Luciferi Baphomet
Lucifer, is my Liberator
When someone dies.
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No overwhelming historical proof: Why I doubt Jesus
- Thread starter columbus
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There are many different translations but most of them are in harmony. The stories usually match and there are also other sources apart from the Bible which basically agree.
What....that doesn't even make sense.
Read it again. God is saving his people.
That isn't always clear.
That's why we have modern episodes of "near death experiences" and comatose patients revived after they were presumed dead. People just didn't know that much 2000 years ago.
Tom
I have read the Bible. I also know a good bit about the history of Christendom and modern believers.
Tom
Luciferi Baphomet
Lucifer, is my Liberator
- (Deuteronomy 22:20-21) Kill women who are not virgins on their wedding night: “But suppose the man’s accusations are true, and he can show that she was not a virgin. The woman must be taken to the door of her father’s home, and there the man of the town must stone her the death, for she has committed a disgraceful crime in Israel by being promiscuous while living in her parents’ home. In this way, you will purge this evil from among you.”
Luciferi Baphomet
Lucifer, is my Liberator
How do you know that god is saving his people?
Then I'm sorry to tell you that you are so very wrong about the bible and What it means. How do you truly expect to understand something if your perspective of the thing is to prove it wrong.
If you have a broken leg do you go to the dentist or to a orthopedic Dr.. Same with the bible. Read books from people like CS Lewis and then make your decision.
He saved me.
Luciferi Baphomet
Lucifer, is my Liberator
So they were actually dead?
Luciferi Baphomet
Lucifer, is my Liberator
Explain how.
First this is in the OT. And we no longer live by the law but by grace.
So you can ridicule it. You still would not understand
Luciferi Baphomet
Lucifer, is my Liberator
The OT is old history then?
Luciferi Baphomet
Lucifer, is my Liberator
I have read comments of christians saying that he made then pure again, saved them from them sinning, gave them a good life, etc.
Yes its history but the principles still apply. But even though we commit any of these laws we still will go to heaven. The only sin that is not forgiven according to the bible is denying the Holy Spirit.
Luciferi Baphomet
Lucifer, is my Liberator
- What about jesus being old history?
- Denying the holy spirit is a sin? Good. I deny it every day.
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oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Your making it all up, to suit, as you go along! That's cheating! Jesus used a great deal of force when he cleared the traders and dealers out, and you don't seem to get why he did this.
The only proper sacrifices at the passover were lambs, not doves, and the enforcing of Jews to change their local money into Temple money was (probably) an ideal taxation point for nice Roman return.
And you can't picket an entire Temple court from entry using just charm.
Further, Jesus asked his disciples to sell personal items and arm themselves.
Further, a man called Jesus SonoftheFather took part in or lead a huge riot in or around the Temple that very same week, murdering a person, and I often wonder 'who was who'.