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Noah and his Ark - Believe it or Not?

Do you believe the story of the flood and Noah's Ark?

  • Yes, I believe the story of the flood and Noah's Ark

    Votes: 38 33.0%
  • No, I don't believe the story of the flood and Noah's Ark

    Votes: 62 53.9%
  • I'm not sure

    Votes: 7 6.1%
  • Who cares?!

    Votes: 8 7.0%

  • Total voters
    115

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
I personally agree with Holly, Deut and Scott's responses on the first page of this thread ;
but this does raise a question in my mind that I should tackle on a different thread; I hope to do so today.:)
 

true blood

Active Member
Firecat89 said:
There is too much that does not make sense... furthermore I don't even know why this should be recognized as a story, it puts God down in so many ways. It makes him out to be this child that decides he's going to take everyone down with him: instead of using his powers to help, he thinks destruction will help. Not wise.
Too early to make a judgement. Let's wait until the end of things. It's been like 5 days since that happened. (God's time)
 

Pah

Uber all member
true blood said:
Too early to make a judgement. Let's wait until the end of things. It's been like 5 days since that happened. (God's time)
Too early? Do you think there will be new evidence?
 

true blood

Active Member
Of course I do. New technology, new ways of thinking, maybe new facts. Alot can happen in another 1000 years. This debate is nothing new. It's been going on thousands of years all over the world. It's not like the case is closed. If this God does exist then all information, folklore, myths etc.. will be cleared up at the end time. I agree there is zilch hard evidence but there suppose to be with dealing with God? The story is not there to make you believe. It's there for those who do believe. It's not like someone video taped the event. The event probably happened and the story was passed down generation after generation and so on in song and story all over the planet, perhaps other planets with other lifeform experienced a major event at the same time and they have their own stories. The scriptures say that Moses recieved the knowledge(err, truth of the knowledge) via revelation of God and he wrote it down or maybe he spoke to his brother about it and his bro wrote it down. Could of been like five words.
 

Doc

Space Chief
anders said:
To whittle this down to the seven days used to get all the animals on the ark, all the animals would have to move at at about 71 mph.
Those must have been some fast turtles!:jiggy:
 

Melody

Well-Known Member
Doc said:
Those must have been some fast turtles!:jiggy:
Tortoises are slow. Turtles are fast. We have 4 and when I have to take them out of their tank for a complete tank scrub down they can boogy across the floor pretty fast. Not as fast as the ferret....but close :D
 

Janeth

New Member
People have been trying to disprove the Bible forever. So far not one single thing has been disproved. So I agree, we should just limit his abilities.
 

Pah

Uber all member
Janeth said:
People have been trying to disprove the Bible forever. So far not one single thing has been disproved. So I agree, we should just limit his abilities.
It has been proven that humans do not live to 900 years and "creation" was not completed in 6 days. It has been proven that there is no firmament from which the "waters" above the firmament flooded the earth.
 

Master Vigil

Well-Known Member
Janeth said:
People have been trying to disprove the Bible forever. So far not one single thing has been disproved. So I agree, we should just limit his abilities.
People have also been trying to prove the bible forever. So far, no more has been proven than has been unproven. And history doesn't count. And to say it must be true because it hasn't been proved wrong yet is a logical fallacy.
 

t3gah

Well-Known Member
true blood said:
The story is not there to make you believe. It's there for those who do believe.
Jesus said to examine everything. "Those who believe" without questioning need to reexamine themselves and the scriptures because Jesus couldn't have been wrong. And when I say "the scriptures", I don't mean bibles. There are way too many bibles that have been tainted with translator personal viewpoints corrupting the translations.

If you believe without questions you are like the person Jesus was talking about and you are a blind person and those that follow you are blind. Jesus said both would fall into the pit.
 

shesha

Member
i dont believe it at all, i have the same questions as robtex, theres no way he could have built a boat that big and fit all those animals, i saw a documentary on it and they did a 3d version of the boat on the computer and a scientist said that he couldnt have made a boat that big because he would have used wood and the boat would have fallen apart in the water within the first week of the flood.
 

Doc

Space Chief
Melody said:
Tortoises are slow. Turtles are fast. We have 4 and when I have to take them out of their tank for a complete tank scrub down they can boogy across the floor pretty fast. Not as fast as the ferret....but close :D
My mistake. I should have known. I have three males of my own. One 3toed and 2 Texas Orante. Doc is the 3 toed of whom I dedicated my username to. Luke is kind of old and slow but the other Orante Z-Man is lightening fast!:woohoo:

Anyway, I am sure they could have ridden the waves of the flood. Doc is a good swimmer.;)
 

Ciscokid

Well-Known Member
I'm not sure what the animals would have eaten when they disembarked the ark. The soil had been underwater for 2/3 of a year....I don't think there was a whole lot of vegetation to eat.

What did the carinvores eat? Some people have suggested carion [dead animals] but there is one major flaw in that argument. Think about the defense behaviour of the possum....it plays "dead"...that seems to work well against predators doesn't it? Predators usually don't eat things already dead.

The Noahic flood story is simply that....a story....well IMO.

Another problem is the speed of evolution is simply not that fast. We don't get foxes and jackals from two dogs in a few thousand years...even Darwin wouldn't have that kind of faith in evolution.
 

joeboonda

Well-Known Member
II Peter 3:3-6 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. For this they willingly are ignorant of (dumb on purpose), that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water; Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water perished.

There is more evidence for a world wide flood than for evolution. The animals did not have to be adults, they needed no plants, seeds still survived the flood, everything about the story is true. God promised not to flood the world again, he is not a liar, small floods would make him a liar if it was a local flood. It was a global flood, Noah and his family being the sole survivors. There are excellent resources out there that show how the ark and the animals, the flood, and everything fit together. Peter said in the last days people would not believe it, well, I believe it, I been to the Grand Canyon, and that thing is huge, it was not made by erosion, that was due to a catastrophic flood. You christians, should believe what the Bible says, what God says, it says what it says, that God flooded the world and promised not to do it again, you call him a liar saying it was local or a myth, God's word says it, I will take God's word.
Sincerely,
Joeboonda
 

JerryL

Well-Known Member
There is more evidence for a world wide flood than for evolution.
There's no support what-so-ever for a world-wide flood. How can evolution have less than zero support?
 

joeboonda

Well-Known Member
I won't debate it, I am simply stating what I, through my research have come to believe. I see more evidence for a catastrophic global flood than I do for evolution. I know others feel the evidence backs a different view, that is fine, I am just saying what I have come to understand.
 
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