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Obama to visit Golden Temple in Nov

ZooGirl02

Well-Known Member
Um... why, exactly, would visiting a Sikh temple further the image that Obama is a Muslim? Is that supposed to be reasonable thinking?

I just wonder if it could be due to the fact that some Sikhs wear turbans and therefore are automatically associated with Arabs? And of course, we all know that there is a common stereotype about all Arabs being Muslims which of course is not true.
 

Marco19

Researcher
it's all cause of the lack of knowledge, mainly in west the people are sort of ignorant with religious general knowledge, specially in USA (IMO).
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
I just wonder if it could be due to the fact that some Sikhs wear turbans and therefore are automatically associated with Arabs? And of course, we all know that there is a common stereotype about all Arabs being Muslims which of course is not true.
But why would people think that by going to a Sikh temple that that somehow confirmed Obama was a undercover Muslim? The suggestion is practically insane. Obama could use any backlash directly against that backlash and make them an utter laughing stock... and they wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

I think he is, yet again, blowing another "Golden" opportunity - pun intended.
 

beenie

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Um... why, exactly, would visiting a Sikh temple further the image that Obama is a Muslim? Is that supposed to be reasonable thinking?

But why would people think that by going to a Sikh temple that that somehow confirmed Obama was a undercover Muslim? The suggestion is practically insane. Obama could use any backlash directly against that backlash and make them an utter laughing stock... and they wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

I think he is, yet again, blowing another "Golden" opportunity - pun intended.

so very agreed. the whole association evades me as well.
ridiculous.

ugh, i tried to frubal you but i guess i've liked your posts too much recently. ;)
 

linwood

Well-Known Member
I just read in the NYT that he planned on skipping the Temple.

The photo op of him in a head wrap will be blood in the water for the GOP and the ignorant masses in the US.
 

linwood

Well-Known Member
But why would people think that by going to a Sikh temple that that somehow confirmed Obama was a undercover Muslim? The suggestion is practically insane. Obama could use any backlash directly against that backlash and make them an utter laughing stock... and they wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

I think he is, yet again, blowing another "Golden" opportunity - pun intended.

YmirGf,

Are you seriously expecting rational thought from the American masses?
It's sad and disgusting but photos of Obama would be a political nightmare for Obama.
I'm not saying I agree with his decision but it is perfectly understandable.
 

WayFarer

Rogue Scholar
Are you seriously expecting rational thought from the American masses?
The ignorant are easily lead by smooth talking lairs.
The desperate are easily lead by anyone.
(not trying to hijack the thread, but posting that as relevant to this trip and his/politicians flip flopping of decisions out of political self interest)
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
YmirGf,

Are you seriously expecting rational thought from the American masses?
It's sad and disgusting but photos of Obama would be a political nightmare for Obama.
I'm not saying I agree with his decision but it is perfectly understandable.
Linwood, you cannot be serious.

Are you doubting that this could be a golden opportunity to silence these morons once and for all? Honestly, Linwood, anyone who even made a serious reference to this could, quite easily, be handed their arse. It would be a perfect setup, really. Anyone who took the bait is obviously intellectually bankrupt. This could keep the Keith Olberman's and Rachel Madcow's of the world going for weeks... besides the field day the White House could have with anyone who said a peep.

This possible responses could be so deafening that they may just give those who still believe he is a Muslim PAUSE before opening their mouths and being exposed for the fools that they are.

It isn't "perfectly understandable" at all and if anyone thinks it is then, they too, are quite delusional.
 

linwood

Well-Known Member
Linwood, you cannot be serious.

I wish I wasn`t but I am.

Are you doubting that this could be a golden opportunity to silence these morons once and for all? Honestly, Linwood, anyone who even made a serious reference to this could, quite easily, be handed their arse. It would be a perfect setup, really. Anyone who took the bait is obviously intellectually bankrupt. This could keep the Keith Olberman's and Rachel Madcow's of the world going for weeks... besides the field day the White House could have with anyone who said a peep.

Everything you say should be true but it isn`t.
It`s rational, logical, and damn righteous but it`s wrong anyway YmirGF.
You have to be immersed in this **** to understand and maybe my perspective is skewed because of where I am geographically but I`m seriously telling you.
Many people here believe Obama is a closet Muslim, born in Kenya, and wouldn`t know a Sikh from a Muslim if you shoved a Koran up their ***.

This possible responses could be so deafening that they may just give those who still believe he is a Muslim PAUSE before opening their mouths and being exposed for the fools that they are.

I don`t think so. I truly think the ignorance in my country is impenetrable to rational thought when it comes to the politics of my nation.

It isn't "perfectly understandable" at all and if anyone thinks it is then, they too, are quite delusional.

That`s a little rough.
I don`t think I`m delusional at all (The deluded rarely do) :) and yes I do find Obamas decision perfectly understandable in this political climate.

YmirGF, I drive to work every day past a herd of idiots waving signs that simultaneously scream about the evils of socialized medicine while demanding the government keep their hands off medicare.

My country is in the midst of the worst economic recession since the 1920`s due to GOP tax policies and GOP financial anti-regulations policies, and corporate greed.
The people the GOP have running for office in this mid term election are doing so on a platform of more de-regulation for financial institutions, corporate de-regulation and lowering taxes!They are kicking the crap out of the Dems and independents in the polls running on the same or worse platforms that have nearly destroyed us.
Many of the GOP candidates winning in the polls were the very same corporate executives who put us in this situation.
Many of them have been found guilty of fraud and have been made to pay enormous fines for their part in this mess yet they are WINNING!!

My countrymen are supporting the very people who have spent their careers ******* us over and my countrymen KNOW they have been ******* us over yet they support them anyway.

I don`t want to fight with you YmirGF but I don`t think you adequately understand the depth of insanity that has overtaken my country.

These people seem perfectly happy to march themselves right into abject poverty proudly and arrogantly carrying the banner for a proven failed utterly delusional ideology.

It`s terrifying
 
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Boethiah

Penguin
Well, on the bright side, this article has caused me to learn something new today. I am still very hazy of Sikhism but I have learned about some architecture and culture I didn't previously know! :D

Also, if he would have went the right wing media would have gone to town. I can see it now, "President Obama declares Jihad on the United States, hurts chances of re-election in 2012".

And that is only a bit exaggerated. It is sad, but it is true. There is no logic or reason in the media. It is all just one big entertainment industry and the news is a manifestation of that to a certain extent. The ignorant would have used this on so many levels. It is illogical and could be bested, but in practice this would be a huge blemish on Obama's political record.

A truly insane country the U.S is.
 

chinu

chinu
The True Golden temple to which Guru's reffered is "Human Body"
They stated that "God" live in Golden temple of "Human Body"

As a sience teacher devlops the model for students to educate them,
Similarly, Guru,s created the outer golden temple as a model for their seekers or students or sikhs for "Spirituality"

Ony the Pure-being (khalsa) can enter in this golden temple of body to worship "God"
To enter in this true golden temple is the subject of "Love" not Money,

Yes! anybody can visit the Outer golden temple very easily which was created by the guru's as model to educate their students or seekers,

But! it is very difficult to worship "God" in the true golden temple of human body, it is only possible when somebody walks on the path of spirituality seriousely or wholeheartedly with all hard efforts,

Intresting thing that people spend lot of money to treavel accross the countries to visit this Outer Golden temple, But they feel difficult to visit in the True Golden temple of body which is near than nearest,

Well sorry for anything written pinching or wrong,
Goodbye,



chinu.
 
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