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Nikola Tesla

Dezzie

Well-Known Member
So, as all of you can see (by viewing my new Avatar and Signature) I have been very interested in Nikola Tesla lately. My question is basic... why was Tesla not noticed as much as the other popular Scientists?

When I was in school, I was only taught about Newton, Darwin, Einstein, and a couple others. I never heard of Tesla and his name was never recognized, nor brought up once. I literally just learned about him very recently (I'm 22 :facepalm:). Why is this? In my opinion he was one of the greatest Scientists of all time. What do you guys think?

This site was actually pretty funny, yet informative about him:

****** of the Week: Nikola Tesla
 

.lava

Veteran Member
So, as all of you can see (by viewing my new Avatar and Signature) I have been very interested in Nikola Tesla lately. My question is basic... why was Tesla not noticed as much as the other popular Scientists?

When I was in school, I was only taught about Newton, Darwin, Einstein, and a couple others. I never heard of Tesla and his name was never recognized, nor brought up once. I literally just learned about him very recently (I'm 22 :facepalm:). Why is this? In my opinion he was one of the greatest Scientists of all time. What do you guys think?

This site was actually pretty funny, yet informative about him:

****** of the Week: Nikola Tesla

i love Tesla. an amazing guy. i am afraid his work was stolen. i think his stolen reputation is related to politics. he should have been in the place of Einstein has today. he is the one who trully earned it

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angellous_evangellous

Guest
I believe Tesla made an appearance in some show about magicians with Christopher Bale.
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
Tesla was considered a quack, even in his day, as is demonstrated by movie portrayals of him down through the years --most recently, that I've seen, in The Prestige (played by David Bowie).
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
Tesla was considered a quack, even in his day, as is demonstrated by movie portrayals of him down through the years --most recently, that I've seen, in The Prestige (played by David Bowie).

Yep, that's it.
 

Dezzie

Well-Known Member
Tesla was considered a quack, even in his day, as is demonstrated by movie portrayals of him down through the years --most recently, that I've seen, in The Prestige (played by David Bowie).

Tesla did have some issues with OCD... He also spoke to pigeons, and "occasionally thought he was receiving electromagnetic signals from extraterrestrials on Mars." I think many Scientists have been called crazy though, whether they really were or not. A Scientist should never be "ignored" because he may have had some mental issues. Tesla was very successful in much of his work. He didn't go through with some of his inventions but those ones he did, were extremely amazing and beyond his time. He has impressed me...
 

Dezzie

Well-Known Member
i love Tesla. an amazing guy. i am afraid his work was stolen. i think his stolen reputation is related to politics. he should have been in the place of Einstein has today. he is the one who trully earned it

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I believe his work was stolen too. I think the day he died, one of his family members tried to rush to his body before anyone else got to it. He unfortunately was too late. When he reached the Hotel Tesla was staying at, his body and belongings were already gone. I think someone took his work... but yet some things sound fishy... I don't understand why people would ignore his creations... It's too weird for me to understand.
 

Nepenthe

Tu Stultus Es
Tesla was certainly a brilliant engineer, but he was a crackpot when it came to physics and he often made outrageous claims with no evidence to back it up. He was a big self promoter and while there’s nothing inherently wrong with that, there’s something of a Tesla cult that exists today who accept many of Tesla’s self aggrandizing as fact despite the lack of confirmation. Case in point, the site linked in the OP mentions how Tesla

“…once lit 200 lightbulbs from a power source 26 miles away, and he did it in 1899 with a machine he built from spare parts in the middle of the god-forsaken desert. To this day, nobody can really figure out how the hell he pulled that **** off, because two-thirds of the schematics only existed in the darkest recesses of Tesla's all-powerful brain.”​

It’s a story that has been repeated over and over again with subtle variations (I’ve seen 25, 26, 27, 30 and 31 miles away mentioned; some reports say the media was there others do not, but the 200 bulbs remains consistent) and has a new life online but I can’t find any independent report that it actually happened. It sounds apocryphal and/or more Tesla chest thumping. It’s interesting that if the media were present (or even if they weren’t I suppose) you’d expect a photograph or two to commemorate such a remarkable feat considering how massive and impressive the transmitter “machine he built from spare parts in the middle of the god-forsaken desert” would be.

We love a good mad scientist narrative almost as much as we love the underdog rebel, the wacky genius who perseveres against the mainstream. But Tesla was extremely famous in his lifetime and he had access to a vast amount of wealth- he was funded by Westinghouse. There’s little of the little guy fighting the system when it comes to Tesla; he was the system and talked the good talk but made many an anecdotal exaggeration with little evidential support.

But back to physics- he was a notorious crank in this aspect. He was simply wrong about relativity, calling it a:

“...magnificent mathematical garb which fascinates, dazzles and makes people blind to the underlying errors. The theory is like a beggar clothed in purple whom ignorant people take for a king ... its exponents are brilliant men but they are metaphysicists rather than scientists.”

Brilliant guy, a genius engineer and his contributions to wireless technology is amazing, but he’s not the ignored genius his fans have portrayed him. He wouldn’t have come up with so much stuff without standing on the shoulders of Joseph Swann and Faraday and the dozens of crank websites devoted to him do him little favor by ignoring his many legitimate contributions and focusing on conspiracies about his secret stolen mad scientist dooms day weapons an death rays and such.
 

Nepenthe

Tu Stultus Es
I can only assume because Marvel has been through every other iteration of X vs. Y.

Edit: Oh, wait Batman is DC.
My post pretty much outed me as a nerd didn't it? :eek: In for a pound I guess...
batman_vs_wolverine_at_chess_by_sin.jpg
 
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9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Case in point, the site linked in the OP mentions how Tesla

“…once lit 200 lightbulbs from a power source 26 miles away, and he did it in 1899 with a machine he built from spare parts in the middle of the god-forsaken desert. To this day, nobody can really figure out how the hell he pulled that **** off, because two-thirds of the schematics only existed in the darkest recesses of Tesla's all-powerful brain.”​

It’s a story that has been repeated over and over again with subtle variations (I’ve seen 25, 26, 27, 30 and 31 miles away mentioned; some reports say the media was there others do not, but the 200 bulbs remains consistent) and has a new life online but I can’t find any independent report that it actually happened. It sounds apocryphal and/or more Tesla chest thumping. It’s interesting that if the media were present (or even if they weren’t I suppose) you’d expect a photograph or two to commemorate such a remarkable feat considering how massive and impressive the transmitter “machine he built from spare parts in the middle of the god-forsaken desert” would be.
There's a photo on Wikipedia's Tesla page that might have something to do with this:

220px-TeslaWirelessLightsCS.png


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla

It looks like it's three lights, not 200, and assuming that those cables in the background have something to do with the experiment, then the power was probably transmitted (inducted?) over a couple hundred feet at most.

That would probably be doable with the technology Tesla had access to. Horribly inefficient, but doable.
 

Dirty Penguin

Master Of Ceremony
So, as all of you can see (by viewing my new Avatar and Signature) I have been very interested in Nikola Tesla lately. My question is basic... why was Tesla not noticed as much as the other popular Scientists?

When I was in school, I was only taught about Newton, Darwin, Einstein, and a couple others. I never heard of Tesla and his name was never recognized, nor brought up once. I literally just learned about him very recently (I'm 22 :facepalm:). Why is this? In my opinion he was one of the greatest Scientists of all time. What do you guys think?

This site was actually pretty funny, yet informative about him:

****** of the Week: Nikola Tesla

I don't know a lot about him other than he was extremely intelligent. I think there was some issues or patent issues between he and Thomas Edison but my historical knowledge of him is not good. I think he is the inspiration for the modern day Tesla car that has made its way back in the news and due to be sold to the public in the very near future.

War of Currents - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Tesla Roadster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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