher's Stone. We'll also delve into the intriguing world of black mirrors which involves the practice of scrying. Scrying is an archaic divination technique used by occult practitioners, in which a magician gazes into a reflection or object to receive symbols, guidance, or images from the spirit realm. This ancient procedure undoubtedly had a role in Newton's studies and a potential connection to his groundbreaking scientific discoveries.
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Relevant comments to this anyone?

Abstract?

Uh. OK.

 

[cladking]

It doesn't matter what branch of science, ehat matters is the method.

History is a wonderful tool if it's taught properly.

What did Newton invent?

And i note you had to remove some of my post. Figures

This thread is really about how things arise. Newton explored many avenues of research including studying the pyramids seeking ancient knowledge about the size of the earth. He didn't find it which is just as well since ancient people may have made some miscalculations in its size. But he found a great deal of other things.

Is Newton being cancelled or something. I don't get the memos so I wouldn't know.

Those who consider mystical, occult, or religious ideas to be nonsense simply don't understand the nature of science, reality, and consciousness. Everyone now and in the past since the tower of babel has been at least a little occult unless they believe in today's science. Once you have all the answers myth, legend, and ancient writing no longer have any meaning at all: Alchemy rose from mystics poisoned by their own experiments and religion was invented to delude the masses. Nobody makes or has ever made any sense except believers in science.

 

[cladking]

OP: The spiritual/intuitive method of gathering knowledge.
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In this Religion-Science department it´s very common to meet philosophical resistance and rejection from fellow debaters when suggesting alternate approaches and explanations to mythical and cosmological issues.

I though, have not yet poked a needle over my eyeball or stared in black mirrors to get metaphysical inspirations and visions of everything as Newton did.

Apparently, some of the RF proponents of “real science” have forgotten the very philosophical and metaphysical basics of modern science used even by Newton, their big hero.

VIDEO: NEWTON SCRYING IN BLACK MIRRORS​

Video Abstract
Dive into the lesser-known side of Sir Isaac Newton, as we explore his fascination with alchemy and the enigmatic black mirrors. In this captivating video, we'll uncover the secrets behind Newton's alchemical experiments and his quest for the Philosopher's Stone. We'll also delve into the intriguing world of black mirrors which involves the practice of scrying. Scrying is an archaic divination technique used by occult practitioners, in which a magician gazes into a reflection or object to receive symbols, guidance, or images from the spirit realm. This ancient procedure undoubtedly had a role in Newton's studies and a potential connection to his groundbreaking scientific discoveries.
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Relevant comments to this anyone?

Alchemy was simply ancient chemistry which had been confused. Newton saw the patterns so he studied it. Curiously alchemy got the concept of the philosopher's stone very closely but misunderstood its function. They were trying to convert different forms of gold to another and for human benefit.

Patterns in nature are usually closely correlated so consciousness mirrors such correlations. When we can identify them for the first time there is often scientific advancement. This same thing occurs throughout nature and each of her species. Myths have such correlations because they are founded in ancient knowledge. We are different and it is harder for us to see disparate or distantly related patterns and correlation because our consciousness operates differently for 4000 yrs. There are many ways to bring these correlations to awareness but they'll almost all sound like they are occult or mystical. They are not. Even scrying is not necessarily mystical per se.

 

[ChristineM]

All science like all life and all reality is incremental and occurs in a series of events with each dependent on previous (existing) conditions. Newton is simply more fundamental to more science than is Galileo.

Everything has infinite fathers and infinite mothers and all things become in time the originators of all other things. It doesn't change the fact that Newton can't be factored out of any science or any human knowledge but Galileo can. It will be a very long time before Galileo's work becomes important to zoology or cryptography.

I have never said he cannot be factored out. I have said there are many fathers of modern science

May i suggest you do a bit of Google learning... "father of modern science" is s good place to start.

 

[ChristineM]

This thread is really about how things arise. Newton explored many avenues of research including studying the pyramids seeking ancient knowledge about the size of the earth. He didn't find it which is just as well since ancient people may have made some miscalculations in its size. But he found a great deal of other things.

Is Newton being cancelled or something. I don't get the memos so I wouldn't know.

Those who consider mystical, occult, or religious ideas to be nonsense simply don't understand the nature of science, reality, and consciousness. Everyone now and in the past since the tower of babel has been at least a little occult unless they believe in today's science. Once you have all the answers myth, legend, and ancient writing no longer have any meaning at all: Alchemy rose from mystics poisoned by their own experiments and religion was invented to delude the masses. Nobody makes or has ever made any sense except believers in science.

So you can't answer the question "what did Newton invent"... Fair enough

 

[Native]

Of course I'm just wasting my time in this thread because until a believer tells me what my words mean they have no meaning at all.

The opposite is the cause I´m a little short with my comments to you.

I'm sure I'd get bored once I knew everything.

Some wise guys says it´s Nirvana . . .

Newton's work applied across all of science and brought all of science under a single paradigm that persists to this day.

If you here especially are referring to the "graviity concept", this should have been scientifically analysed and discarded when the galactic rotation was discovered for a century ago.

Alchemy rose from mystics poisoned by their own experiments and religion was invented to delude the masses.

IMHO "religion" was never initially invented as it was directly connected to the natural cycles on and above the Earth, as as such an observed fact. for all ancestors. Later on in classic and historic times, it´s quite another and sad story where the priesthood got in bed with militaristic power holders.

Alchemy was simply ancient chemistry which had been confused. Newton saw the patterns so he studied it. Curiously alchemy got the concept of the philosopher's stone very closely but misunderstood its function. They were trying to convert different forms of gold to another and for human benefit.

Agreed in this. The "Philosophers Stone" is not at stone, but the Golden Knowledge of oneself and the Creation et all.

We are different and it is harder for us to see disparate or distantly related patterns and correlation because our consciousness operates differently for 4000 yrs.

On the surface, yes, but not when it comes to the deeper matters. Anybody can STILL get in contact with the same principle creative forces as our ancestors. I know that for a fact myself by, without asking for it, having spontaneous experiences of such.

There are many ways to bring these correlations to awareness but they'll almost all sound like they are occult or mystical. They are not. Even scrying is not necessarily mystical per se.

Subsequently, I agree in this too, Cladking.

 

[dybmh]

Relevant comments to this anyone?

Sure. In the video you posted around 2:00ish, it says that Newton believed his scrying was exposing his own sub-concious thoughts. He was learning about himself, and his own desires.

However, learning how to scry is a useful tool. It is teaching how to be open minded. As long as any conclusions developed from open-minded-ness is compared to reality, open-minded-ness is useful. When reality is ignored, open-minded-ness is not useful. It's useful until it's not, just like everything.

 

[cladking]

Some wise guys says it´s Nirvana . . .

Boredom has always been my kryptonite. I have to keep moving all the time and stay busy or I fade into the furniture. Fortunately I've been able to keep it at bay since I've been an adult.

If you here especially are referring to the "graviity concept", this should have been scientifically analysed and discarded when the galactic rotation was discovered for a century ago.

I don't accept all of Newton's assumptions or consider them necessary but these are the terms in which science operates at this time.

IMHO "religion" was never initially invented as it was directly connected to the natural cycles on and above the Earth, as as such an observed fact. for all ancestors. Later on in classic and historic times, it´s quite another and sad story where the priesthood got in bed with militaristic power holders.

We're in close agreement here. I believe ancient thinking is still very much a part of the modern world through many processes including myth, language, and religion. But I believe most things about ancient people is misapprehended. So we misunderstand ourselves and our science.

On the surface, yes, but not when it comes to the deeper matters. Anybody can STILL get in contact with the same principle creative forces as our ancestors. I know that for a fact myself by, without asking for it, having spontaneous experiences of such.

Some thing are virtually impossible for us to see from our perspective and others are much easier. We tend to easily see patterns and correlations between related and interdependent phenomena but we have great difficulty seeing how apparently distinct phenomena are related. It's easy to see waves of people leaving the cities in the afternoon but it's harder to see how this affects the way the automatic doors work at the local grocery or the behavior of hawks in the suburbs.

One of the things we are weakest at is being able to see how our minds work and how animal minds must work to explain their behavior/ communication. I believe this is where things like scrying can be helpful.

 

[Native]

But I believe most things about ancient people is misapprehended. So we misunderstand ourselves and our

I´m sure lots of ancient perception and thinking is misapprehended by historic and modern mythical scholars.

For instants:
IMO the numerous cultural Stories of Creation, deal with the preconditions of, and the factual formation of the Milky Way, for instants represented by the Egyptian Mother Goddess Hathor residing on the Earth southern hemisphere, where the Milky Way center is located.

In this telling, our ancestors de facto supersedes modern cosmology by having incorporated the creation of the Solar System in the Milky Way formation, whereas modern astrophysics just have a random cosmic cloud of gas and dust which "collapse" into the Solar System.

When historic and modern mythological scholars interpret these ancient myths of creation, they don´t include Milky Way deities/forces at all. They have the central Milky Way light to be the Sun, and the cresent Milky Way contours on both Earth´s hemispheres to be the Moon., thus speaking of "Sun-Gods and Lunar-Goddesses instead of Milky Way divine forces. In this way they both distort the ancient creation myth and its overall cosmogonic explanation.

Another example is the "two time biblical creation of the Earth" interpretation. The ancient creation story goes, in a modernized explanation, from "chaos" =unconstructed rivers" of fluent gas and dust in cosmos". These are assembled in a swirling centripetal motion which heats up everything until a strong central LIGHT is ignited. In the Egyptian Creation Story this Central Light is called Amun-Ra who become "father to the goddess Hathor", representing the Milky Way on the southern hemisphere.

This central Light sort out gaseous and "clay" elements to form gaseous orbs and firmer matters et all - and here we have the initial biblical notion of "earth" as in soil, mud, and clay, which forms everything firmer matters in the Milky Way. This earth, soil, clay is scholarly interpreted as being the Earth, but this comes in fact later in this biblical explanation.

This just show how precise cosmological knowledge our ancestors had/have, and they only could have such a precise Milky Way knowledge by spiritual and intuitive visions and informations. And, by having a cyclical perception of everything, they weren´t burdened by modern mental constructs as a "Big Bang" and black this and that inventions.

 

[Native]

OBS: It´s a bit trivial to me that I don´t get notifed of new posts in RF.
I don´t sit permanently waiting for replies, and this causes delays answering these when I manually check out my OP´s.
Do others here have the same problem?