Nine Pieces Of Evidence That Confirm The Historical Accuracy Of The Bible

[MJFlores]

You are simply making a common error among believers. Reinterpreting the Bible after the fact. Vague "prophecies" are worthless since they have multiple interpretations and given enough time they can be "fulfilled" more than once. What you should pay attention to are the prophecies with a clear time limit. Those tend to fail rather poorly. At least if one tries to take them literally as prophecy of a future event.

What was prophesied then, of course becomes historical fact after it happens.

If you want a prophecy that is to come, I could show that too.

2 Peter 3:9-12 New International Version (NIV)
The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare.

Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat.


NOW that is not after the fact!

 

[Subduction Zone]

My point is the prophecy is already coming true but in such a way that will still allow some people to deny it.

Overly vague prophecies often "come true". They are of no value. Check out the prophecies of Nostradamus.

 

[MJFlores]

How do you deal with the failed prophecies of the Bible? Not the unfulfilled ones, ones that can never be fulfilled since their time has passed.

Failed prophecies?

Maybe people fail to predict but what is written will be fulfilled because all of the words of God will not lose its power.

Next when people predict the time when the end of the world will happen, then that is a BIG MISTAKE and will definitely end in embarrassment to him and his followers. Next, predicting the end of the world and failing it - is the sign that they are the false prophets, giving false hopes and false news.

How can a person predict something which even the Lord Jesus Christ does not know?
How can a person predict something when even the angels in heaven do not know?
What makes this persons so special over the Lord Jesus Christ and his angels?

Matthew 24:36 New International Version (NIV)
“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

But of course people have the right to be stupid.

 

[Subduction Zone]

What was prophesied then, of course becomes historical fact after it happens.

If you want a prophecy that is to come, I could show that too.

2 Peter 3:9-12 New International Version (NIV)
The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare.

Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat.


NOW that is not after the fact!

No, you merely reinterpreted a vague prophecy that could have been met by all sorts of future results.

By its very nature it was a failed prophecy.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Failed prophecies?

Maybe people fail to predict but what is written will be fulfilled because all of the words of God will not lose its power.

Next when people predict the time when the end of the world will happen, then that is a BIG MISTAKE and will definitely end in embarrassment to him and his followers. Next, predicting the end of the world and failing it - is the sign that they are the false prophets, giving false hopes and false news.

How can a person predict something which even the Lord Jesus Christ does not know?
How can a person predict something when even the angels in heaven do not know?
What makes this persons so special over the Lord Jesus Christ and his angels?

Matthew 24:36 New International Version (NIV)
“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

But of course people have the right to be stupid.

If you are unaware of the failed prophecies of the Bible then you have a lot of studying to do. For example there is the failed Tyre prophecy in the Old Testament. Then there was Jesus's failed prophecy of the second coming.

I think that @sooda has a more rational Christian approach to prophecy. They are not predictions of future events, they are commentaries on the times when they were written or even of events in the past.

 

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Or so the video below claims.

The List of Nine, which supposedly verify claims made in the Bible. (The narrator provides the relevant chapters and verses.)

1) A stone that confirms that Pontius Pilatus was the Prefect of Judea.

2) A tunnel was created under the city of David to carry water.

3) A clay cylinder describes how Sennacherib laid siege against various cities

4) A stone mentioning there was an Israelite king of the house of David.

5) A stone cites Omri as the king of Israel.

6) The remnants of a house was found that verifies the town of Nazareth existed in the first century AD.

7) A clay cylinder recounts Cyrus II declaration of human rights

8) The discovery of the pool of Siloam

9) A stone tablet shows the existence of the Hittites


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Of course our young presenter in the video conveniently ignores all the evidence that disproves the Bible's historical accuracy, but this is to be expected. When cherry picking no one ever picks the "bad" cherries.

In any case, even if all nine of the examples are true, one can only say, SO WHAT? What's so amazing (as the narrator would like the viewer to believe) about historical events showing up in the Bible? Heck, even if the Bible was a pure fabrication from Genesis to Revelation, the fabricator would certainly have been astute enough to include historical facts to make the thing appear genuine---it's why counterfeiters go to such extremes to make their money appear real. In this case it's like expecting the viewer to get excited because the Bible mentions the Mediterranean Sea, or that the Sun sets in the west. SO WHAT?

Nope, it's stupid stuff like this video that fill the believer with unjustified confidence in his faith. Do Christians really need to be duped so as to hold onto their faith? . . . . . . . . . . . . . maybe so, but it's not pretty.
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Even more incredibly, the James Bond books mention a country called 'England' and a city called 'London', and many people who have studied the matter are convinced there really are such places!!!!

 

[MJFlores]

No, you merely reinterpreted a vague prophecy that could have been met by all sorts of future results.

By its very nature it was a failed prophecy.

that is a prophecy that doesn't need any interpretation whatsoever
next I couldn't show that prophecy to you after the fact
because you or I would be unable to read it

It could happen tomorrow, next week, next month, next year or next decade
but it would happen.

so revealing [revelation] the prophecies after the fact when they have happened would be a more suitable evidence to prove the historical [as the topic starter's term] accuracy.

For example the second seal is another historical event recorded as a prophecy in the Bible:

Revelation 6:3-4 New International Version (NIV)
When the Lamb opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, “Come!” Then another horse came out, a fiery red one. Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and to make people kill each other. To him was given a large sword.

Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and to make people kill each other. This horse came out after the white horse which I have revealed in one of my post. So the event happened after the other event.

The Crusades were a series of religious wars between Christians and Muslims started primarily to secure control of holy sites considered sacred by both groups. In all, eight major Crusade expeditions occurred between 1096 and 1291. The bloody, violent and often ruthless conflicts propelled the status of European Christians, making them major players in the fight for land in the Middle East.
https://www.history.com/topics/middle-ages/crusades

This verse was written by apostle John recorded this prophecy in the Book of Revelation before 100 AD and this happened between 1096-1291 AD. History provides proof that the Bible is historically accurate and prophetic. It is too big to ignore since the event referred to is in the annals of history.

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[MJFlores]

If you are unaware of the failed prophecies of the Bible then you have a lot of studying to do. For example there is the failed Tyre prophecy in the Old Testament. Then there was Jesus's failed prophecy of the second coming.

I think that @sooda has a more rational Christian approach to prophecy. They are not predictions of future events, they are commentaries on the times when they were written or even of events in the past.

Please elucidate me on this.

 

[74x12]

Overly vague prophecies often "come true". They are of no value. Check out the prophecies of Nostradamus.

In this case the events themselves prove the supernatural. But as it is not openly happening or when it does happen openly then it's covered up; it allows people to continue to deny what is obvious to some other people.

 

[Subduction Zone]

that is a prophecy that doesn't need any interpretation whatsoever
next I couldn't show that prophecy to you after the fact
because you or I would be unable to read it

It could happen tomorrow, next week, next month, next year or next decade
but it would happen.

so revealing [revelation] the prophecies after the fact when they have happened would be a more suitable evidence to prove the historical [as the topic starter's term] accuracy.

For example the second seal is another historical event recorded as a prophecy in the Bible:

Revelation 6:3-4 New International Version (NIV)
When the Lamb opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, “Come!” Then another horse came out, a fiery red one. Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and to make people kill each other. To him was given a large sword.

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Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and to make people kill each other. This horse came out after the white horse which I have revealed in one of my post. So the event happened after the other event.

The Crusades were a series of religious wars between Christians and Muslims started primarily to secure control of holy sites considered sacred by both groups. In all, eight major Crusade expeditions occurred between 1096 and 1291. The bloody, violent and often ruthless conflicts propelled the status of European Christians, making them major players in the fight for land in the Middle East.
https://www.history.com/topics/middle-ages/crusades

This verse was written by apostle John recorded this prophecy in the Book of Revelation before 100 AD and this happened between 1096-1291 AD. History provides proof that the Bible is historically accurate and prophetic. It is too big to ignore since the event referred to is in the annals of history.

This part

That is nonsense, and belief by the fact that different Christians have different interpretations. Making it a failed prophecy.

 

[Subduction Zone]

In this case the events themselves prove the supernatural. But as it is not openly happening or when it does happen openly then it's covered up; it allows people to continue to deny what is obvious to some other people.

How so? You need more than wild claims and hand waving. And no, cover-ups do not happen that way. Conspiracies of any large number tend to fail. People talk.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Please elucidate me on this.

which part do you not understand? The Tyre prophecy fails because we know where it is today. The Bible predicted against that. Many of the prophecies in the Bible were not prophecies since they were written after the fact. They were history written as if it were prophecy.

 

[MJFlores]

That is nonsense, and belief by the fact that different Christians have different interpretations. Making it a failed prophecy.

The views and opinions expressed by the Roman Pontiff and the various Protestant leaders [List of the largest Protestant denominations - Wikipedia], do not reflect my views and opinions. I do not subscribe to their beliefs or their interpretations. You can call them "Christians" but I do not.

A Christian does not believe in the Trinity, does not celebrate pagan traditions like Christmas and Easter.

which part do you not understand? The Tyre prophecy fails because we know where it is today. The Bible predicted against that. Many of the prophecies in the Bible were not prophecies since they were written after the fact. They were history written as if it were prophecy.

Please continue, I am not familiar of your Tyre prophecy.

Tyres, I have them attached to my car and one tucked in the trunk.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The views and opinions expressed by the Roman Pontiff and the various Protestant leaders [List of the largest Protestant denominations - Wikipedia], do not reflect my views and opinions. I do not subscribe to their beliefs or their interpretations. You can call them "Christians" but I do not.

A Christian does not believe in the Trinity, does not celebrate pagan traditions like Christmas and Easter.




Please continue, I am not familiar of your Tyre prophecy.

Tyres, I have them attached to my car and one tucked in the trunk.

You are not a valid judge on who is and who is not a Christian. In fact I bet that you believe that your God lied.

And it is not my Tyre prophecy, it is a prophecy in the Bible. You should read it some day.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Actually, you're dealing with an oversimplification.

The Bible does not claim the Canaanites were completely wiped out
Canaanite DNA confirms Bible - creation.com

And as I mentioned in Joshua one group even became servants and remained.

If you'll notice prior to the discovery the Canaanites were still alive, not a single Christian or church claimed that.

"Thus Joshua struck all the land, the hill country and the Negev and the lowland and the slopes and all their kings. He left no survivor, but he utterly destroyed all who breathed, just as the Lord, the God of Israel, had commanded…. He left nothing undone of all that the Lord had commanded Moses". (Josh. 10:40, 11:15)

 

[sooda]

What was prophesied then, of course becomes historical fact after it happens.

If you want a prophecy that is to come, I could show that too.

2 Peter 3:9-12 New International Version (NIV)
The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare.

Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat.


NOW that is not after the fact!

Peter died before the Destruction of the Temple and the tribulation. He died a martyr's death in 67 AD.

The Bible doesn't say the earth will be destroyed.

Jeremiah 33:20-21 explains why Christ Rules from a Heavenly, Not Earthly, Throne

Jesus calls his kingdom the kingdom of heaven throughout the Gospels.

 

[ChristineM]

What i find interesting here, of those posts i have read (i admit i have not read every post) there are many "christians" claiming there are other proofs that cannot be explained by historical coincidence or good authorship in including actual events, places and people to give credence to the book. But from what i have seen (correct me if i am wrong) not one iota of said evidence (in the strict definition of evidence) has been offered.

 

[sooda]

Can't bear the suspense?

Revelation 6:1-2 New International Version (NIV)
I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven seals. Then I heard one of the four living creatures say in a voice like thunder, “Come!” I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.

The book of Revelation was written down by apostle John at the island of Patmos as visions after visions were shown to him by the Lord Jesus Christ and his angels. So these writings were done and completed before his death in 100 AD. The book of Revelation contains prophecies of things to happen many years after his death - some were fulfilled and some are yet to happen.

One of those prophecies which was fulfilled was the "first seal"

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In 380 CE, the emperor Theodosius issued the Edict of Thessalonica, which made Christianity, specifically Nicene Christianity, the official religion of the Roman Empire. Most other Christian sects were deemed heretical, lost their legal status, and had their properties confiscated by the Roman state.
Christianity in the Roman Empire

"and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest" White horse represents a false religion rode by a Roman Emperor [crown] with strict decrees under the penalty of death and loss of property [bow] and this kind of religion will spread throughout the empire and through out the world.

This is too big to ignore as evidence, since we could observe this ourselves.
It is just too big and proves the historical and prophetic accuracy of the Bible.

Revelation 3:21 reads, “He who conquers, I will grant to him to sit down with Me on My Throne, as I also conquered and sat down with my Father on His Throne.”

Jesus is again depicted as a conqueror in Revelation 5:5: “The Lion that is from the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has conquered so as to open the Book.” This horseman who is said to be a “conqueror bent on conquest” is Jesus Christ.

Jesus is also the lamb.

 

[sooda]

My point is the prophecy is already coming true but in such a way that will still allow some people to deny it.

You think the Revelation letter is false?

 

[sooda]

What i find interesting here, of those posts i have read (i admit i have not read every post) there are many "christians" claiming there are other proofs that cannot be explained by historical coincidence or good authorship in including actual events, places and people to give credence to the book. But from what i have seen (correct me if i am wrong) not one iota of said evidence (in the strict definition of evidence) has been offered.

The futurist interpretation of Revelation was the work of a Jesuit priest right after the Protestant Reformation that was later promoted by Darby, Cyrus Scofield and Hal Lindsey among others.