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Non-Christians From Jesus Era Confirmed His Earthly Existence

Alter2Ego

Member
ALTER2EGO -to- EVERYONE:

Below are the names of NON-CHRISTIANS who were born in the First Century AD when Jesus lived and died. All of the non-Christians provided were (1) people in powerful positions, (2) they were born in the same century in which Jesus lived and died, (3) they had no sympathy for Christians, and (4) they had nothing to gain from mentioning CHRIST in their writings. Therefore, their mention of CHRIST in their writings is all the more credible.

PERSON #1:
NAME and OCCUPATION: Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Historian

DOB to DATE OF DEATH: A.D. 55 to A.D. 120

ATTITUDE TOWARDS CHRISTIANITY: Hostile

WHAT HE SAID: He confirmed that CHRISTUS (a common misspelling of Christ at the time) was executed by Pilate.

HIGHLIGHTS ON TACITUS: A Roman historian who lived through the reign of over a half-dozen Roman emperors, Tacitus has been called "the greatest historian of ancient Rome."


PERSON #2:
NAME and OCCUPATION: Flavius Josephus, Jewish Historian

DOB to DATE OF DEATH: 37 AD -- Died after 100 AD

ATTITUDE TOWARDS CHRISTIANITY: Apathetic (could care less about them)

WHAT HE SAID: He confirmed that Christ who performed miracles was executed by Pilate.

HIGHLIGHTS ON JOSEPHUS: A Jewish historian of priestly and royal ancestry who recorded Jewish history, with special emphasis on the 1st century AD (the century in which Jesus Christ lived and died). He has been credited by many as recording some of the earliest history of Jesus Christ outside of the gospels. Flavius Josephus belonged to the group of Jewish religious leaders--the Pharisees--responsible for Jesus' death.


PERSON #3:
NAME and OCCUPATION: Plimy The Younger (born Gaius Plinius Caecilius Secundus), Roman Governor

DOB to DATE OF DEATH: 61 AD to 112 AD

ATTITUDE TOWARDS CHRISTIANITY: Hostile. He executed Christians

WHAT HE SAID: Referred to Christ as a "god of the Christians."

HIGHLIGHTS ON JOSEPHUS: Plimy condemned Men, Women, and children to death if they refused to curse Christ and if they refused to deny they were Christians.
 
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McBell

Unbound
ALTER2EGO -to- EVERYONE:

Below are the names of NON-CHRISTIANS who were born in the First Century AD when Jesus lived and died. All of the non-Christians provided were (1) people in powerful positions, (2) they were born in the same century in which Jesus lived and died, (3) they had no sympathy for Christians, and (4) they had nothing to gain from mentioning CHRIST in their writings. Therefore, their mention of CHRIST in their writings is all the more credible.

PERSON #1:

NAME and OCCUPATION: Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Historian

DOB to DATE OF DEATH: A.D. 55 to A.D. 120

ATTITUDE TOWARDS CHRISTIANITY: Hostile

WHAT HE SAID: He confirmed that CHRISTUS (a common misspelling of Christ at the time) was executed by Pilate.

HIGHLIGHTS ON TACITUS: A Roman historian who lived through the reign of over a half-dozen Roman emperors, Tacitus has been called "the greatest historian of ancient Rome."


PERSON #2:

NAME and OCCUPATION: Flavius Josephus, Jewish Historian

DOB to DATE OF DEATH: 37 AD -- Died after 100 AD

ATTITUDE TOWARDS CHRISTIANITY: Apathetic (could care less about them)

WHAT HE SAID: He confirmed that Christ who performed miracles was executed by Pilate.

HIGHLIGHTS ON JOSEPHUS: A Jewish historian of priestly and royal ancestry who recorded Jewish history, with special emphasis on the 1st century AD (the century in which Jesus Christ lived and died). He has been credited by many as recording some of the earliest history of Jesus Christ outside of the gospels. Flavius Josephus belonged to the group of Jewish religious leaders--the Pharisees--responsible for Jesus' death.


PERSON #3:

NAME and OCCUPATION: Plimy The Younger (born Gaius Plinius Caecilius Secundus), Roman Governor

DOB to DATE OF DEATH: A.D. 55 to A.D. 120

ATTITUDE TOWARDS CHRISTIANITY: Hostile. He executed Christians

WHAT HE SAID: Referred to Christ as a "god of the Christians."

HIGHLIGHTS ON JOSEPHUS: Plimy condemned Men, Women, and children to death if they refused to curse Christ and if they refused to deny they were Christians.
I wonder how many message boards one has to copy paste the exact same thing to before it is considered spam?
 

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
ALTER2EGO -to- EVERYONE:

Below are the names of NON-CHRISTIANS who were born in the First Century AD when Jesus lived and died. All of the non-Christians provided were (1) people in powerful positions, (2) they were born in the same century in which Jesus lived and died, (3) they had no sympathy for Christians, and (4) they had nothing to gain from mentioning CHRIST in their writings. Therefore, their mention of CHRIST in their writings is all the more credible.

PERSON #1:
NAME and OCCUPATION: Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Historian

DOB to DATE OF DEATH: A.D. 55 to A.D. 120

ATTITUDE TOWARDS CHRISTIANITY: Hostile

WHAT HE SAID: He confirmed that CHRISTUS (a common misspelling of Christ at the time) was executed by Pilate.

HIGHLIGHTS ON TACITUS: A Roman historian who lived through the reign of over a half-dozen Roman emperors, Tacitus has been called "the greatest historian of ancient Rome."


PERSON #2:
NAME and OCCUPATION: Flavius Josephus, Jewish Historian

DOB to DATE OF DEATH: 37 AD -- Died after 100 AD

ATTITUDE TOWARDS CHRISTIANITY: Apathetic (could care less about them)

WHAT HE SAID: He confirmed that Christ who performed miracles was executed by Pilate.

HIGHLIGHTS ON JOSEPHUS: A Jewish historian of priestly and royal ancestry who recorded Jewish history, with special emphasis on the 1st century AD (the century in which Jesus Christ lived and died). He has been credited by many as recording some of the earliest history of Jesus Christ outside of the gospels. Flavius Josephus belonged to the group of Jewish religious leaders--the Pharisees--responsible for Jesus' death.


PERSON #3:
NAME and OCCUPATION: Plimy The Younger (born Gaius Plinius Caecilius Secundus), Roman Governor

DOB to DATE OF DEATH: A.D. 55 to A.D. 120

ATTITUDE TOWARDS CHRISTIANITY: Hostile. He executed Christians

WHAT HE SAID: Referred to Christ as a "god of the Christians."

HIGHLIGHTS ON JOSEPHUS: Plimy condemned Men, Women, and children to death if they refused to curse Christ and if they refused to deny they were Christians.
Therefore?
 

Alter2Ego

Member
I wonder how many message boards one has to copy paste the exact same thing to before it is considered spam?

This is the first and only time I put this info on this particular website. SPAM refers to posting the same thing, in different threads, on the same website. Or didn't you know that?
 

Alter2Ego

Member
I suspect that it is the over sized font.
Makes a person wonder what they are trying to make up for....

I use Font #3, which is hardly oversized as it's only one size up from the default of Font #2. I prefer Font #3 because it's easier on my eyes. Unless you can show me where the forum rules say I cannot use Font #3, your complaint lacks merit. You debated me in another thread and have now become hostile because you didn't win the debate.
 

Circle_One

Well-Known Member
For future reference, it's PliNy the Younger, not PliMy.

Also, he was born in 61 AD and died in 112 AD. Facts. They're good to know.

It kills me when people talk about non-Christians that persecuted and killed Christians. What about the thousands of people that have been murdered in Christ's name?
 

fallingblood

Agnostic Theist
For future reference, it's PliNy the Younger, not PliMy.

Also, he was born in 61 AD and died in 112 AD. Facts. They're good to know.

It kills me when people talk about non-Christians that persecuted and killed Christians. What about the thousands of people that have been murdered in Christ's name?

I would agree that some Christians over exaggerate the supposed persecution of Christians. I think that is mainly they don't know to what extent it was, and really have no historical background in it.

However, I don't think that just because they later persecuted others erases that they were persecuted. Especially since, at least in the beginning, they persecuted those who had for persecuted them. I just think it is a slippery slope.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
I use Font #3, which is hardly oversized as it's only one size up from the default of Font #2. I prefer Font #3 because it's easier on my eyes. Unless you can show me where the forum rules say I cannot use Font #3, your complaint lacks merit. You debated me in another thread and have now become hostile because you didn't win the debate.

Yes, well there is that. I use a tool to enlarge the fonts on web sites.

Still it gives the perception of shouting. So thanks for explaining.
 

mycorrhiza

Well-Known Member
None of these people lived during Jesus' lifetime. I have no doubts that the historical Jesus did exist and that people perceived him as a miracle worker, but people who were born after he died probably aren't the best source.
 
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