No to Fake Meat

[Secret Chief]

Dogs and cats have been shown in many cases to miss their owners after an owner passes away, travels, etc. Whether they would behave the same way with another owner is beside the point; you said that a dog doesn't love its owner, which is demonstrably incorrect.

They have a dog.

 

[Secret Chief]

You also don't think dogs have the ability to reason?
They have frontal lobes, I assure you, they are capable of reasoning and decision making.

Have you never interacted with another animal in your entire life?

They have a dog.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Show me how your dog reasons and show me a product of his imagination. I'll wait here.

Yeah, and how come that matters to you? Well, it matters because of your emotions.
There is not in how a human acts that makes it a person. That is a value judgment in you and not a fact.

 

[Ignatius A]

And people who love you could behave so towards other humans. So they don't really love you, as they could behave so towards other humans.

They could behave like they love others but humans can pretend. Dogs can't.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I'm not conflating anything they are inexorably attached. The push for EVs is strictly related to climate change. For decades we gave heard how cow flatulence contributes to greenhouse gases. Please stop pretending that there is an agenda being pushed.

And btw I stop taking you seriously when you try and equate human animals to other animals. That emotional silliness is to be rightfully ignored.

You appear to be very confused. I was not the one that made that equivocation. And your post on AGW is rather odd. You almost seem to be both accepting it and denying it.

 

[Secret Chief]

Show me how your dog reasons and show me a product of his imagination. I'll wait here.

I find it hard to believe you share your life with a dog. I wonder if the dog knows that you do not love it.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Dogs and cats have been shown in many cases to miss their owners after an owner passes away, travels, etc. Whether they would behave the same way with another owner is beside the point; you said that a dog doesn't love its owner, which is demonstrably incorrect.

Once when I was a teen I went away on a school trip for about a month. My mother and sister told me that for every single day I was gone, our dog would sit outside my room all day long looking for me, whimpering a little and awaiting my return. They had to force her to eat and go outside to do her bathroom business.

Anyone who has ever interacted with a dog on just about any level can clearly see they have feelings and emotions and are capable of feeling and expressing love.

 

[The Hammer]

I didn't say love. Read it again. Goodness gracious you people are hilarious.

*dodge duck dip dive and.... dodge*

You're missing the point. They have and express emotions, just because they would do so towards another person negates nothing.

 

[Ignatius A]

Which just goes to show that dogs, like a lot of animals including humans, are capable of feeling and expressing love.

No that's you anthropomorphizing their behavior

 

[Ignatius A]

You appear to be very confused. I was not the one that made that equivocation. And your post on AGW is rather odd. You almost seem to be both accepting it and denying it.

No. Show how.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

They could behave like they love others but humans can pretend. Dogs can't.

I will leave this line of reasoning.

 

[SkepticThinker]

I didn't say love. Read it again. Goodness gracious you people are hilarious. It's almost as if I called your mother a dirty name b cause in suggested your dog doesnt love you.

Here's a hint: Try an actual response to the content of the post rather than wasting your time trying to come up with lame insults.
Conversation is more productive that way.

 

[Ignatius A]

I find it hard to believe you share your life with a dog. I wonder if the dog knows that you do not love it.

I do but I don't anthropomorphize his behavior. I feed him, shelter him, play with him talk him hunting. He doesnt care if I love how him.

 

[SkepticThinker]

No that's you anthropomorphizing their behavior

Nope.

I know how brains work. I know what love looks like.

 

[Subduction Zone]

No. Show how.

Please be clearer. I was not the one that claimed that animals were people. You got confused some how.

 

[Secret Chief]

Show me how your dog reasons

You are with a dog, have had others and yet you think you are making a ridiculous request. Weird. Higher mammals can't reason? Sure about that?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

I do but I don't anthropomorphize his behavior. I feed him, shelter him, play with him talk him hunting. He doesnt care if I love how him.

Can you rephrase that?

 

[Ignatius A]

I will leave this line of reasoning.

That's a good choice. Human people can pretend. Dogs can't. Think that's concludes our discussion

 

[Debater Slayer]

Once when I was a teen I went away on a school trip for about a month. My mother and sister told me that for every single day I was gone, our dog would sit outside my room all day long looking for me, whimpering a little and awaiting my return. They had to force her to eat and go outside to do her bathroom business.

Anyone who has ever interacted with a dog on just about any level can clearly see they have feelings and emotions and are capable of feeling and expressing love.

I befriended a cat during military service who would roam the unit and wait for me outside the barracks every morning, following me to the cafeteria where we ate together. When we allowed him inside the barracks a couple of times, he jumped on my bed out of all of the others in there and lay on it next to me.

I find it confusing more than anything that someone who has interacted with dogs or cats would say that they're incapable of displaying love; that notion can be demonstrated to be incorrect extremely easily.

 

[Secret Chief]

I love how him.

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