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NIV - KJV The Fowl Insect

sincerly

Well-Known Member
I ain't eating no bug anyway so this scripture is meaningless to me.
Not discoutning that as biblical scripture that has value to insect eaters I just ain't one
of them
What BIRD walks on all four "apendages" anyway?

As long as there is good food in the stores to purchase, I'll be o.k. However, I trust GOD will again feed HIS people if the need arises; and there is coming a time when one can not buy nor sell.
 

Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
What bird walks on all fours?
A hippogriff.

hippogriff.jpg
 

Kolibri

Well-Known Member
sincerly said:
The Creator GOD gave certain foods for HIS Created beings to eat. initially(Gen.1:29) it was vegetarian. Then at the end of the Flood flesh foods were added. At Sinai, Lev.11 and Deut.14 specified the flesh foods by names and categories.
Isn't it nice that the Creator GOD was so thoughtful. Now if mankind will only heed HIS choice of diet.
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Kolibri, Are you saying that GOD doesn't mean that which HE says? Are you agreeing with Satan--GOD lies?
Are the "flesh pots of Egypt" more enticing that the love and communication with the Redeemer of the world?
Gen. 9:3-5, "Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.
But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.
And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man. "
Let's look at the vegetation restrictions Gen.1:29, "And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.(food)."

That "every" was understood to bear "seed" and the animals were named as "clean"/"unclean" and Noah brought the animals aboard the Ark as pairs(either --"Clean" or "unclean").
GOD wasn't slack in HIS instructions. However, man, from Adam disregarded the Life preserving instructions of GOD for the death dealing lusts of the adversary.
Read back over Peter's vision and note that Peter did not eat and that he "doubted" what it could mean. It wasn't until the Holy Spirit was given that Peter understood the Meaning and confessed it---"Of a truth I perceive that GOD is no respecter of persons."
Hadn't Peter segregated himself from the gentiles?(Paul reprimanded)(To whom he was to spread the Gospel message to along with the rest of the Apostles?)

It is obvious that God does not lie. By his own righteous standards that becomes impossible. (Titus 1:2)

However Jehovah does change his mind when warranted. We have examples of this. One case was found in the book of Jonah. Jehovah had Jonah preach that in 40 days more Nineveh would be destroyed. But they changed their bad ways and Jehovah 'repented' in that he changed his mind because their behavior changed. Jehovah explained this type of behavior on his part in Ezekiel 33.

"And when I say to the wicked one: 'You will surely die,' and he turns away from his sin and does what is just and righteous, and the wicked one returns what was taken in pledge and pays back what was taken by robbery, and he walks in the statutes of life by not doing what is wrong, he will surely keep living. He will not die. None of the sins he committed will be held (Lit., "remembered.") against him. For doing what is just and righteous, he will surely keep living." - Eze 33:14

Did God lie when he said "you will surely die"? No. It was a warning, not an irreversible decision.

Let's look at passage dealing with the Mosaic Law covenant directly.

"Now if you will strictly obey my voice and keep my covenant, you will certainly become my special property (or "treasured possession.") out of all peoples, for the whole earth belongs to me. You will become to me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation." - Ex 19:5,6a

The levitical priesthood is gone, and has been for 1900 years. Did God lie, or did the Jews break the covenant? As far as I know, no one living today can prove their blood line back to the individual tribes of Israel, so a reestablishing of the priesthood would be impossible even if the Mosque on Mount Zion was replaced with a 3rd temple dedicated to Jehovah.

"You should know and understand that from the issuing of the word to restore and rebuild Jerusalem (455 B.C.E. see Nehemiah 2:1,5-8 [20th year of Artaxerxes]) until Messiah the Leader, there will be 7 weeks, also 62 weeks. (69 weeks of years later, 29 C.E.) She will be restored and rebuilt, with a public square and moat, but in times of distress.(The first 7 weeks, or 49 years, saw this fulfilled.) And after the 62 weeks, Messiah will be cut off, (or "put to death.") with nothing for himself. [Because of this] the people of a leader who is coming (Romans) will destroy the city and the holy place. And its end will be by the flood. (General Titus did flood Jerusalem with his troops in 70 C.E.) And until the end there will be war; what is decided upon is desolations. And [Jehovah] will keep the covenant in force for the many (the Jews) for one week (until 36 C.E. when Gentiles were anointed with holy spirit); and at half of the week, (33 C.E.) he will cause [legitimate] sacrifice and gift offering to cease. And the wing of disgusting things there will be the one causing desolation;(66 C.E. when Romans with their standards invaded Jerusalem and its temple) and until an extermination (70 C.E), what was decided on will be poured out also on the one lying desolate." - Daniel 9:24-27

“The Roman standards were guarded with religious veneration in the temples at Rome; and the reverence of this people for their ensigns was in proportion to their superiority to other nations . . . [To soldiers it] was perhaps the most sacred thing the earth possessed. The Roman soldier swore by his ensign.”—The Encyclopædia Britannica, 11th Edition.

Let's look closer at Jeremiah 31 as well.

"'Look! The days are coming,' declares Jehovah, 'when I will make with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah a new covenant. It will not be like the covenant that I made with their forefathers on the day I took hold of their hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, "my covenant that they broke, although I was their true master,"' (or possibly, "their husband.") declares Jehovah." - Jeremiah 31:31

This was not a renewed covenant but a new one. And God clearly says that the legal bond to the Law given through Moses was broken due to no fault of his own.

God did not lie. His Law covenant was broken. The Jews, more often than not, were living under the curse of the law instead of the blessing. He released them from that curse when Jesus became a curse in their place by making use of Deuteronomy 21:23 where it says "the one hung up is something accursed of God."

When Jeremiah 33:20-22 were written, it was just a year prior to Jerusalem being destroyed in 607 B.C.E. It appeared as if there would be no more kings an no more priesthood in Jerusalem. These words reassured that Jehovah had not forgotten his covenant with David, nor had he forgotten the priesthood with the tribe of Levi. And after the Jews were repatriated the Levitical priesthood would reestablish itself in Jerusalem. It was a part of the Mosaic Law. As long as that covenant was voluntarily maintained (as Jehovah was no longer legally bound to) the Levitical priesthood had to reassert itself. The covenant with David was a unilateral one however. It could not end as Jehovah never placed conditions on it regarding David's further actions. A King would have to arise again, someday.

Nothing in this says God lied. Just the opposite. Our attaching God's words about his Law lasting forever to a bilateral contract that was broken by the Jews is our misunderstanding of Scripture, not an invalidation of his written word.
 
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jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
As long as there is good food in the stores to purchase, I'll be o.k. However, I trust GOD will again feed HIS people if the need arises; and there is coming a time when one can not buy nor sell.

I have no doubt you are right and that time is closer than many think.
Ask any JW if we aren't in the "deep end times".
Might be time to develope an appitite for bugs. (gulp)
 

Kolibri

Well-Known Member
I have no doubt you are right and that time is closer than many think.
Ask any JW if we aren't in the "deep end times".
Might be time to develope an appitite for bugs. (gulp)

Even then, I'll go for vegetation first. Do not want to deal with bugs. I have my to-go bag ready though in case of emergency. And it has at least 3 days of rations to protect me from grubbing for grubs. I hope that is enough. :eek:
 
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