Of what value to America is Israel, Palestine and the Middle East, other than an ongoing problem?

[Redneck Mystic]

What’s going on in Palestine is rooted in the 3 Abrahamic religions’s Scriptures.
Israel’s leader and leaders are convinced God is on their side. Hamas and Islam’s leaders are convinced God is on their side. Bible people in America are convinced America has to side with Israel, because God is on Israel’s side, and because Jews had Jesus killed and thus Israel has to defend Palestine from Islam, and America must help Israel do that.
An American president who disagrees with that will not be reelected, and might not live much longer. Yet, America cutting Israel loose and getting out of the Middle East altogether is the solution for America. But it won’t happen, because of the Bible. A huge ironic unpleasant snake eating its own tail.
If Muslim jihadists knew what a jihad really is, they would not have enough washing machines to clean all their soiled diapers. Ditto their Christian and Jewish crusader counterparts. Jihad is an internal war, period, the end.
I don’t see any way to have a peace agreement that can be enforced. Nor a re-build Gaza agreement that can be enforced. The religion currents are way too strong to be contained and constrained by something written on paper. Of what value to America is Israel, other than an ongoing problem? Of what value to America is the Middle East, other than an ongoing problem?
There is technology for a road-tested electrolysis device in the US Patent Office, which converts tap water to hydrogen fuel, and oxygen as a byproduct, and can be installed in any old or new car or truck - a sedan can go 250 miles on a gallon of tap water - which can allow America and the rest of the world to tell the oil kingdoms and Big Oil adios.

 

[loverofhumanity]

The problem in the Middle East is not Israel or America but Iran.

 

[Redneck Mystic]

The problem in the Middle East is not Israel or America but Iran.

they are are responsible in their own way, but the problem is rooted in religion, which is crystal clear if you observe Iran, Israel, Hamas, Islam, America.

 

[Brickjectivity]

There is technology for a road-tested electrolysis device in the US Patent Office, which converts tap water to hydrogen fuel, and oxygen as a byproduct, and can be installed in any old or new car or truck - a sedan can go 250 miles on a gallon of tap water - which can allow America and the rest of the world to tell the oil kingdoms and Big Oil adios.

There is a problem with that. Hydrogen does come from water, but water-->hydrogen conversion won't work to run a vehicle. The electrolysis takes a lot of power, and that plus compressing the hydrogen gas (to put into your automobile) takes even more power. You have to get that power somewhere else such as from solar panels or from the grid. Both of those take power: power to split the water, power to compress the gas into tanks. Then you rustle that hydrogen tank into your vehicle in its highly compressed and volatile form. So the vehicle cannot take water and make hydrogen to burn it.

You could store hydrogen near your home in large compressed tanks. It would be useful for welding without paying for gas, and would heat your home, run a tractor and a generator. Researchers and companies are looking for ways to make it practical for automobiles and trucks. Right now its just not working.

 

[LuisDantas]

One issue is that vehicles are far from the only reason for petrol to be valuable and even needed.

Another is that there is no upside to attempting to deal with Islam with avoidance alone.

Political boundaries are, unavoidably, a fiction that won't ever fully stop dangerous beliefs, ideas or people.

 

[Redneck Mystic]

One issue is that vehicles are far from the only reason for petrol to be valuable and even needed.

Another is that there is no upside to attempting to deal with Islam with avoidance alone.

Political boundaries are, unavoidably, a fiction that won't ever fully stop dangerous beliefs, ideas or people.

A friend of mine can take apart and put back together just about anything that uses an internal combustion engine: cars, trucks, motorcycles, and tractors. Besides regular cars and trucks, he worked on Lotus, Porsche and Ferrari. He is a welder and a machinist. He taught economics in several colleges. He told me about technology in the U.S. Patent Office in Washington, D.C. that allows cars and trucks to run on hydrogen extracted from tap water for what a local water company charge$ for water. I asked him to write it down. See his report below.
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Dear Friend, please copy and paste the below into your word processor and do with it as you see fit.
The Hydrogen powered car is a reality. When it is looked back on, T. Townsend Brown will be the father. Mr. Brown engineered a series of vehicles and internal combustion engines to run on hydrogen and the hydrogen relative known as Yull Brown’s Gas(HHO also called oxyhydrogen). T.T. Brown did this in his lab at Winston Salem NC. The thing that scared so many people aware of his successes was that violent blowback, backfires, and internal flame were inherently an issue with early development of hydrogen as a fuel. With the flammability/combustibility of hydrogen the gas required careful regulation, precisely machined throttle systems, and owners who would take care of their vehicles. Townsend Brown conceptualized two methods: a fuel cell that would contain hydrogen or brown’s gas and protect driver’s from explosions. Brown also proposed that if an anhydride could be formulated, just as kitty litter soaks up the ammonia from cat urine- the right anhydride could be engineered to suck up hydrogen and render it safe
The Atomic Energy Commission was not so happy with Lazar- the anhydride he was manufacturing could potentially be made with a particle accelerator and in the cleaving of hydrogen from water, someone might make a hydrogen bomb. This in the words of Penn & Teller: bull****! Electrolysis could do no such thing with water, it simply transitions water from a liquid to either hydrogen and oxygen or Brown’s gas.
Nevada Representative and later Senator Harry Reid was no friend of development of hydrogen engine. He encouraged overzealous regulatory behavior which stopped much promising research and development, putting pressure on the AEC which was headquartered at Nevada's National Security Site, known informally as Los Alamos National Laboratory.
Lazar was never allowed to market his system because the AEC was hung up on the anhydride. Because Lazar’s patents were restricted, people cannot look at the rough sketch of his system or his anhydride. Lazar’s technology could be installed in a new or used car or truck. In 1992, Lazar advertised $8,000 to put his tech in a car or truck.

In the meantime, others have had special shielding equipment made into their trunks and they install small to medium cylinders of hydrogen, regulators, and then run metal tubing into their fuel injection systems and some will add different methods of top cylinder lubrication. Some produce their own Brown’s Gas via Electrolysis and some refine it further to just get the hydrogen. They use it to charge their cylinders.
For a car the size of a 4 door Toyota Yaris or Prius the 1.6litre engine can range 220-240 miles off a gallon of water, being very precise with the stoichiometry. A heavier sedan with a 2.0 to 2.2 liter engine can range 200 miles on hydrogen or Brown’s gas generated at home.
However as the National Transportation Safety Administration have pointed out on numerous occasions, tanker trucks(18 wheelers) which haul volatile chemicals in gaseous form or at the precipice of change from liquid to gas, to make the hauling of anhydrous ammonia safer, to make hauling acetylene used in cutting torches, propane= anhydrides have been developed to line the tankers hauled on US highways. Those patents are not trade secrets and they use much prior art that is public. The result is quite simply that anhydrides are being developed by private citizens and private corporations to further reduce the risk of the use of hydrogen as fuel. Different methods and different materials, some inspired by kids toys, some inspired by industrial and agricultural applications, and some inspired by government/armed forces use.
There is tremendous potential energy in water. Burning hydrogen is clean and the combustion of the Brown’s gas can lead to the by-product of oxygen release.
Toyota, GM, Hyundai, and Honda have all built hydrogen vehicles and made them safe enough to lease to people who report excellent driveability. They are:
GM Electrovan
Toyota FCHV
Honda FC
Hyundai Tuscon
Toyota Mirai
It is strange that corporations are several generations into hydrogen vehicles. Private citizen scientists, engineers, and tinkerers are coming up with their own home brew setups. But mass production is headed off by the US federal government and automakers who will only test their vehicles off US shores and not sell them, only lease them. Even when the projects are a success the vehicles are recalled as property of the companies and they are destroyed.
Electric vehicles use electricity we don’t have due to the fact we are using the maximum natural resources we have. The batteries that propel these vehicles eventually quit taking a charge- that is the nature of a battery. The problem is that we then have to deal with the waste created by these huge batteries and much of that waste is toxic. How many Yucca Mountains can we have in this country? We should not have the Yucca Mountain we have.
The Buffalo Springfield band had a song: “There’s something happening here, and what it is ain’t exactly clear… …stop, baby, what’s that sound, everybody look what’s going down...”