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No agent working on the case agreed with Comey. Wrong or the way things work?

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
The decision was obviously made because, despite Hillary's stupidity, there was no overt criminal act.
I don't know how many times I've said the same thing, usually followed by "What the hell was she thinking!!!".
 

Nous

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Perhaps Clinton should replace Comey and Lynch when she gets into office. I wouldn't have a problem with that.

The quotes in the article are kind of funny: “The FBI has politicized itself, and its reputation will suffer for a long time.” “Comey has singlehandedly ruined the reputation of the organization.” I thought J. Edgar already did that.
 

Acim

Revelation all the time
I have to disagree. The old 'follow the money' line seems pertinent. The FBI's budget must be approved by the Republican controlled Senate, and if Comey made a political decision to harm the Republicans they would crush him, and he knows it. The decision was obviously made because, despite Hillary's stupidity, there was no overt criminal act.

I observe many Republicans that are crushing Comey right about now.

The decision obviously has impacted the credibility of the FBI.
 

Acim

Revelation all the time
I don't watch propaganda channels but if that's what floats your boat, I guess that's just all fine & dandy. This is also the reason you don't ever see me quoting MSNBC.

Instead, I get my news from numerous sources, both internet and t.v. Nor do I take anything controversial at face value, which is why I use Google a lot. So, it's pretty clear which of us is more subject to propaganda versus the other.

BTW, Fox is only #1 with cable news, plus it's the only channel that caters to the lunatic-fringe on the right. :p

I'm 100% sure you tune into propaganda news outlets. And given some of what you've said on the forums, clear that you are arguably more attuned to certain propaganda. The left lunacy variety.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I'm 100% sure you tune into propaganda news outlets. And given some of what you've said on the forums, clear that you are arguably more attuned to certain propaganda. The left lunacy variety.
Ya, you can go with whatever pleases you, so I can see why you're a staunch Trump supporter.
 

Wirey

Fartist
I observe many Republicans that are crushing Comey right about now.

The decision obviously has impacted the credibility of the FBI.

Not to those of us who aren't bent on hating Hillary. The only sources presenting this as fact are the same ones who would believe Hillary held Paula Jones down while she got 'Bill-dled'.
 

whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
It does appear Comey made the decision because the decision appears contrary to the consensus of people working on it.. but... that's bad... and if his arm was twisted by the White House that's also bad

Am I wrong?
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
It does appear Comey made the decision because the decision appears contrary to the consensus of people working on it.. but... that's bad... and if his arm was twisted by the White House that's also bad

Am I wrong?
What I find interesting is FBI made a recommendation. Does the justice department have to listen? No. The justice department declined FBI's recommendation to investigate the Clinton foundation. Two different but similar areas both departments disagreed on. So as for the fbi it isn't as if they didn't want something investigated, they just thought the email stuff was dumb.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I have heard other lawyers speak on this on various channels, and all of them agreed that there simply was not enough "criminality" potentially involved to bring a case. A bad choice by Hillary, definitely; but one that raises to the level of criminal charges, apparently not. But the likes of Trump has her already tried, convicted, and should be put in prison, which I would suggest tells us much more about Trump and his supporters than it does about Hillary.
 

Acim

Revelation all the time
Latest I heard is there are around 100 agents that disagree with Comey decision and morale in that area of FBI is very low. Many are seeking work elsewhere. All are somewhat fearful regardless of outcome of election. The (2) reporters that brought this forth were told that if any FBI agent that does disagree with the decision, finds work outside the government they would be willing to then go on the record and be more vocal about why they disagree and what exactly Comey did to sabotage the investigation. Currently it would be considered suicide for any of these agents to go on the record while still employed by the FBI. I thought I heard somewhere it would actually be illegal.
 

Lighthouse

Well-Known Member
Seems that for no other reason that lying to the American people, there is a serious problem here.
"...career agents and attorneys on the case unanimously believed the Democratic presidential nominee should have been charged."


“No trial level attorney agreed, no agent working the case agreed, with the decision not to prosecute -- it was a top-down decision,” said the source, whose identity and role in the case has been verified by FoxNews.com.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-clinton-slide-by-on-emails-says-insider.html

I don't know either way. The best that I can say is that it was negligence, which could have been charged. To claim at this current time that it was either just or unjust would make one a liar. If anything, we'll have to wait and see what may come to fruition.
It isn't new news to me on how corrupt and unjust the law and politics can be, whether this pertains to Hillary I don't know. The public doesn't know either way.
I do hope that many don't allow Trumpophobia syndrome.. a new condition in which their minds won't allow them to see anything wrong or potentially wrong with Hillary, cloud their judgement on claiming to know.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
It isn't new news to me on how corrupt and unjust the law and politics can be, whether this pertains to Hillary I don't know. The public doesn't know either way.
I do hope that many don't allow Trumpophobia syndrome.. a new condition in which their minds won't allow them to see anything wrong or potentially wrong with Hillary, cloud their judgement on claiming to know.
It is Trump who is breeding a campaign of fear as if Hillary is some beast from the bible. Same fear that breeds anti-establishment. Trumps scorched earth is quite something to listen to. People that have been on the left and anti-trump aren't afraid to be anti-hillary as they were with Sanders who almost won. Everyone of them agree its far cry better than trump and much of the world agrees. When even the right starts coming out as saying enough is enough then its highly unlikely its some sort of syndrome coming from the left. The left are not the ones flip-flopping on Trump, they've been saying the same stuff for a year.
 

Lighthouse

Well-Known Member
It is Trump who is breeding a campaign of fear as if Hillary is some beast from the bible. Same fear that breeds anti-establishment. Trumps scorched earth is quite something to listen to. People that have been on the left and anti-trump aren't afraid to be anti-hillary as they were with Sanders who almost won. Everyone of them agree its far cry better than trump and much of the world agrees. When even the right starts coming out as saying enough is enough then its highly unlikely its some sort of syndrome coming from the left. The left are not the ones flip-flopping on Trump, they've been saying the same stuff for a year.

It is both, and why I don't personally allow the mental assault on my mind from either. They are both breeding hatred and that is wrong for the American people, who are already divided and not united by any means.
 

Lighthouse

Well-Known Member
It is Trump who is breeding a campaign of fear as if Hillary is some beast from the bible. Same fear that breeds anti-establishment. Trumps scorched earth is quite something to listen to. People that have been on the left and anti-trump aren't afraid to be anti-hillary as they were with Sanders who almost won. Everyone of them agree its far cry better than trump and much of the world agrees. When even the right starts coming out as saying enough is enough then its highly unlikely its some sort of syndrome coming from the left. The left are not the ones flip-flopping on Trump, they've been saying the same stuff for a year.

And the point was that people's Trumpophobia have many saying they know things when they don't. Phantom Hillary can-do-no-wrong syndrome. The left and the right are already anti-establishment.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
And the point was that people's Trumpophobia have many saying they know things when they don't. Phantom Hillary can-do-no-wrong syndrome. The left and the right are already anti-establishment.
No it's just on things trump actually says. Like things about walls and Muslims and women and pow's. People don't have to make that stuff up, he does all that stuff on his own. My point is there are plenty of people that are well aware the issues with Clinton and still say trump is he worse choice. I think you have it completely backwards, there is too much trump can do no wrong rhetoric which is what people have issue with while those trump supporters simultaneously take every opportunity to slander wrongs of Clinton.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
It is both, and why I don't personally allow the mental assault on my mind from either. They are both breeding hatred and that is wrong for the American people, who are already divided and not united by any means.
There are plenty that say that, both have issues and but Hillary is the lesser of he two "evils". While many trump supporters think nothing can be said that is wrong from trump while simultaneously calling Hillary Clinton a murderer and rape supporter. If your so unbiased hen attack the right sides double standards, I've never heard anyone say either is a saint but comparisons to hitter and the antichrist for either is a bit much.
 

Lighthouse

Well-Known Member
No it's just on things trump actually says. Like things about walls and Muslims and women and pow's. People don't have to make that stuff up, he does all that stuff on his own. My point is there are plenty of people that are well aware the issues with Clinton and still say trump is he worse choice. I think you have it completely backwards, there is too much trump can do no wrong rhetoric which is what people have issue with while those trump supporters simultaneously take every opportunity to slander wrongs of Clinton.

This thread is on Hillary and her emails and lack of any charges.
What Donald does or says has no relevance to this.

I agree with your point, however.
 

Lighthouse

Well-Known Member
There are plenty that say that, both have issues and but Hillary is the lesser of he two "evils". While many trump supporters think nothing can be said that is wrong from trump while simultaneously calling Hillary Clinton a murderer and rape supporter. If your so unbiased hen attack the right sides double standards, I've never heard anyone say either is a saint but comparisons to hitter and the antichrist for either is a bit much.

I wish not to attack anybody. Donald or Hillary, Trump supporters, or Hillary supporters.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
This thread is on Hillary and her emails and lack of any charges.
What Donald does or says has no relevance to this.

I agree with your point, however.
I wish not to attack anybody. Donald or Hillary, Trump supporters, or Hillary supporters.
Ok cause you had brought up a bunch stuff that presumably Clinton did when I had first only responded to the email thing.
 
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