Manchester 1996 IRA bombing
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"No evidence of God" = Is a bad argument against God
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Manchester 1996 IRA bombing
Well you wouldn't would you.
Humans are social animals, any social animal requires morality to be social.
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
As far as I'm concerned humans are not merely animals. So our morality comes from a different source.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
But you have no reliable evidence for that claim. Why would anyone believe it?
Luckily the human race doesn't need your concern.
Sgt. Pepper
All you need is love.
The truth is, Christians aren't morally superior to non-Christians. Christians also lie, steal, commit adultery, divorce, remarry, lust, fornicate, and watch pornography just like non-Christians. As a matter of fact, 68% of Christian men (including pastors) are addicted to pornography. It seems to me that Christians should be more concerned about the plank in their own eye before they worry about the speck of dust in the eye of a non-Christian. As the old saying goes, "Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones."
Porn Addiction Statistics
The statistics for Christian men between 18 and 30 years old are particularly striking:
- 77 percent look at pornography at least monthly.
- 36 percent view pornography on a daily basis
- 32 percent admit being addicted to pornography (and another 12 percent think they may be).
- 77 percent looked at pornography while at work in the past three months.
- 64 percent view pornography at least monthly.
- 18 percent admit being addicted to pornography (and another 8 percent think they may be).
- 55 percent look at pornography at least monthly.
- 35 percent had an extramarital affair.
Tiberius
Well-Known Member
This life is a test from the Queen of the Fairies. This life is like a school. That is the reason the Queen of the Fairies is hiding. Because if the Queen of the Fairies showed herself to all humans then this life would not have been a test anymore.
"No evidence of the Queen of the Fairies" is because of this a bad argument against the Queen of the Fairies.
I believe in the Queen of the Fairies without evidence because the Queen of the Fairies is hiding on purpose.
This is my opinion.
Any thoughts?
Koldo
Outstanding Member
Nope. It is really common and no remorse involved. It only depends on what animal we are talking about. If you are thinking of bigger animals like cows and horses, you are correct, but smaller stuff like moths, spiders, and insects in general, nope, it is really trivial for humans to kill them just because we can. It used to be really common for children to kill small birds with slingshots too.
ElishaElijah
Return
Your god is what you think.
God came to Earth, Jesus Christ, lived a perfect life, died a brutal death on the Cross, was buried, rose from the dead. Everyone who puts their trust in Him will receive the forgiveness of their sins, eternal life, the Holy Spirit who empowers us, leads us into all truth. He has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, we are seated with Him, we are His bride. I call that success and a very present help in time of need. He will never leave us or forsake us. His promises are yes and amen. No eye has seen no eat has heard the things that God has prepared for us. Thank-you Jesus for all you’ve done and are doing!
A fairy tale no more real than Greek mythology, the Epic of Gilgamesh, or ancient Egyptian beliefs.
Tell me you think human life has no inherent value without telling me you think human life has no inherent value.
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
I see the evidence in humans and their actions and words.
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
I'm talking about killing other humans.
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
I think human life has extreme value because we are spiritual beings with eternal souls. If we were just beasts, it would have little value.
Koldo
Outstanding Member
Oh, animals generally don't kill their own species though. It is pretty rare for a dog to kill another dog. So you were wrong... Just in a different way than what I originally expected.
rational experiences
Veteran Member
The reality of a human designer who caused a split mind.
The human having come out of the eternal. All created creation existed. You knew what you did know by hierarchy conscious body type and inheritance. Pretty basic assessed behaviour. Your self life. The human.
You knew as you named described anything and everything as a human claiming I inherited dominion.
Self evident.
Humans know we've all been babies by sex. Hurt you look back as say humans first evil act was sex. As if that choice hadn't been made we wouldn't be suffering every evil human choice since.
Humans live die claim conscious origin self still exists. Owns that spirit type after our body human death consciously.
Where it had never left its body type. The human had.
Meanwhile the liar theist brother who tried to give self back the eternal form caused the heavens Ai effect human image voice recording himself.
As he tried to get it given back.
So biology lives half its water bio life the other half already was given to image voice manifestation. Bio life attacked sacrificed by his machine science.
He's quite aware he did it. He theories about it knowing he did it.
That type of cause exists in the heavens until the total origin human life was ended naturally. Then it disappears.
It's just a recording.
Why psychics can contact some recordings but not all recordings.
Told exactly how and why it happened.
As humans built the machine out of earths substances. Your human bio thoughts control what you want the machine to do. It's human science only and not cosmic science.
Ask how a liar gained science ideas was when his human brain got burnt by star fall. Is the evil of human sciences theorising terms. It's notified I learnt beginnings.
I was taught by Satan the falling star said men of science.
Why numbers say you count a tissue. A box has one tissue or a hundred tissues. The number not a tissue you apply the count. You have to exist to count.
As the lying human.
So if you say a planet once self consuming mass is God. Stopped consuming then started cooling it became rock. Is not any number to a substance.
You say a heavens with a planet which has nothing to do with you human life is the other form.
Then you build own operate the machine thesis for the machine only not anywhere else. Gravitational force. As you don't own planet or heavens mass yourself.
If you asked yourself where did that idea come from. The shutting off of the old earths life destruction a tornado. The heavens body mass once sacrificed opened as pressure changed caused by human scientusts. Ownership reasoned is exact.
Space sucked up ripping everything held to earths base.
Your identification memory I was living when it happened and I also died.
The destroyer the just a human scientist. Who only owns science because of every evil past life human bully tactic ever used against family.
First it does not ever make you any correct human.
You knew how to make a conversion happen between powers hot and cold of. Just as a human. Not as some cosmic condition. Lying coercing is your forte.
A father a human a man said he owned the powers of God as a scientist. That father type rapes murders his own children.
Is the only god who does it.
As earth a planet is reactive naturally cannot be blamed for being a planet in creation.
But the father of god a man scientist can be blamed for every single evil act he ever chose against everything else is our humans teaching human to human.
The first Moses science of life attack was evidence to never do nuclear science ever again. One lesson was all it took to provide evidence human science is a liar.
The history human destroyer is only a human subject for human reasons. It's exact. The bible became a legal testimony of humans versus the scientist of God science.
No man is God the verdict. Book of science shut became a legal oath only.
Not upheld as scientists are liars exactly pre advised human chosen behaviour only. About behaviour of human egotism. Cult behaviour.
If you ask a basic life on earth question. Oxygenated water mass for bio life supports its highest healthiest life. So all life should be the same non sacrificed healthy life.
We have been Living a hurt sacrificed but saved biological life waiting for the UFO effect to be voided to inherit the recorded part of life taken from us by machine causes.
Is the teaching why the bible became a legal document.
The human having come out of the eternal. All created creation existed. You knew what you did know by hierarchy conscious body type and inheritance. Pretty basic assessed behaviour. Your self life. The human.
You knew as you named described anything and everything as a human claiming I inherited dominion.
Self evident.
Humans know we've all been babies by sex. Hurt you look back as say humans first evil act was sex. As if that choice hadn't been made we wouldn't be suffering every evil human choice since.
Humans live die claim conscious origin self still exists. Owns that spirit type after our body human death consciously.
Where it had never left its body type. The human had.
Meanwhile the liar theist brother who tried to give self back the eternal form caused the heavens Ai effect human image voice recording himself.
As he tried to get it given back.
So biology lives half its water bio life the other half already was given to image voice manifestation. Bio life attacked sacrificed by his machine science.
He's quite aware he did it. He theories about it knowing he did it.
That type of cause exists in the heavens until the total origin human life was ended naturally. Then it disappears.
It's just a recording.
Why psychics can contact some recordings but not all recordings.
Told exactly how and why it happened.
As humans built the machine out of earths substances. Your human bio thoughts control what you want the machine to do. It's human science only and not cosmic science.
Ask how a liar gained science ideas was when his human brain got burnt by star fall. Is the evil of human sciences theorising terms. It's notified I learnt beginnings.
I was taught by Satan the falling star said men of science.
Why numbers say you count a tissue. A box has one tissue or a hundred tissues. The number not a tissue you apply the count. You have to exist to count.
As the lying human.
So if you say a planet once self consuming mass is God. Stopped consuming then started cooling it became rock. Is not any number to a substance.
You say a heavens with a planet which has nothing to do with you human life is the other form.
Then you build own operate the machine thesis for the machine only not anywhere else. Gravitational force. As you don't own planet or heavens mass yourself.
If you asked yourself where did that idea come from. The shutting off of the old earths life destruction a tornado. The heavens body mass once sacrificed opened as pressure changed caused by human scientusts. Ownership reasoned is exact.
Space sucked up ripping everything held to earths base.
Your identification memory I was living when it happened and I also died.
The destroyer the just a human scientist. Who only owns science because of every evil past life human bully tactic ever used against family.
First it does not ever make you any correct human.
You knew how to make a conversion happen between powers hot and cold of. Just as a human. Not as some cosmic condition. Lying coercing is your forte.
A father a human a man said he owned the powers of God as a scientist. That father type rapes murders his own children.
Is the only god who does it.
As earth a planet is reactive naturally cannot be blamed for being a planet in creation.
But the father of god a man scientist can be blamed for every single evil act he ever chose against everything else is our humans teaching human to human.
The first Moses science of life attack was evidence to never do nuclear science ever again. One lesson was all it took to provide evidence human science is a liar.
The history human destroyer is only a human subject for human reasons. It's exact. The bible became a legal testimony of humans versus the scientist of God science.
No man is God the verdict. Book of science shut became a legal oath only.
Not upheld as scientists are liars exactly pre advised human chosen behaviour only. About behaviour of human egotism. Cult behaviour.
If you ask a basic life on earth question. Oxygenated water mass for bio life supports its highest healthiest life. So all life should be the same non sacrificed healthy life.
We have been Living a hurt sacrificed but saved biological life waiting for the UFO effect to be voided to inherit the recorded part of life taken from us by machine causes.
Is the teaching why the bible became a legal document.
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Sgt. Pepper
All you need is love.
The story of Jesus was likely plagiarized by his early followers from other religions that predate Christianity. There are a few ancient religions with similar stories of a divine man being born of a virgin, miraculously healing sick people, and being tempted by the devil before his ministry began. If you click on this link, you can read about ten other Christ-like religious figures who predate Christianity, and each of these Christ-like figures' stories is similar to what is taught about Jesus' life. Also, the story of Jesus dying for humanity and being resurrected on the third day isn't the first savior story of its kind. In fact, the life of Attis, a Greek god (1250 BCE), is very similar to the story of Jesus. For instance, Attis was born of a virgin; he was crucified on a tree; he descended into the underworld; and after three days, he was raised from the dead. If you click on this link, you can read about more similarities between Attis and Jesus.
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Tiberius
Well-Known Member
Once again, I have no idea what you are trying to say.
Given that no one responds to your posts, I think the only one here who understands what you are trying to say is you.
Bathos Logos
Active Member
You contradict yourself in this post. Here, I will demonstrate:
Note, especially the part in red, and make sure to also note what that is in reference to - that is, the form of evidence that includes the words of others either written or spoken.
Now note what you said is "the best" (which I would assume means you think it is, at least "good") evidence for God just after that:
What do you have to determine that these "Messengers" were indeed informed by or sent on a mission by God? What do you have? I would argue that you have only words yet again. And even worse here, you have only the words of one specific individual and whoever else he has convinced that his/her words are true. That's literally all you can possibly have. Unless you want to cite "feelings" you get that you suspect are also "from God" and which you might interpret are God trying to "tell you" that this Messenger is telling the truth. But even then, the only evidence you have to share with others are the words that you just admitted are a poor form of evidence.
And then you seemed so shocked that atheists inform you that these "Messengers" you want to point to are not evidence. Again... it is hearsay, and there is no way to tie their proclamations about the knowledge they hold directly to God. Even if you want to point to some scripture and say that the coming of a particular "Messenger" was heralded in the text as a form of prophecy... this is again, just words that you want to try and use to back up more words. It isn't enough for me. And I am strongly of the opinion that it shouldn't be enough for anyone.
Heyo
Veteran Member
This is a good clue to pull out this nugget again:
“The Babel fish is small, yellow and leech-like, and probably the oddest thing in the Universe. It feeds on brainwave energy received not from its own carrier but from those around it. It absorbs all unconscious mental frequencies from this brainwave energy to nourish itself with. It then excretes into the mind of its carrier a telepathic matrix formed by combining the conscious thought frequencies with the nerve signals picked up from the speech centres of the brain which has supplied them. The practical upshot of all this is that if you stick a Babel fish in your ear you can instantly understand anything said to you in any form of language. The speech patterns you actually hear decode the brainwave matrix which has been fed into your mind by your Babel fish.
Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anything so mindbogglingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen it to see it as a final and clinching proof of the non-existence of God.
The argument goes something like this: "I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."
"But," says Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED."
"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.
"Oh, that was easy," says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets killed on the next zebra crossing.”
― Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy