nsanely Racist Chinese Detergent Ad "Cleans" a Black Man

[Acim]

Actually it's based off of an Italian commercial done about a decade ago. Funny though, I don't remember this one causing an uproar. Wonder why?

Reverse discrimination is why. Perfectly okay to throw white guy into laundry and have him come out a black guy. Kinda cute really.
But if black guy is thrown into laundry that alone right there is probably inherently racist, but then transforming him into anything but his wonderful black self is for sure racist and anyone claiming it is cute is sadly mistaken and needs to go to PC class 101 for further indoctrination.

 

[Twilight Hue]

What does that have to do with anything? There's many examples of minorities being used in media that promotes stigmas and stereotypes of their groups.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minstrel_show#Black_minstrels

Race fetish porn is a huge thing and it features racist tropes against non-whites. The black men in the videos are portrayed as beastly sex machines. They purposefully pair darker-skinned black men who are taller and larger in build with petite, slender blonde women (to highlight the "animalism" of the black man and the powerlessness of the "pure, innocent white girl") and make a big deal of portraying the black men as having giant penises which are "destroying" the orifices of the white woman. The really trashy videos in this genre have the white woman hurling racial slurs at the black actors, too (including "n**ger"). (There's black woman/white man porn that is also racist, portraying black women as "black whores". There is also racist cuckold porn.)

A lot of hardcore rap culture is often criticized as a modern form of minstelism for promoting harmful stereotypes of black culture (ultraviolence, gang culture, crass materialism, anti-intellectualism, racist sexual stereotypes, etc.).

There's similar examples with other ethnic groups and with LGBT people, too.


I'm sorry, but I fail to the see the humor in making fun of someone's skin color, especially in a social context where darker skin is vicariously maligned and exoticized/fetished. A white girl in high school tried to make a joke about me being a slave and I was confused. I wondered what she meant and she put her arm next to mine, meaning that because I have brown skin, I'm a slave. I was not amused.

That's why it all depends upon where you come from and the people around you. I believe you when you say your not amused. All this is conducent to how you are treated in life and how things get viewed as a result.

There's no right or wrong here and no easy way to put it. I remember having conversions over people like Al Jolson for instance in regards to the blackface era and was kinda stunned that many older generation black folks didn't view him the same way the younger generation has.

Jolson in real life pleaded the case for blacks during the time where rights and privilege were far and few between. But still it was mentioned that Jolsen was positive for the time, but wouldn't be appros or received well in today's society and best served to put it to rest as something from a generation now pretty much for the greater part dead and gone.

I'm just trying to say that people have become way far too sensitive today and far to reactive which can lead to unhealthy and destructive behaviour that can be just as bad and damaging as actual real racism is.
This is not really a debate thread, so I'll leave this to rest after my reply, but I'm just trying to point out all the over-sensitivity and blowing things to far out of proportion for cases of mis-interpreted and arguably misguided humor that could have been presented in a much better way than it had been.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

...and mild manner Clark Kent wearing glasses goes into a booth and comes out as Superman
without wearing glasses. A derogatory inference towards people who wear glasses.

Except the glasses are a part of the gimmick to appear more normal.

 

[0x0005D0]

Reverse discrimination is why. Perfectly okay to throw white guy into laundry and have him come out a black guy. Kinda cute really.
But if black guy is thrown into laundry that alone right there is probably inherently racist, but then transforming him into anything but his wonderful black self is for sure racist and anyone claiming it is cute is sadly mistaken and needs to go to PC class 101 for further indoctrination.

I'd hazard a guess that if it was the other way around that nobody would have cared. That is, turning a Chinese guy into a black guy wouldn't have gotten nearly as much condemnation from the rest of the world.

Basically, there's a double standard here:

1. The Italian ad featured a "postive" though questionable stereotype of blacks, so the blacks didn't complain. When blacks don't complain, the media doesn't care.
2. The Chinese ad featured was viewed as "negative" through the eyes of Americans and Blacks. When the Americans and Blacks decide that something is racist, the media agrees.

It's true that black people have suffered a lot of discrimination in the West. But that same history does not apply in Asian countries. The Chinese ad is a prime example of what the media looks like when a native people controls its own culture, and not subject to the censorship of political correctness.

 

[Thanda]

I watched it. No, it's not funny and it is very racist. It's based on the old "black man going after the pure lighter-skinned woman" trope, and she's "defending" herself by shoving him away into the washer and "cleaning" him, so he emerges as a socially acceptable light-skinned Chinese man, which makes her visibly happy. It's kind of like Beauty and the Beast, where the black man is supposed to be the "ugly beast" who isn't worthy of the lighter-skinned woman. **** that ad.

(For the record, Beauty and the Beast was the first movie I saw in theaters, and I got upset at the end when the Beast turns back into the Prince. I got up out of my seat and started walking towards the screen, crying and saying "where's the Beast?!". I liked the Beast and never saw the reason why he should have to change back to get the lady. I never changed my opinion on that.)

Maybe "it" was too big for her?

 

[Revoltingest]

Aye, laundering clothing can cause....

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Maybe "it" was too big for her?

That's actually never been proven.

 

[Thanda]

That's actually never been proven.

Are you talking about what I'm talking about?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Maybe "it" was too big for her?

Hahaha, good point.

 

[AsianActivist]

I'd hazard a guess that if it was the other way around that nobody would have cared. That is, turning a Chinese guy into a black guy wouldn't have gotten nearly as much condemnation from the rest of the world.

Basically, there's a double standard here:

1. The Italian ad featured a "postive" though questionable stereotype of blacks, so the blacks didn't complain. When blacks don't complain, the media doesn't care.
2. The Chinese ad featured was viewed as "negative" through the eyes of Americans and Blacks. When the Americans and Blacks decide that something is racist, the media agrees.

It's true that black people have suffered a lot of discrimination in the West. But that same history does not apply in Asian countries. The Chinese ad is a prime example of what the media looks like when a native people controls its own culture, and not subject to the censorship of political correctness.

You have no idea what you're talking about do you? Are you Chinese? Are you a racist?

 

[lewisnotmiller]

The Chinese ad is a prime example of what the media looks like when a native people controls its own culture, and not subject to the censorship of political correctness.

*blinks*
You think ads on Chinese tv are less censored for political purposes than those in the West?
I'm thinking not.

Compared to North Korea, I'm sure they're a paragon of free market liberty, but let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater here.

 

[AsianActivist]

*blinks*
You think ads on Chinese tv are less censored for political purposes than those in the West?
I'm thinking not.

Compared to North Korea, I'm sure they're a paragon of free market liberty, but let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater here.

I LOL'd at this too. China is so afraid of Black Masculinity that they photoshopped John Boyega out of the Star Wars poster.

http://www.dailydot.com/geek/chinese-poster-force-awakens-john-boyega/

If anything the fact that this WASN'T CENSORED says a lot more about why the system we have in the west is FAR SUPERIOR to that in China or Asian countries. They should be letting through stuff with interracial relationships while any civilized country would have censored this add.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Many of the best and oldest jokes have been about gender race and colour and not forgetting class.
It has always been used as a way to bring attitudes up for closer inspection and show them forvwhat they are.
The world is getting too serious. And setting people against each other.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Many of the best and oldest jokes have been about gender race and colour and not forgetting class.
It has always been used as a way to bring attitudes up for closer inspection and show them forvwhat they are.
The world is getting too serious. And setting people against each other.

And these jokes have their context and place. George Carlin did things that could be spun as racist, as does Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle. But as Carlin pointed out, it's the user and context that matters. However, this commercial is "washing the black" off of someone (and indeed there are products made for "lightening" skin that are marketed towards black people) and having them coming out a "clean and attractive" Chinese man. Family Guy could do something like that (and it's not too hard to imagine Peter trying to do it), but there doesn't seem to be a set up revolving a black man who has is "blackness" washed off as a punch line.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

And these jokes have their context and place. George Carlin did things that could be spun as racist, as does Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle. But as Carlin pointed out, it's the user and context that matters. However, this commercial is "washing the black" off of someone (and indeed there are products made for "lightening" skin that are marketed towards black people) and having them coming out a "clean and attractive" Chinese man. Family Guy could do something like that (and it's not too hard to imagine Peter trying to do it), but there doesn't seem to be a set up revolving a black man who has is "blackness" washed off as a punch line.

It turned an african ino a chinese. ......so?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

It turned an african ino a chinese. ......so?

It's that the cleaning product worked well enough to "clean the black off."

 

[0x0005D0]

The more common Chinese attitude towards blacks came out in the discussion as to why so many popular movies do not include blacks as stars, and it was mentioned that it's largely because of the Chinese market whereas movies with blacks in lead roles tend to be avoided.

That doesn't make sense. If Hollywood was out to appease the Chinese market, they wouldn't be "whitewashing" Asian characters.

 

[Flankerl]

That doesn't make sense. If Hollywood was out to appease the Chinese market, they wouldn't be "whitewashing" Asian characters.

"The planned Hollywood release of Ghost in the Shell is another egregious example of this, where the Japanese character Major Motoko Kusanagi will be played by actress Scarlett Johansson. It is plain to see that to many studios in Hollywood, an Asian-American lead is a toxic commodity. "

Except of course that not a single Japanese actor comes close to somewhat look like the Major. And its not even Hollywoods fault but Japans for drawing Manga/Anime characters the way they do.

Close enough.



That said: The Film is going to be horrible and they are going to butcher it.

 

[metis]

That doesn't make sense. If Hollywood was out to appease the Chinese market, they wouldn't be "whitewashing" Asian characters.

I was merely parroting what apparently is common knowledge in Hollywood, and some of this came out during the time of the "very white" Academy Awards this year. Money talks.

 

[AsianActivist]

Except of course that not a single Japanese actor comes close to somewhat look like the Major. And its not even Hollywoods fault but Japans for drawing Manga/Anime characters the way they do..

Well said on both counts. Just because the story happens to be written by a Japanese person, doesn't mean that the director has to discriminate against non-Asians. I used to work in media in both the United States and Asia and I NEARLY ALWAYS have race-blind casting. The only time it's not race-blind is when I need someone to play the villain then I try to avoid using certain ethnicity as it would seem too racist.

That said there is actually a lack of well-qualified Asian actors who are able to meet the demands of Hollywood. Asian acting fits the Asian personality: drab, soul-less, devoid of humor or passion. Few Asians, even Asian americans can make the bear minimum, let alone reach the caliber of well-known white, black, and Hispanic actors. I do agree that there is a lack of black and Hispanic actors compared to their talent ability, but Asians are actually OVERREPRESENTED both by their proportion of the US population and even more so by ability. This is speaking as an Asian-American.