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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]It seems to me inescapable logic that there is nothing other than God, because God cannot create something that isn't God.[/FONT]
If anyone has a way out of this 'logical inescapableness', I would like to hear it.
The first part makes sense, the second part is illogical.
Welcome to the DIR LA.
Its logical, but some people might get caught up on the wording.
I assume you mean the second part of the first sentence is illogical: i.e. that God cannot create something that isn't God.
Who told you that he can't ? he canIf G-d is almighty, why can't she/he create something that isn't G-d ?
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]It seems to me inescapable logic that there is nothing other than God, because God cannot create something that isn't God.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]It seems to me inescapable logic that there is nothing other than God, because God cannot create something that isn't God.[/FONT]
If anyone has a way out of this 'logical inescapableness', I would like to hear it.
If G-d is almighty, why can't she/he create something that isn't G-d ?
LAGoff, are you a Jewish atheist or agnostic ?
Are you saying that the definition of 'almighty' is the ability of God to create something that is not Himself?
Interesting. That would be illogical, but then perhaps there is something greater than logic.
I should mention what I feel would be another position: that God can hide from Himself the fact that what He created is only Himself (this ability to 'hide' being just as 'almighty' a creation as the above mentioned creation, albeit a negative one).
I suppose between the two illogical positions, it's better to go with positive illogic.
I don't consider myself agnostic or atheist. I know that God exists. However, whether I am God(logical) or just a creation of Him(illogical), I am agnostic about that, but I live as though He is separate from me (I need a little distance).
G-D by definition can create anything.[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]It seems to me inescapable logic that there is nothing other than God, because God cannot create something that isn't God.[/FONT]
If anyone has a way out of this 'logical inescapableness', I would like to hear it.
G-D by definition can create anything.
quote: "So, LA, are you an OJ ? If not, then as Flankie implied, what is a nice Jewish boy like you doing in an OJ sub-forum like this ?[/quote"]
Trying not to be God.
What do you mean?CMike, do you believe the universe was created by a self-assembly process, as modern physics now believes ?
What do you mean?
Hi LA, it seems like you are struggling with the notion that if G-d is everything, then you, indeed, are part of G-d. Does this present a problem for you ? Is this an issue you are struggling with ? And did you put this post in the OJ sub-forum because you want to know the OJ views on it ? CMike is an OJ, and he gave you his opinion.
Physicists now believe the universe was not created by G-d. See Hawking:
Stephen Hawking says universe not created by God | Science | The Guardian
That means it leaves G-d responsible for the relationships between man to man and man to the environment. So please behave well toward men and the environment, it will make G-d happy .