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Nothing lasts forever in this life

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Nothing lasts forever in this life. Our life in this world is all about change and we can count on change, whether we like it or not. What is here today might last for a while but eventually it will be gone. Some people experience more happiness than other people but their happiness is not guaranteed to last forever as it could turn to sorrow overnight.

“O thou seeker of the Kingdom! Thy letter was received. Thou hast written of the severe calamity that hath befallen thee—the death of thy respected husband. That honourable man hath been so subjected to the stress and strain of this world that his greatest wish was for deliverance from it. Such is this mortal abode: a storehouse of afflictions and suffering. It is ignorance that binds man to it, for no comfort can be secured by any soul in this world, from monarch down to the most humble commoner.”
Selections From the Writings of ‘Abdu’l-Bahá, p. 200

Such is the nature of this material world. Nothing lasts forever, so this world cannot be relied upon for permanent happiness. We might be very happy with a new car or a new house but eventually there will be problems. We might be happy with a new job we got, but it will not last forever, it will end when we retire. We might be happily enjoying retirement years but that will eventually end, as nothing lasts forever.

I am not suggesting that people should not enjoy what the material world has to offer but I see a certain danger in becoming attached to anything that is impermanent because it will ultimately end and then what will we have at the end of this life?

We might be very happy in a marriage, but about half of all marriages end in divorce. Even if it does not end in divorce eventually it will end, as physical death will surely tear it asunder. No matter how much people try not to think about it, one or the other of the spouses is going to die first and leave the other behind. All living things will die eventually, and that includes our beloved animal friends. The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away. :(

Much as I often feel that physical death is a cruel act of God, I accept physical death as an unavoidable reality of life in this physical world, and I also see it as an opportunity for new beginnings. Since this physical life has to go until it ends, I believe we should try to make the best of the time we have in this world.

Man is said to die when the respiration of the lungs and the beatings of the heart cease, but I do not believe that the man actually dies. He is merely separated from the bodily part that was of use to him in this world, while the man himself continues to live. The man continues to live since man is not a man because of his body but because of his spirit (soul). It is the spirit that thinks in man, and thoughts and feelings are what constitutes man. The death of man is merely his passing from this physical world into the spiritual world, where the man takes on a spiritual body and continues to live forever.

Thus, I do not believe that physical death is the end of life. It is only the end of this physical life, but it is the beginning of a new life in the spiritual world.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Nothing lasts forever in this life. Our life in this world is all about change and we can count on change, whether we like it or not. What is here today might last for a while but eventually it will be gone. Some people experience more happiness than other people but their happiness is not guaranteed to last forever as it could turn to sorrow overnight.

“O thou seeker of the Kingdom! Thy letter was received. Thou hast written of the severe calamity that hath befallen thee—the death of thy respected husband. That honourable man hath been so subjected to the stress and strain of this world that his greatest wish was for deliverance from it. Such is this mortal abode: a storehouse of afflictions and suffering. It is ignorance that binds man to it, for no comfort can be secured by any soul in this world, from monarch down to the most humble commoner.”
Selections From the Writings of ‘Abdu’l-Bahá, p. 200

Such is the nature of this material world. Nothing lasts forever, so this world cannot be relied upon for permanent happiness. We might be very happy with a new car or a new house but eventually there will be problems. We might be happy with a new job we got, but it will not last forever, it will end when we retire. We might be happily enjoying retirement years but that will eventually end, as nothing lasts forever.

I am not suggesting that people should not enjoy what the material world has to offer but I see a certain danger in becoming attached to anything that is impermanent because it will ultimately end and then what will we have at the end of this life?

We might be very happy in a marriage, but about half of all marriages end in divorce. Even if it does not end in divorce eventually it will end, as physical death will surely tear it asunder. No matter how much people try not to think about it, one or the other of the spouses is going to die first and leave the other behind. All living things will die eventually, and that includes our beloved animal friends. The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away. :(

Much as I often feel that physical death is a cruel act of God, I accept physical death as an unavoidable reality of life in this physical world, and I also see it as an opportunity for new beginnings. Since this physical life has to go until it ends, I believe we should try to make the best of the time we have in this world.

Man is said to die when the respiration of the lungs and the beatings of the heart cease, but I do not believe that the man actually dies. He is merely separated from the bodily part that was of use to him in this world, while the man himself continues to live. The man continues to live since man is not a man because of his body but because of his spirit (soul). It is the spirit that thinks in man, and thoughts and feelings are what constitutes man. The death of man is merely his passing from this physical world into the spiritual world, where the man takes on a spiritual body and continues to live forever.

Thus, I do not believe that physical death is the end of life. It is only the end of this physical life, but it is the beginning of a new life in the spiritual world.
Fully agree with every word you said.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
I disagree. I love my husband forever. :)
I did not say that love doesn't last forever.
I will also love my husband forever. Love is eternal.

I meant that materially derived happiness does not last forever, but love is not materially derived, it is an emanation from the soul, which is eternal.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
There is no suggestion of evidence that electrons decay. As far as we can tell, they are 'eternal'.
 
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osgart

Nothing my eye, Something for sure
Nothing lasts forever in this life. Our life in this world is all about change and we can count on change, whether we like it or not. What is here today might last for a while but eventually it will be gone. Some people experience more happiness than other people but their happiness is not guaranteed to last forever as it could turn to sorrow overnight.

“O thou seeker of the Kingdom! Thy letter was received. Thou hast written of the severe calamity that hath befallen thee—the death of thy respected husband. That honourable man hath been so subjected to the stress and strain of this world that his greatest wish was for deliverance from it. Such is this mortal abode: a storehouse of afflictions and suffering. It is ignorance that binds man to it, for no comfort can be secured by any soul in this world, from monarch down to the most humble commoner.”
Selections From the Writings of ‘Abdu’l-Bahá, p. 200

Such is the nature of this material world. Nothing lasts forever, so this world cannot be relied upon for permanent happiness. We might be very happy with a new car or a new house but eventually there will be problems. We might be happy with a new job we got, but it will not last forever, it will end when we retire. We might be happily enjoying retirement years but that will eventually end, as nothing lasts forever.

I am not suggesting that people should not enjoy what the material world has to offer but I see a certain danger in becoming attached to anything that is impermanent because it will ultimately end and then what will we have at the end of this life?

We might be very happy in a marriage, but about half of all marriages end in divorce. Even if it does not end in divorce eventually it will end, as physical death will surely tear it asunder. No matter how much people try not to think about it, one or the other of the spouses is going to die first and leave the other behind. All living things will die eventually, and that includes our beloved animal friends. The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away. :(

Much as I often feel that physical death is a cruel act of God, I accept physical death as an unavoidable reality of life in this physical world, and I also see it as an opportunity for new beginnings. Since this physical life has to go until it ends, I believe we should try to make the best of the time we have in this world.

Man is said to die when the respiration of the lungs and the beatings of the heart cease, but I do not believe that the man actually dies. He is merely separated from the bodily part that was of use to him in this world, while the man himself continues to live. The man continues to live since man is not a man because of his body but because of his spirit (soul). It is the spirit that thinks in man, and thoughts and feelings are what constitutes man. The death of man is merely his passing from this physical world into the spiritual world, where the man takes on a spiritual body and continues to live forever.

Thus, I do not believe that physical death is the end of life. It is only the end of this physical life, but it is the beginning of a new life in the spiritual world.

Hi Trailblazer! ,. Nothing lasts forever but the material world perhaps. I think existence has a cosmic imperative though, and created life is all part of that. I'm not with the God thing still. Evolution or not, life is important, and perhaps forever so. If it's forever than I hope it's not bound to this universe. I'm not happy about losing faculties because of the brain, but perhaps that's temporary.

I often get the feeling this is all there is and their ain't no more. Yet logic , my logic, still leads me to believe that the mystery of existence is a grande one, and not a dud that fizzles out. So I got one feeling, but am convinced of something totally different than what I feel.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Nothing lasts forever in this life. Our life in this world is all about change and we can count on change, whether we like it or not. What is here today might last for a while but eventually it will be gone. Some people experience more happiness than other people but their happiness is not guaranteed to last forever as it could turn to sorrow overnight.

“O thou seeker of the Kingdom! Thy letter was received. Thou hast written of the severe calamity that hath befallen thee—the death of thy respected husband. That honourable man hath been so subjected to the stress and strain of this world that his greatest wish was for deliverance from it. Such is this mortal abode: a storehouse of afflictions and suffering. It is ignorance that binds man to it, for no comfort can be secured by any soul in this world, from monarch down to the most humble commoner.”
Selections From the Writings of ‘Abdu’l-Bahá, p. 200

Such is the nature of this material world. Nothing lasts forever, so this world cannot be relied upon for permanent happiness. We might be very happy with a new car or a new house but eventually there will be problems. We might be happy with a new job we got, but it will not last forever, it will end when we retire. We might be happily enjoying retirement years but that will eventually end, as nothing lasts forever.

I am not suggesting that people should not enjoy what the material world has to offer but I see a certain danger in becoming attached to anything that is impermanent because it will ultimately end and then what will we have at the end of this life?

We might be very happy in a marriage, but about half of all marriages end in divorce. Even if it does not end in divorce eventually it will end, as physical death will surely tear it asunder. No matter how much people try not to think about it, one or the other of the spouses is going to die first and leave the other behind. All living things will die eventually, and that includes our beloved animal friends. The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away. :(

Much as I often feel that physical death is a cruel act of God, I accept physical death as an unavoidable reality of life in this physical world, and I also see it as an opportunity for new beginnings. Since this physical life has to go until it ends, I believe we should try to make the best of the time we have in this world.

Man is said to die when the respiration of the lungs and the beatings of the heart cease, but I do not believe that the man actually dies. He is merely separated from the bodily part that was of use to him in this world, while the man himself continues to live. The man continues to live since man is not a man because of his body but because of his spirit (soul). It is the spirit that thinks in man, and thoughts and feelings are what constitutes man. The death of man is merely his passing from this physical world into the spiritual world, where the man takes on a spiritual body and continues to live forever.

Thus, I do not believe that physical death is the end of life. It is only the end of this physical life, but it is the beginning of a new life in the spiritual world.
I think the lights go out and come on within a completely new form of life. Same as this one is.
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Nothing lasts forever in this life.
Evidence presently suggests even the universe has a use-by date. I suspect no one will be around to notice, though.
Such is the nature of this material world. Nothing lasts forever, so this world cannot be relied upon for permanent happiness.
What's the point of being happy forever? If there weren't winter who'd even notice spring?

Eternal life on the one hand and infinite tedium and pointlessness on the other are indelibly linked in my mind.
Much as I often feel that physical death is a cruel act of God, I accept physical death as an unavoidable reality of life in this physical world, and I also see it as an opportunity for new beginnings. Since this physical life has to go until it ends, I believe we should try to make the best of the time we have in this world.
I see death as natural and grieving as natural and at times very painful, but they're built into the system. Grieving is about unbonding, and our biochemistry has evolved to use bonding as a powerful breeding element (human infants aren't independent till about five, and historically have benefited from two parents, a carer and a provider). We also bond with friends and our social units. It's all part of our sense of identity.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
I often get the feeling this is all there is and their ain't no more. Yet logic , my logic, still leads me to believe that the mystery of existence is a grande one, and not a dud that fizzles out. So I got one feeling, but am convinced of something totally different than what I feel.
Hi osgart... It's always nice to see you. :)
Feelings come and go and they are unreliable, but I think your logic is correct....
The mystery of existence is a grande one, totally different from what you feel. ;)
 
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Alien826

No religious beliefs
Eternal life on the one hand and infinite tedium and pointlessness on the other are indelibly linked in my mind.

Who the heck would want to live forever?

It seems to me that the value of most things is vested in their transience. "If I ruled the world, every day would be the first day of spring"? It wouldn't be long before we would be saying "Does it have to be Spring every day? How about a nice snowstorm for a change?" :)
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Who the heck would want to live forever?
I also feel the same way but I also realize that I cannot judge whether I would want to live forever by what my life has been like in this world, because the next world is a spiritual world which is a whole new ball game. Moreover since it is timeless, I won't be thinking "gee, when is this life going to end?"
 

Truth in love

Well-Known Member
Nothing lasts forever in this life. Our life in this world is all about change and we can count on change, whether we like it or not. What is here today might last for a while but eventually it will be gone. Some people experience more happiness than other people but their happiness is not guaranteed to last forever as it could turn to sorrow overnight.

“O thou seeker of the Kingdom! Thy letter was received. Thou hast written of the severe calamity that hath befallen thee—the death of thy respected husband. That honourable man hath been so subjected to the stress and strain of this world that his greatest wish was for deliverance from it. Such is this mortal abode: a storehouse of afflictions and suffering. It is ignorance that binds man to it, for no comfort can be secured by any soul in this world, from monarch down to the most humble commoner.”
Selections From the Writings of ‘Abdu’l-Bahá, p. 200

Such is the nature of this material world. Nothing lasts forever, so this world cannot be relied upon for permanent happiness. We might be very happy with a new car or a new house but eventually there will be problems. We might be happy with a new job we got, but it will not last forever, it will end when we retire. We might be happily enjoying retirement years but that will eventually end, as nothing lasts forever.

I am not suggesting that people should not enjoy what the material world has to offer but I see a certain danger in becoming attached to anything that is impermanent because it will ultimately end and then what will we have at the end of this life?

We might be very happy in a marriage, but about half of all marriages end in divorce. Even if it does not end in divorce eventually it will end, as physical death will surely tear it asunder. No matter how much people try not to think about it, one or the other of the spouses is going to die first and leave the other behind. All living things will die eventually, and that includes our beloved animal friends. The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away. :(

Much as I often feel that physical death is a cruel act of God, I accept physical death as an unavoidable reality of life in this physical world, and I also see it as an opportunity for new beginnings. Since this physical life has to go until it ends, I believe we should try to make the best of the time we have in this world.

Man is said to die when the respiration of the lungs and the beatings of the heart cease, but I do not believe that the man actually dies. He is merely separated from the bodily part that was of use to him in this world, while the man himself continues to live. The man continues to live since man is not a man because of his body but because of his spirit (soul). It is the spirit that thinks in man, and thoughts and feelings are what constitutes man. The death of man is merely his passing from this physical world into the spiritual world, where the man takes on a spiritual body and continues to live forever.

Thus, I do not believe that physical death is the end of life. It is only the end of this physical life, but it is the beginning of a new life in the spiritual world.
I generally agree.

A few thoughts.

1. Death is merciful much of the time. Being super old and in massive pain but unable to die would be a problem.

2. Marriage does not have to end with death.
 

Truth in love

Well-Known Member
Marriage ends, but the relationship can continue. Marriage is a earthly contract.
Often,

Matthew 16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

This power can enable marriages to last. 1 Cor 11:11 Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.

We are meant to be together.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
I generally agree.

A few thoughts.

1. Death is merciful much of the time. Being super old and in massive pain but unable to die would be a problem.

2. Marriage does not have to end with death.
I generally agree.
Death can be merciful for those who are in much pain that cannot be alleviated.

How do you believe that marriage continues after the physical death of one spouse?
I believe physical death is only a temporary separation, since reunion takes place in the spiritual world, but it is a separation until the other spouse dies and passes on to the spiritual world.
 

Truth in love

Well-Known Member
I generally agree.
Death can be merciful for those who are in much pain that cannot be alleviated.

How do you believe that marriage continues after the physical death of one spouse?
I believe physical death is only a temporary separation, since reunion takes place in the spiritual world, but it is a separation until the other spouse dies and passes on to the spiritual world.

They are apart for a time. However with the sealing power the marriage started here can last forever.
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I also feel the same way but I also realize that I cannot judge whether I would want to live forever by what my life has been like in this world, because the next world is a spiritual world which is a whole new ball game. Moreover since it is timeless, I won't be thinking "gee, when is this life going to end?"
Ahm, 'timeless' here would mean 'without duration', no?
 
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