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Obama and the Republican Party

YmirGF

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Dirty Penguin said:
True in a way. In government you can decrease your levels of spending but normally that's not how it's done. To "remove" planned spending is indeed a cut. Call it what you want...Planned removal or even a reduction. It's a cut to an overall budget. And there's been plenty of debt reduction going on here. The federal government, while sit still needs to trim spending and consolidate departments and more, it hasn't been spending at the levels people assume. Much of this happened before sequestration.
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You really need to read Bob Woodward's book. You would likely find it quite fascinating, though incredibly dry, reading. (It's about finance and politics, so it isn't really much of a page turner.) The reward is finishing the book. It gives a very interesting view of the interaction between the Obama administration and the Republicans culminating with the debt ceiling talks.
 
tytlyf

tytlyf

Not Religious
esmith said:
What is hard to understand is that the government is taking in more than it has in the last 12 to 14 years yet our projected outlays are continuing to go up. Doesn't it seem reasonable that a closer look a the federal governments spending. Especially in the entitlement area. From CBO | Updated Budget Projections: Fiscal Years 2013 to 2023

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This sounds like one of the largest things that you would like controlled. I agree. You'll notice during the Clinton years he got it right. I say we vote for Hillary and we'll get a repeat. It's our best chance.
Jeremy Mason said:
Here's a little morsel for you libertarians.

Rand Paul,"What tragedy it would have been if America wouldn't have gotten' to see Barack Obama as a leader."

Did I hear that right?

Enjoy! :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw5kswXZs9I
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I agree with his points in the speech. What I'm hearing him say is "what a tragedy it would have been if Obama had been charged for being in a car while young that had drugs in it. Today he wouldn't have been president because of a felony?"
 
YmirGF

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
tytlyf said:
I agree with his points in the speech. What I'm hearing him say is "what a tragedy it would have been if Obama had been charged for being in a car while young that had drugs in it. Today he wouldn't have been president because of a felony?"
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Well, at least we now know that Obama is not much of a leader. :sorry1:
 
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NotASockpuppet

New Member
fallingblood said:
In a recent interview, Obama had this to say: “The problem we have is we have a faction of the Republican Party, in the House of Representatives in particular, that view “compromise” as a dirty word, and anything that is even remotely associated with me, they feel obliged to oppose.”

Seeing some posts on this forum, if they are any representation at all, it is clear that what Obama is saying is true. Agree or disagree?
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This is very true. I've been hearing from a lot of right-wingers over the past several years, since Obama was elected how they'd rather fight for Iran, Syria or even North Korea than have Obama as a commander in chief.

The fact is that the Republicans today are so fanatical, so uncompromising that they basically resemble the Party Members of the Soviet Communist Party. They'd probably starve themselves to death if Obama told people to eat.
 
Jeremy Mason

Jeremy Mason

Well-Known Member
tytlyf said:
I agree with his points in the speech. What I'm hearing him say is "what a tragedy it would have been if Obama had been charged for being in a car while young that had drugs in it. Today he wouldn't have been president because of a felony?"
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I agree with the speech as well and no he wouldn't have been president if he had a felony.
 
Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
NotASockpuppet said:
This is very true. I've been hearing from a lot of right-wingers over the past several years, since Obama was elected how they'd rather fight for Iran, Syria or even North Korea than have Obama as a commander in chief.

The fact is that the Republicans today are so fanatical, so uncompromising that they basically resemble the Party Members of the Soviet Communist Party. They'd probably starve themselves to death if Obama told people to eat.
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Actually, that last part I have no doubts a number of the media-droned Conservatives probably would. But it can be said the mainstream Republican excludes others for not being like them, while the mainstream Democrat is prone to excluding those who don't agree with them. Just look at the Chik-fil-a controversy a couple years back when people protested just because the owner voiced his opinion. And much to their discredit, the owners (first father then son) of Chik-fil-a being staunchly against gay rights was nothing new at that point in time.

Jeremy Mason said:
I agree with the speech as well and no he wouldn't have been president if he had a felony.
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Which I agree in that situation it would have been a tragedy that someone who rose to prominence was cut down before they had a chance because of "guilty by association."
 
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BlandOatmeal

Active Member
fallingblood said:
In a recent interview, Obama had this to say: “The problem we have is we have a faction of the Republican Party, in the House of Representatives in particular, that view “compromise” as a dirty word, and anything that is even remotely associated with me, they feel obliged to oppose.”

Seeing some posts on this forum, if they are any representation at all, it is clear that what Obama is saying is true. Agree or disagree?
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Disagree. Obama wants to be the Emperor, and the Republicans won't let him.
 
esmith

esmith

Veteran Member
Monk Of Reason said:
I'm just confused then why you say its campaigning.
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Well campaigning is not necessarily for an office, it can be for an idea. When Obama wants something, he prefers to get in front of people and talk, when there are decisions to be made he goes plays golf or as in the Benghazi debacle goes on a campaign. He liked running for President but doesn't really like the job. As you can tell I have total disdain for the man as a leader.
 
Monk Of Reason

Monk Of Reason

༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
esmith said:
Well campaigning is not necessarily for an office, it can be for an idea. When Obama wants something, he prefers to get in front of people and talk, when there are decisions to be made he goes plays golf or as in the Benghazi debacle goes on a campaign. He liked running for President but doesn't really like the job. As you can tell I have total disdain for the man as a leader.
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I don't much like him either. Though for drastically different reasons. Though you must hate every president since Lincolin.
 
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