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Nowhere in the Bible does it say or infer that mary the Mother of Christ...

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was conceived and born without original sin nor that she was absolutely free of any personal sin. I do believe she was a woman of distinct honor, having been deemed fit by God to bear His only begotten Son, and was saved and that she is forever in heaven. The Roman Catholics can't accept that the "Mother of God" is anything less than perfect and absolutely sinless from her own conception. God made Jesus perfect and sinless in the womb of Mary and free of original sin by the miracle of His divine workings. The holy seed (sperm) of God makes Jesus Christ perfect and absolutely sinless.


Does the Bible say that Mary, mother of Jesus, was born without sin?


To me, Mary herself addressed this issue in the words of the Magnificat (the song of praise that she spoke in response to the greeting of her cousin Elizabeth (the mother of John the Baptist) when Mary went to visit her immediately after Mary had been informed by the angel Gabriel that she was to be the mother of the Messiah). Mary began by saying (Luke 1:46-47), "My soul exalts the Lord, and my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior." If she had truly been without both original and actual sin, she would have had no need to either have or acknowledge a Savior.

She also said in Luke 1:48-50, "For, behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed, for He (God) has done great things for me, and holy is His name. And His mercy is on those who fear Him from generation to generation.” Had Mary been totally without sin, she would have had no need to either receive or accept mercy (that is, undeserved favor or forgiveness) from God.

In addition, the Bible records occasions when Mary was mildly rebuked by Jesus Himself for actions or requests that, had she been totally without sin and shared Jesus' complete knowledge of and devotion to His Father's will, she should not have performed or asked (Luke 2:49-50 and John 2:3-4).


Everyone living on Earth first knows that we all own a natural human life.
We all know that 2 original human being parents by science studies were the exact same DNA owner for human origins.

So we also know that DNA diversified from being the same family.

Science study says, a whole living human self exists after every single animal life is living as all their own bodies.

And a human is telling these stories, not anyone else.

And a human is looking back in their life, to when they personally as a human did not exist, as a human, or consciousness that knows science.

So a text said....never look back or you will be changed, by the female condition.

Now in science, being what any creationist or naturalist or nuclear male talks about is for a string of thoughts, as thought by a living human male about looking back at information when his own consciousness did not even exist.

Which actually makes science a liar in human expression....for just because you can, does not make it correct.

A male when talking about Mother Mary knows that he is inferring to a living human being, a female living self owned human life.

A male when he is talking science knows that he named empty out of space, the deep pit and cold...and a womb....as a female inference....which first brings to the readers attention that a male is quite nasty in his comparison usage.

He said that God O the stone released its spirit that arose out of the body of stone by the mountain volcano...and it incepted the heavenly gases in the womb of space....which is not the story human life....it is a science statement.

So he ought today stop lying about his science themes of comparing science to natural life bodies...for it is factually described as a falsification of information.

So the story Mary Mother of the human being baby male, given a title in DNA genesis life ownership to be Jesus has nothing at all to do with CH heavenly gas mass....or why a male had it mass removed...for science knows that science most certainly did remove gas/spirit mass in science of the nuclear ancient technology.

From the desert dwelling male science life, Pyramid builders, to his irradiation life attacked, titled Moses....he mutated his own natural holy land DNA.

And DNA proves that it was mutated and diversified its first original human parental history, natural history....due to UFO mass irradiation ground fall out.

Why the Nature of animal life on Earth changed...by country of variations to fall out radiation effects.

What we always knew.

So losing BABY DNA from out of the genetic material that a female cell owned the ovary was the real story.

As the spatial atmospheric heavenly gas re massed in ICE gain...the sacrificed DNA Genetic life of the human baby healed....and their life returned healed.

Holy life was given back as human entitlement....yet the prophetic warning said, in that incident males of the Satanic higher intellect would also return in their anti knowledge of life removal.

And just as taught, they certainly attacked life again with the pyramid technology....and a Christ human law, world community of emigrated humanity who left the desert region a long time ago and went to live in ICED European countries were the humanity of the Christ history, a Healer/medical awareness who took action to save the life of humanity.

Not just as a one community agreement, it was a multi national male group who made those scientific choices, by observation and mathematical science reasoning.
 

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Goodman John,
The only problem I have with your reasoning is: it goes completely against the Bible, and any person who hopes to live very much longer must believe God Word, The Holy Bible. God even promised that He would protect His words from all generations, Psalms 12:6,7. Notice that the Bible, even Jesus said; Your word is truth, John 17:17. In at least two places the Bible tells us that God’s word remains forever, Isaiah 40:8, 1Peter 1:25, and also this word that has been proclaimed to you. So if a person disregards God’s Words, it is impossible to Help a person to everlasting life, 1Timothy 4:16, Psalms 10:4.
Something to remember; different men have tried to show where God’s word is inaccurate, for many years. Even though the Bible was written over a period of 1600 years, being completed about 2,000 years ago, it is still the most up to date book on earth. When men write books there books are outdated by the time they are put on the book shelves. It is usually easy to find something wrong with any book written today, because knowledge is doubling every few years. Think about that, God’s word is still the most up to date book on earth, even more than up to date, it Prophesies about the future. Think about what Jesus says at Luke 10:21. What Jesus said is beyond the possibility of men!! No man is wise enough to write a book that babes can understand, but wise men cannot, but God did.
To understand God’s word you must be humble and open to knowledge, Matthew 18:1-4. A person must pray for The Holy Spirit, along with sincerity, to understand the deep things of God, 1Corinthians 2:1-16.
One more point; we are all limited by our lack of knowledge, called Egocentric Predicament, or Epistemological Predicament, meaning we, compared with God, know NOTHING, so how can we question or reason something different than what is written in the Book written by the only Omniscient person in existence. It is really the unreasonable for any person to disagree with what God said, Job 36:4, Job 37:5,16,40:8, 42:1-3. Consider what is said at Isaiah 55:8,9, also 1Corinthians 3:18,19.
Think about this; according to Science mankind uses about 3% of our brain power. God made man to use 100%, think about how much smarter we will be when we live in the Paradise earth that God promises. God knows everything, should we question Him, or try to learn what we can, from Him.
Another point, think about what is said at 1Corinthians 8:2, you think you know something, you do not know it just as you ought to know it. God knows everything, He Created Everything, Acts 17:24,25. Agape!!!
Males, the science self, have to be spiritually self living to quote that self is the highest form of God, as a male, which he did, spiritually.

As the spiritual being who said, that God came from eternal...and still today believes that theme as a scientist studying it.

Yet he also knows that God as an angel body o O masses of fell into the deep empty pit of space, and burnt.....as the known will and testimony of what God was, an angelic spirit body.

A male inherited his own life and said he was the highest form of God in the Universe as a male and as a human....and as the WORD applied male thinking self, was in fact as compared to us today, spiritually superior in all terms of self reference.

As the male self who invented science and told a natural truth, before natural was changed by the state, male choice, male control, male belief with machine applications.

A male therefore implied that he controlled the conditions of God and lied...for all he owned was self presence who wanted to own change of God.

How the story was always told.

Therefore as he enforced the meaning of the WORD as a natural spiritually aware highest human historic self....then of course originally it was owner of its holiest intent...without machine reaction or change.

And it is how we hear it......naturally and natural male highest spiritual God realizations by original intent of the first use HOLY WORD before change and discussion of machine change existed.
 

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Spirit was taught and I remember reading I think in THOTH texts that the creation never owned a name.....for a human was not its creator.

And as told, if a human is so egotistical to think that their bio conscious mind can name and evaluate conditions that their consciousness does not own....for self is the only true status, an aware self....then naming proved them wrong...and they got destroyed.

The teachings of science, I sent God Earth and life to HELL....was real...for science did in fact drop Earth as a once higher planetary mass and body in space out of its original alignment and into the space well.

O God the planet survived....we never did...and all human artefacts found deep inside of the Earth fusion proved that past reality...and yet science wanted to ignore its relevance.

Reason…...because science was always a liar.
 

RabbiO

הרב יונה בן זכריה
@Jonathan Bailey -

In December you declared yourself to being somewhere between atheism and agnosticism. Now you are wrapping yourself in the mantle of Christianity.

What gives?
 
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