Obama Stimulus Plan | Hidden Medical Provisions

[DallasApple]

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Daschle says health-care reform “will not be pain free.” Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them. That means the elderly will bear the brunt.
What the hell does this mean? I have many conditions (herniated discs, spinal stenosis, degenerative disc disease, bone loss in my hip/knee, a couple types of arthritis) that you really don't get until you're older, and I'm 21 (and been like this since my preteens). Are we just supposed to crawl in a hole and die somewhere so healthy people can get health care?
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That is pretty sick.(no pun intended).

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Dallas

 

[DallasApple]

And what do they mean by "seniors"? Retired seniors only? Or the many "seniors' that still work and pay taxes?

What about my 96 year old grandmother?..She has a bulging aneruism on her descending aorta from "old age".Should we tell her..Well grandmother..you have lived well past your life expectancy..dont waste money treating that ..Just let it explode in your chest.It wont hurt that much.. I heard its instant death.Thats just part of getting old.Let the money go to someone who is still young.After all..you have to die sooner or later.

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Dallas

 

[Reverend Rick]

And what do they mean by "seniors"? Retired seniors only? Or the many "seniors' that still work and pay taxes?

What about my 96 year old grandmother?..She has a bulging aneruism on her descending aorta from "old age".Should we tell her..Well grandmother..you have lived well past your life expectancy..dont waste money treating that ..Just let it explode in your chest.It wont hurt that much.. I heard its instant death.Thats just part of getting old.Let the money go to someone who is still young.After all..you have to die sooner or later.

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Dallas

Dallas are you saying that grand children and great grand children should should spend their money sustaining people to live to be 150 years old if technology advances instead of spending the money on their children?

I know of precious few people who want to be a burden on their family. For who's benefit would you keep your grand mother alive, yours or hers?

Disclaimer: This is to provoke thought, not insult you. If we where on a sinking ship, would we not load our children first on the last life boat if we all could not fit?

 

[DallasApple]

Dallas are you saying that grand children and great grand children should should spend their money sustaining people to live to be 150 years old if technology advances instead of spending the money on their children?

I know of precious few people who want to be a burden on their family. For who's benefit would you keep your grand mother alive, yours or hers?

Disclaimer: This is to provoke thought, not insult you. If we where on a sinking ship, would we not load our children first on the last life boat if we all could not fit?

All I can tell you is my grandmother has as much right to live as I do.And if my grandmother wants to live..She shouldnt be told the value of her life is less.And you are not insulting me.Your insulting my grandmother.

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Dallas

 

[DallasApple]

Dallas are you saying that grand children and great grand children should should spend their money sustaining people to live to be 150 years old if technology advances instead of spending the money on their children?

I know of precious few people who want to be a burden on their family. For who's benefit would you keep your grand mother alive, yours or hers?

Disclaimer: This is to provoke thought, not insult you. If we where on a sinking ship, would we not load our children first on the last life boat if we all could not fit?

Oh and while your at it..why dont you throw the disbabled off the life raft to.Adults and children.Throw the down syndrome children and the war vets with no arms and legs off the boat too.Yes..leave the most helpless behind.With the exception of healthy children.

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Dallas

 

[DallasApple]

What about you Rick? You have diabetes right? Well just because technology has advanced to keep you living a long and healthy life...Why let you on the boat rather than a healthy male who issnt costing any money?

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Dallas

 

[DallasApple]

ALL ABOARD!!! Healthy children..calling all healthy children first we have one life raft left..NOPE sorry child you have brain damage(you cost more than your fair share) you stay and drown!NEXT calling all healthy(non senior) women!! All healthy women come quick!! NOPE you have breast cancer and no insurance..YOU stay and DROWN!! Next all "non senior" heatlhy men..healthy men hurry up!NOPE your limited your in a wheel chair you have to rely on public assistanc YOU stay and drown..And ..callling NO senior citizens..NONE If you are over 70 to friggen bad for you ..you can stay and drown with all the other cripples and misfits! You have lived long enough and we only have SO much money to go around! GOOD BYE BON VOYAGE!

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Dallas

 

[DallasApple]

What the hell does this mean? I have many conditions (herniated discs, spinal stenosis, degenerative disc disease, bone loss in my hip/knee, a couple types of arthritis) that you really don't get until you're older, and I'm 21 (and been like this since my preteens). Are we just supposed to crawl in a hole and die somewhere so healthy people can get health care?

NOPE ..you are supposed to drown on a ship sister!.There is only so much room in the last life raft.Its reserved for young HEALTHY children,women and men.Your SOL. :sorry1:

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Dallas

 

[jamaesi]

Dallas are you saying that grand children and great grand children should should spend their money sustaining people to live to be 150 years old if technology advances instead of spending the money on their children?

I know of precious few people who want to be a burden on their family. For who's benefit would you keep your grand mother alive, yours or hers?

Disclaimer: This is to provoke thought, not insult you. If we where on a sinking ship, would we not load our children first on the last life boat if we all could not fit?

Wow, Rick, aren't you heartless.

I'm in massive debt right now because of medical bills, I don't have health insurance even though I'm very sick right now, and am a burden on my family and society. How should I off myself so everyone can be happy? Gun, drug overdose, hanging...? Any thoughts you can provoke up to help me?

 

[DallasApple]

Wow, Rick, aren't you heartless.

I'm in massive debt right now because of medical bills, I don't have health insurance even though I'm very sick right now, and am a burden on my family and society. How should I off myself so everyone can be happy? Gun, drug overdose, hanging...? Any thoughts you can provoke up to help me?

Sounds like drowning was his plan for my grandmother.Maybe you and she could hover together as you go down with the ship?

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Dallas

 

[Apex]

I guess the whole "Savior Obama" image is being thoroughly smashed with this bill.

 

[Storm]

Hard to smash something that only exists in its critics' minds.

EDIT: I take it back, that's the very definition of a strawman.

 

[DallasApple]

Wow, Rick, aren't you heartless.

I'm in massive debt right now because of medical bills, I don't have health insurance even though I'm very sick right now, and am a burden on my family and society. How should I off myself so everyone can be happy? Gun, drug overdose, hanging...? Any thoughts you can provoke up to help me?

NO NO>.On second thought you sound like you cost more money on society than my grandmother has in 96 years.Maybe you should drown in order to save my grandmother? Isnt that only fair? I mean who is it "serving" or "benefitting" for you to stick around?Us or you?

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Dallas

 

[DallasApple]

I guess the whole "Savior Obama" image is being thoroughly smashed with this bill.

As far as I know..the only people who deemed him "Savior Obama" are people who at best cant stand him..and at worst seem to hate every thing he stands for.

Not the people who voted for him or support him.

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Dallas

 

[Apex]

Hard to smash something that only exists in its critics' minds.

EDIT: I take it back, that's the very definition of a strawman.

Huh?


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[Apex]

As far as I know..the only people who deemed him "Savior Obama" are people who at best cant stand him..and at worst seem to hate every thing he stands for.

Not the people who voted for him or support him.

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Dallas

Whoa, I never knew it was such a touchy issue. I always found it funny. Next time I will try to act more serious and less fun loving.

 

[Storm]

Huh?

No one really thinks Obama is a savior. No one ever thought it. It's just sour grapes.

 

[DallasApple]

Whoa, I never knew it was such a touchy issue. I always found it funny. Next time I will try to act more serious and less fun loving.

Well I for one never thouhgt of him as "Savior Obama"..the only people I know spouting that and "laughing" in a fun loving way about it are people who didnt want him in office and are cringing that he is..Those same people waiting for him to make any mistake so they can say SEEE HA HA HAA!! there is your "savior"!Dont play games.Its pretty obvious.

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Dallas

 

[Apex]

No one really thinks Obama is a savior. No one ever thought it. It's just sour grapes.

Sure.

Even so, I do not know why people find it as a criticism of Obama. I always saw it as a joke on a group of his supporters.

 

[Apex]

Well I for one never thouhgt of him as "Savior Obama"..the only people I know spouting that and "laughing" in a fun loving way about it are people who didnt want him in office and are cringing that he is..Those same people waiting for him to make any mistake so they can say SEEE HA HA HAA!! there is your "savior"!Dont play games.Its pretty obvious.

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Dallas

For the record, I wanted Obama more than McCain.