Nothing lasts forever in this life

[Trailblazer]

Ahm, 'timeless' here would mean 'without duration', no?

There is time in the spiritual world, just not the same kind of time that we experience on Earth.

Time with us is measured by the sun. In the spiritual world, where there is no more sunrise, and no more sunset, that kind of time does not exist.

Time, in the spiritual world, aka heaven, goes on forever, there is no beginning and no end.
We will experience eternal life (everlasting life) in the spiritual world, as compared to the temporal life of this world.

 

[1213]

...Some people experience more happiness than other people but their happiness is not guaranteed to last forever as it could turn to sorrow overnight. ....

I think that is an interesting matter. In my opinion everyone could experience as much happiness as anyone. It depends on how person sees things, not really about what happens in life. For example, someone could be happy that his glass is still half full, other could be sad that he has only half remaining. When one learns to see things in positive way, it is difficult to end happiness.

 

[Trailblazer]

I think that is an interesting matter. In my opinion everyone could experience as much happiness as anyone. It depends on how person sees things, not really about what happens in life. For example, someone could be happy that his glass is still half full, other could be sad that he has only half remaining. When one learns to see things in positive way, it is difficult to end happiness.

Hypothetically speaking it might be true that anyone can be as happy as anyone else, but realistically, it is not possible because human thought and behavior is derived from a combination of factors such as childhood upbringing, heredity, education, adult experiences, and present life circumstances, and as such how people 'see things' is very complex and not easily changed.

 

[1213]

...how people 'see things' is very complex and not easily changed.

I can agree that it may be difficult to change. But, it is possible for everyone who wants it.

 

[KWED]

I did not say that love doesn't last forever.

Yes you did. You said "Nothing lasts forever".
You asserted it several times.

I will also love my husband forever. Love is eternal.

So some things do last forever.
Perhaps you should change the OP and title?

I meant that materially derived happiness does not last forever, but love is not materially derived, it is an emanation from the soul, which is eternal.

Love is a product of the physical brain. The object of that love is a physical thing. So of course love is derived from the material world.

Also, you need to specify a time scale. You said "in this life". What do you mean by that? The bricks of my house will last longer than me.

As usual, your argument seems to be based on vacate and contradictory platitudes that quickly unravel.

 

[KWED]

If there weren't winter who'd even notice spring?

Although those parts of the planet that do not experience seasons are often highly valued destinations.

 

[KWED]

Feelings come and go and they are unreliable

Indeed. It is unwise to assume that what we "feel" is real or true.

 

[KWED]

Who the heck would want to live forever?

It seems to me that the value of most things is vested in their transience. "If I ruled the world, every day would be the first day of spring"? It wouldn't be long before we would be saying "Does it have to be Spring every day? How about a nice snowstorm for a change?"

The very idea of eternal life seems awful.
Even after you had done every possible thing that there is to do, and you had done them again a trillion times, you'd still have an infinite eternity left to fill. It would drive anyone insane.
The apologist often replies that god will manipulate your mind so you can't get bored, or you forget that you've done stuff, or there are no negative emotions in paradise, etc but that just raises more problems. The free will that religionists claim is essential for existence to have any meaning will have gone.

 

[KWED]

Moreover since it is timeless, I won't be thinking "gee, when is this life going to end?"

No. You'll be thinking "dear god, this is never going to end!"

So, if you asked him, would god make eternal life end?

 

[KWED]

Time with us is measured by the sun. In the spiritual world, where there is no more sunrise, and no more sunset, that kind of time does not exist.

So is it always dark or always light in heaven?
Also, who doesn't love a good sunset? You really aren't selling the afterlife very well you know.

 

[blü 2]

Although those parts of the planet that do not experience seasons are often highly valued destinations.

I'm familiar with Singapore and Kuala Lumpur, but that tropical heat+humidity+durians is strictly for volunteers in my book.

 

[KWED]

I'm familiar with Singapore and Kuala Lumpur, but that tropical heat+humidity+durians is strictly for volunteers in my book.

Hawaii and Florida seem pretty popular.

 

[blü 2]

Hawaii and Florida seem pretty popular.

Singapore is 1º north of the equator and KL is 3º north.

But Honolulu's 21º north and Miama's 26º north AND they don't have durians.

 

[Jedster]

I'm familiar with Singapore and Kuala Lumpur, but that tropical heat+humidity+durians is strictly for volunteers in my book.

LOl..I lived in KL for 8 months and went out everyday at 5pm in the torrential rains. I loved it and was thought the crazy Englishman. Also was introduced to durian with the chuckles of my hosts.

Thanks for the memory.

 

[blü 2]

LOl..I lived in KL for 8 months and went out everyday at 5pm in the torrential rains. I loved it and was thought the crazy Englishman. Also was introduced to durian with the chuckles of my hosts.

Thanks for the memory.

I guess standing in the downpour is as cool as it's going to get on any particular day ...

First time I was there, when I'd finished the business side I went for a tourist walk, a BAD idea from which I took refuge in the Museum of Islamic Art's air con. Ask me anything about gold letters in Qur'ans ...

 

[Trailblazer]

Also, who doesn't love a good sunset? You really aren't selling the afterlife very well you know.

I am not trying to sell anything. I don't care what people love. The afterlife will be whatever it will be, which is whatever God decided it will be.

 

[rational experiences]

The spoken human word.

By a human living first says.....

Nothing a state only that I've thought upon. Whilst living. Lasts forever.

I don't own nothing in my life or my death.

As even when I die as I know I do...everything itself ....which I do not own still exists.

Nothing has nothing to do with my life.

Eventually I become with my own used scientific only themed about the God. Earth rock stone.

As my living bones die. They harden. They then turn into the dusts. Not nothing....dust.

My life came from the water I walk upon and the mineral dusts carried in the water. Biology.

When I die. Holy life water leaves me. I know. Life's experiences.

So I know why I die as a human being I'm human.

Science of a human theist.

Thinks. Wants. Wanted a machine to be built out of the dusts. In life dust was his total body removal. Known...when a human as a human doesn't exist.

Ignored relativity warning. You are human to see dust. No such thesis when you weren't human...no human thoughts precede you.

Wanted the machine to also destroy those dusts.

Said to his theorising self. If I destroy the dusts. I'll blow up overheat my machine too. I must give it something.

Oh like my life biology. I do all evil comparing as the man human liar. The theist. About evils.

I must give it life ...water cooling.

It blew up anyway. As he theoried in the beginning was nothing.

Where he lived in his beginning human was everything.

He lied.

The thesis was how to make my machine position apply a conversion.

First I must heat the dust. Form a heated nothing space. It's nothing plus heat energy as something. Then light and gas exists converting beginning's. In that nothing moment.

Not anything to do with cosmic history ever.

Rational humans know no human ever spoke on behalf of why anything did exist.

As there is no advice about when it hadnt existed.

So then he said next moment I caused evening sky immaculate holy body to light up. What I caused myself his scientists memory already advised.

Everything began to be sacrificed. I caused evil myself. UFO condition.

As historic said natural light sun attack was held naturally above in void space womb. Only on one side of earth God body planet mass.

Man the theist lied. Bible was his own human satanic confessions.

 

[Jedster]

I guess standing in the downpour is as cool as it's going to get on any particular day ...

First time I was there, when I'd finished the business side I went for a tourist walk, a BAD idea from which I took refuge in the Museum of Islamic Art's air con. Ask me anything about gold letters in Qur'ans ...

I once took refuge, during a khamsin* in Jerusalem, at the Islamic museum in Jerusalem.

*The Khamsin is a very dry, hot and sandy wind that blows with great speeds from south to south-east, affecting Egypt and the eastern countries surrounding the Mediterranean Sea (also known as Levant). The name Khamsin of the wind is a local name that is more common in Egypt and is also used in the Levant such as in Israel, Jordan, Palestine, etc.

 

[blü 2]

There is time in the spiritual world, just not the same kind of time that we experience on Earth.

Time with us is measured by the sun. In the spiritual world, where there is no more sunrise, and no more sunset, that kind of time does not exist.

Time, in the spiritual world, aka heaven, goes on forever, there is no beginning and no end.
We will experience eternal life (everlasting life) in the spiritual world, as compared to the temporal life of this world.

I warmly wish you great joy of it.

 

[rational experiences]

Anything said is said only by a living biological human thinking. Exactly advised.

You choose the topic or subject.

Says spiritual. You are biological.

A human is the same human. You see observe.

Theme one atmosphere owning the term the atmosphere.

Said by a human. Atmosphere.

I compare the atmosphere myself to mass. Says the human.

I said it's of spirit as it owns more space to be a gas than mass.

Exactly advised.

I look at humans. I know they should all be the same. As the term atmosphere as the body is the same.

What's not the same is on the ground. The experience.

I could be in a boat on water.
I could be standing on sand.
I could be standing on a mountain.
I could be standing on dirt.
I could be standing on a rock.

Ground positions.

Ground position also equals temperature or a season.

Not the atmosphere it's a human only experience.

As the atmosphere is exact.

Why science does not exist on earth. Exact reasons. As one thesis.

I look at humans they are not the same living body types. I own no particular reason to claim why.

Due to ground natural conditions itself.

Hence I should not lie as theists do lie.

If a Dead human speaks to me they are not biological. Therefore my biological life terms have nothing to do with a dead humans voice speaking. A recording.

I say the state in the past is owning why a human is dead. Is the state a human owned in the past who is dead. Biological body aged it or was sick biological died. Atmosphere stays the same. Supporting life.

Aging is in cellular causes. Length it exists naturally is owned by the expressive cell. Exact. Human death doesn't change the atmosphere.

Theists were told don't ever theory about anything dead. Was exactly taught.

What doesn't a living human biological body own?

Burning light. The conditions of light.

Light began in a sun.

Earth is not a sun.

Light is above us in the heavens in a void vacuum. Void vacuum part of the advice as body type. Life isn't in light or in a voiding vacuum.

Light is first a burning gas.
Light above is burning gas body plus sun fuel.

Not a spirit.

In science it is a gas body. Old Science said a gas body was a spirit.

Science told itself do not use comparison words as you cause future human memory it's confusion.

As known studies about consciousness. As it always naturally accesses old information. Use wrong words it falsified human advice.

So Theists should only use one language and no fake symbolic comparisons. Told exactly not to.

As thinking our spirit is in burning light is what satanic machine theist think today that we are linked to. By terms spirit.

Hence mind study of human psychics began where satanic Theists claim advice would give them sun string contacts lying. As they did think the same about an NDE which none of you queried.

Seeing light as you die is because life lives in a lighted position. You see light until you die no longer conscious.

Communication human recorded images cooled by water mass and oxygen. If a transmitter wasn't cooled you wouldn't receive images.