October surprises.

[Subduction Zone]

Will there be any October surprises this election? The closest that I have seen are the accusations of former Sports Illustrated swimsuit model and one time girlfriend of Jeffrey Epstein is that Trump groped her after what appears to have been a setup between the two men:

On the Zoom call, which ABC News obtained a video of, Williams, who first began speaking publicly about the alleged incident with Trump and Epstein in Facebook posts dating back to 2020, said she felt like the alleged groping incident was a "twisted game" between Trump and Epstein.


"I felt so humiliated and so sick to my stomach and was so upset, and as I absorbed what happened a few minutes later, I felt like that was some sort of sick bet or game between the two of them," Williams said. "I was rolled in there like a piece of meat for some kind of challenge or twisted game, and I felt horrendous."

"I figured it was time to share this and I'm ready to win this election," Williams, a longtime Democrat who has been active in politics, said on the Zoom call. "The thought of that monster being back in the White House is my absolute worst nightmare."

'It was orchestrated'​

Williams told ABC News the alleged encounter, when she was 24, lasted no more than ten minutes. "I was in shock and I was frozen," Williams said.

"He just put his arms out and pulled me towards him and his hands on some part of my body the entire time," Williams claimed in the interview. "His hands would touch the sides of my breasts, not the front, but the sides of my breasts, my waist, and then slid down to my butt and just kept kind of running up and down my body while the two of them were carrying on a conversation."

Speaking with ABC News, Williams explained that shortly after the alleged incident, she began to suspect that the encounter with Trump and Epstein had been "orchestrated," but went into denial about it because of the shame it made her feel.

Ex-model who accused Trump of groping her in 1990s says Epstein mentioned Trump 'every time we spoke'

The ex-model who has accused Donald Trump of groping her in front of Jeffrey Epstein in the 1990s shares her observations about Trump and Epstein's relationship.

abcnews.go.com

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

You do realize that it's the evening of October 27th, right?
The only October surprise is that the Trump of January thru September has been normalized.

 

[McBell]

The only October surprise is that the Trump of January thru September has been normalized.

Wait...
Were you really surprised by that?

 

[Subduction Zone]

You do realize that it's the evening of October 27th, right?
The only October surprise is that the Trump of January thru September has been normalized.

Actually I disagree. It was not the story that I linked. The October Surprise did not come from the Democrats this time. It came from the Republicans themselves. This elections October Surprise was the Trump MSG rally. It was such extreme self destruction that I cannot see Trump winning now.

 

[Watchmen]

Actually I disagree. It was not the story that I linked. The October Surprise did not come from the Democrats this time. It came from the Republicans themselves. This elections October Surprise was the Trump MSG rally. It was such extreme self destruction that I cannot see Trump winning now.

You think those voting for him agree with the media’s coverage? The hyper-criticism actually emboldens them.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You think those voting for him agree with the media’s coverage? The hyper-criticism actually emboldens them.

The media has been very unbalanced this election Trump keeps saying crazy things. He keeps demonstrating his own terrible incompetence and you hardly hear a word about it from them. Your accusation is backwards.

 

[Watchmen]

The media has been very unbalanced this election Trump keeps saying crazy things. He keeps demonstrating his own terrible incompetence and you hardly hear a word about it from them. Your accusation is backwards.

We must have different headlines come across our news feeds.

 

[Subduction Zone]

We must have different headlines come across our news feeds.

Probably. You seem to follow the right wing wacko news sites. You appear to have no clue as to how Trump's latest insanity and incompetence has been ignored by the press. Did your sources list how at a "town hall" where a candidate is supposed to answer questions of his followers he just stood and swayed like a kindergarten student to music for 39 minutes instead of responding to the ultimate softball questions. He looked as if he was having a full blown case of dementia and his poor handlers did not know what to do.

 

[David1967]

Will there be any October surprises this election? The closest that I have seen are the accusations of former Sports Illustrated swimsuit model and one time girlfriend of Jeffrey Epstein is that Trump groped her after what appears to have been a setup between the two men:

No. I think that the vast majority of people have already decided who they are voting for. I have.

 

[Watchmen]

Probably. You seem to follow the right wing wacko news sites. You appear to have no clue as to how Trump's latest insanity and incompetence has been ignored by the press. Did your sources list how at a "town hall" where a candidate is supposed to answer questions of his followers he just stood and swayed like a kindergarten student to music for 39 minutes instead of responding to the ultimate softball questions. He looked as if he was having a full blown case of dementia and his poor handlers did not know what to do.

You're ignorant as to what I do and do not follow. For the record (as they say), I follow BBC, NPR, and the Guardian. Do any of those fit your description of "wacko news sites." Are you aware that I did not vote for Trump? Some on the Left are so far gone that they are unable to recognize the flaws in their own party (and before you try to make a false equivalency, I did not vote Republican - I'm as moderate and independent as they come).

 

[Subduction Zone]

You're ignorant as to what I do and do not follow. For the record (as they say), I follow BBC, NPR, and the Guardian. Do any of those fit your description of "wacko news sites." Are you aware that I did not vote for Trump? Some on the Left are so far gone that they are unable to recognize the flaws in their own party (and before you try to make a false equivalency, I did not vote Republican - I'm as moderate and independent as they come).

Then it is your interpretation of them that is incredibly off. Oh and there are flaws in the left, trust me, I was Republican most of my life. But Trump has ruined the Republican Party. It is now a joke. And he is a serious threat to democracy.

You also do not seem to listen well. I never said that the media does not report negatively on Trump. The problem is that they under report Trump's insanity. They do not hold both candidates to the same standard. If they did they would look as if they were incredibly pro-Harris. In twenty years they may have figured out how those one the right fell for such a fraud, but right now it is too fresh.

 

[Watchmen]

Then it is your interpretation of them that is incredibly off. Oh and there are flaws in the left, trust me, I was Republican most of my life. But Trump has ruined the Republican Party. It is now a joke. And he is a serious threat to democracy.

You also do not seem to listen well. I never said that the media does not report negatively on Trump. The problem is that they under report Trump's insanity. They do not hold both candidates to the same standard. If they did they would look as if they were incredibly pro-Harris. In twenty years they may have figured out how those one the right fell for such a fraud, but right now it is too fresh.

I’m curious, do you think degrading comments help conversations?

 

[Subduction Zone]

I’m curious, do you think degrading comments help conversations?

They may not. So let's ignore those. Do you disagree that the two have not been subject to the same standards? I see a far stronger reaction from the press if Harris is merely wrong where they seem to give Trump a pass far too often.