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No other Path to Unity but God.
- Thread starter TransmutingSoul
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CG Didymus
Veteran Member
So, never, ever will the laws given by God to Baha'u'llah ever to made the laws for all people? If so, then what good are they? Secular laws will be the main set of laws. I know you've answer this before, but it fits in this conversation very well. Because the lesser peace is not perfect. And it sounds like the most great peace will include God's laws, which I presume will be the ones given to Baha'u'llah. The no sex, drugs, alcohol etc.
Not strange at all.
You speak of peace, but to enforce your
planned theocratic version will require
conventional violence by government.
They are for the Baha'i CG. As to the what the world government will implement, only in time will that be known.
So a future may see a majority embrace the Baha'i Faith, but we will not be here.
Regards Tony
It has much to do with you...it's your proposal.
Rubbish, that has never and I repeat never been offered
Ignore time.
Regards Tony
I value my preferences more than unity.
I like tough questions. They can cause discomfort.
My mistake then for inferring that you advocate what's
proffered in the OP. But you sure seemed both
knowledgeable & positive about it.
lukethethird
unknown member
If religious unity means throwing all the non-conformists in jail, I don't want any part of it.
ppp
Well-Known Member
Force is implicit in enforcing so-called unity.
joe1776
Well-Known Member
Example: The Jehovah's Witnesses interpret the Bible's commandment as an absolute rule. To them, killing is always a sin. Give them the facts of a killing in a clear case of self-defense and they will hesitate but insist the act was sinful. To JWs, the Bible is their moral authority. They ignore their conscience which is telling them that the act was not wrong.
Note also in this example that it is the reasoning minds of the JWs which interprets the Bible. It is their reasoning minds which create a bias that sends the correct judgment off course.
None of the above. What we call "morality" might actually be survival instincts because the judgments of conscience are well-aligned with the reduction of evil killers in the gene pool. But, I'm just speculating, of course.
I meant that you introduced them into this discussion.
Cultural biases like the one you point out have been disappearing gradually. Back in 1860, half the world had abolished legal slavery and the other half had not. But by 2000, all the nations of the world had abolished it. I expect the equality of women will follow the same route.
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CG Didymus
Veteran Member
BAHA'O'LLAH unsealed the holy books and revealed laws through which mankind can attain to a high state of spiritual civilization. These new laws will go into effect after the great readjustment, when wars, cataclysms, famine, labor troubles, etc., have done their work of equalization!
‘Abdu’l-Bahá, Divine Philosophy, p. 7
So, supposedly, we have a fresh set of laws from God, but they are just for Baha'is and not in effect until after the "great readjustment"? So, instead of God's laws, we're going to have some world government that makes up a bunch of laws that the majority of the people agree to? Again, what could go wrong?‘Abdu’l-Bahá, Divine Philosophy, p. 7
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CG Didymus
Veteran Member
Here's one thing I found...
It is true that Bahá'ís are not pacifists since we uphold the use of force in the service of justice and upholding law. But we do not believe that war is ever necessary and its abolition is one of the essential purposes and brightest promises of Bahá'u'lláh's revelation. His specific command to the kings of the earth is: "Should any one among you take up arms against another, rise ye all against him, for this is naught but manifest justice." (Tablet to Queen Victoria, "The Proclamation of Bahá'u'lláh", p. 13) The beloved Guardian has explained that the unity of mankind implies the establishment of a world commonwealth, a world federal system, "...liberated from the curse of war and its miseries in which Force is made the servant of Justice..." whose world executive "backed by an international Force,...will safeguard the organic unity of the whole commonwealth." This is obviously not war but the maintenance of law and order on a world scale. Warfare is the ultimate tragedy of disunity among nations where no international authority exists powerful enough to restrain them from pursuing their own limited interests. Bahá'ís therefore ask to serve their countries in non-combatant ways during such fighting; they will doubtless serve in such an international Force as Bahá'u'lláh envisions, whenever it comes into being.
(11 September 1984 to an individual believer)
Apparently that is what you want to see, why not look toward the benefits, what will go right!
Regards Tony
ppp
Well-Known Member
Apparently that is what you want to see, why not protect humanity from your obvious road to totalitarian rule?
Because it is not based on injustice or violence. The details are yet to be known, but we can have some idea, as the League of Nations and then the current United Nations are but stepping stones to what will unfold.
Regards Tony