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Obama Threatened To Thwart Israeli Preemptive Attack On Iran?

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Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
...oh I ****ing hope he did. The last thing the region needs is the two biggest powers on either side of it(Israel & Iran) coming to blows.
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Nietzsche said:
...oh I ****ing hope he did. The last thing the region needs is the two biggest powers on either side of it(Israel & Iran) coming to blows.
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Aye. And after our war with Iran (Instigating & supplying our proxy, Iraq), I'd say we really owe Iran big time.
 
metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
At one point supposedly the elder Bush refused to give the Israelis our friend/foe code so as to not have them attack Iraq while we were in the process of liberating Kuwait.
 
tytlyf

tytlyf

Not Religious
All the usual red flags of a nonsensical story. "Someone said". And the fact all the RW media outlets are running with it before fact checking anything.

Report: Obama threatened to shoot down Israeli jets
Report: President Obama Threatened To Shoot Down Israeli Air Force if IAF Mounted Strike Against Iran’s Nuclear Facilities… | The Last Refuge
Report: Obama Threatened To Down Israeli Jets Targeting Iran | The Daily Caller
Report: Obama threatened to fire on Israeli jets attacking Iran - Allen West Republic
Report: Obama Threatened to Shoot Down Israeli Jets - Tea Party News
 
ShivaFan

ShivaFan

Satyameva Jayate
Premium Member
I have no idea if this is true or not. But if true, Obama is threatening to put us into the middle of another war and taking the wrong side (again).

Without the approval of Congress.

I have coined a new acronym.

"Civil Service Extremists" or CSE's.

I will be emailing it to two syndicated radio talk shows this evening who have used my stuff before.

The military and any soldier has the right in the United States to refuse to obey the orders of any commander or the President to attack an allied nation in an active conflict without approval of Congress, nor commit a war crime.

This threat is very close to both, now we know why this despot just compared in his threat to the border agents to only obey him and not Congress that they have to follow his orders just as soldiers have to follow his orders or face severe "consequences".

No they don't.

Congress and the US Military needs to tell the Obama-Nixon-CSE and Enemy of Democracy, no, we wiil not follow nor have to follow any such unconstitional order.

Any more evidence of threats like this, threatening or border agents and military with "orders" needs to be responded with his arrest.
 
Sees

Sees

Dragonslayer
ShivaFan said:
I have no idea if this is true or not. But if true, Obama is threatening to put us into the middle of another war and taking the wrong side (again).

Without the approval of Congress.

I have coined a new acronym.

"Civil Service Extremists" or CSE's.

I will be emailing it to two syndicated radio talk shows this evening who have used my stuff before.

The military and any soldier has the right in the United States to refuse to obey the orders of any commander or the President to attack an allied nation in an active conflict without approval of Congress, nor commit a war crime.

This threat is very close to both, now we know why this despot just compared in his threat to the border agents to only obey him and not Congress that they have to follow his orders just as soldiers have to follow his orders or face severe "consequences".

No they don't.

Congress and the US Military needs to tell the Obama-Nixon-CSE and Enemy of Democracy, no, we wiil not follow nor have to follow any such unconstitional order.

Any more evidence of threats like this, threatening or border agents and military with "orders" needs to be responded with his arrest.
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Obama wasn't talking about attacking anybody
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
tytlyf said:
All the usual red flags of a nonsensical story. "Someone said". And the fact all the RW media outlets are running with it before fact checking anything.
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ShivaFan said:
I have no idea if this is true or not. But if true, Obama is threatening to put us into the middle of another war and taking the wrong side (again).
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Actually, I'd expect the opposite result, ie, we'd avoid being drawn into an Israel vs Iran (& who knows who else might enter) war. And if Israel did attack Iran, & we supported the aggressor, that would be the wrong side.
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Jayhawker Soule said:
… but why should that stop you from disseminating it, right?
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"Disseminating" is the wrong word, you artful wag.
Did you not notice the question mark in the OP's title?
The issue is an interesting one to discuss, even though it's accuracy is highly questionable.
 
ShivaFan

ShivaFan

Satyameva Jayate
Premium Member
According to a conservative talk show host and legal firm, who has a lot of connections besides being highly respected...

... this story is bogus. Not true. And even has an agenda that has nothing to do with an American audience.
 
metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
LuisDantas said:
Obama would regain a lot of my respect if this turned out to be true.
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I doubt that it was stated that explicitly, but Obama may have done what "H.W." did and not be willing to give the IDF the friend/foe code, which would put Israeli planes at risk of getting shot down by our planes.
 
esmith

esmith

Veteran Member
Has the US ever had members of the military refuse to carry out the orders they were given? I'm not saying it would happen, but there could be a lot of US pilots that for some reason had problems finding Israeli aircraft.
 
metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
esmith said:
Has the US ever had members of the military refuse to carry out the orders they were given? I'm not saying it would happen, but there could be a lot of US pilots that for some reason had problems finding Israeli aircraft.
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Without the friend/foe code they couldn't identify whom is out there and which side they're on without putting themselves at grave risk.
 
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