Official 2008 Presidential Election thread - Discuss/Defend/Debate

[Reverend Rick]

So who is the most conservative candidate running for president?

 

[Comprehend]

So who is the most conservative candidate running for president?

Ron Paul?

 

[Radio Frequency X]

So who is the most conservative candidate running for president?

On political and economic issues, the most conservative candidate is Ron Paul. On moral and value-issues the most conservative candidate is Sam Brownback.

 

[Mathematician]

Ron Paul?

I'd put him more as a libertarian than a conservative, except on the issue of gay rights. Newt Gingrich and Brownback are definately way-out there conservatives.

 

[Comprehend]

WASHINGTON - Mitt Romney won the most support for the Republican presidential nomination in a straw poll of GOP activists attending an annual conference. (full article)

CPAC STRAW POLL RESULTS:

Mitt Romney 21%
Rudy Giuliani 17%.
Sam Brownback 15%
Newt Gingrich 14%
John McCain, 12%


Romney surprise?

 

[Ody]

Flappy, post leftism, look it up.

 

[Mercy Not Sacrifice]

After listening to Giuliani lecture Sean Hannity on respecting differing opinions and on his pressuring of Democrats and Republicans to take an actual stand on the Iraq war (like Obama has done and like Giuliani has done), I am throwing all my support behind Giuliani, until I know who the Libertarian Candidate is. Giuliani sounds unlike any politician I've ever heard going into an election. He actually has me excited!

OOOHH! Is there a link to this video?

 

[FFH]

WASHINGTON - Mitt Romney won the most support for the Republican presidential nomination in a straw poll of GOP activists attending an annual conference. (full article)

CPAC STRAW POLL RESULTS:

Mitt Romney 21%
Rudy Giuliani 17%.
Sam Brownback 15%
Newt Gingrich 14%
John McCain, 12%


Romney surprise?

All I can say is one word, PROPHECY.....

I am surprised it's that high though.

 

[Mercy Not Sacrifice]

All I can say is one word, PROPHECY.....

I am surprised it's that high though.

Newt Gingrich is insane if he runs. The Democrats would eat. His. Lunch. In their advertisments.

 

[Radio Frequency X]

OOOHH! Is there a link to this video?

I was on the radio show, not the Fox show. I heard it while I was in my car so I don't know if it is online or not. But it was hysterical. Hannity didn't even respond to Giuliani's criticism. He jut changed his attitude very quickly. I'm glad there is someone out there that Hannity is scared of.

 

[SoyLeche]

Romney surprise?

We're all going to be surprised when Romney wins and suddenly wants to have multiple Vice Presidents

 

[nutshell]

There's an article on msnbc right now talking about peaking too early. I think Giulianni and Obama might be facing that. For example, a year before primaries (where we are right now), some guy named bill Clinton was only getting 4% of the vote before winning the primary and general elections a year/year and a half later.

 

[Mercy Not Sacrifice]

There's an article on msnbc right now talking about peaking too early. I think Giulianni and Obama might be facing that. For example, a year before primaries (where we are right now), some guy named bill Clinton was only getting 4% of the vote before winning the primary and general elections a year/year and a half later.

I would agree with this. Richardson vs. Gingrich, perhaps? j/k

 

[Radio Frequency X]

There's an article on msnbc right now talking about peaking too early. I think Giulianni and Obama might be facing that. For example, a year before primaries (where we are right now), some guy named bill Clinton was only getting 4% of the vote before winning the primary and general elections a year/year and a half later.

It's true. The Evangelical Christian Crowd that controls a large minority of the Republican Party are going to crucify Giuliani over moral issues. That means that at least 33% of the vote will go to whoever becomes the Morals Candidate, most likely Romney. McCain has all the big Republican GOP support, but this is a man that couldn't stand up to George W. Bush in a debate, how will he fair against someone like Rudy? In the end, I think it'll be Giuliani vs. Hillary in the Presidential Subway series. It's too sexy for the media not to push it.

I also wanted to add that Obama's campaign is not being run well at all. It is quite obvious that he lacks the staff quality of the Clinton campaign and frankly, I think Obama is going to continue getting himself into trouble (like he did with his church, uninviting his pastor and inviting his associate pastor, lying to the media about why and so forth). This isn't representative of a problem with Obama. It is indicative of a disorganized, but ambitious, campaign staff. Hillary will keep her nose clean through most of the campaign, stay on the offensive, and work on each individual group to get as many votes as she can. Obama will remain on the defensive, and depend upon his political philosophies and ideals to win over Democratic idealists. But they are a minority within the party, and will not be able to save Obama in the end.

 

[UnityNow101]

I am getting behind Dennis Kucinich, believe it or not. The man has "no strings attached" and is not led by the big money corporations. He has a "12 Point" plan for Iraq and is the only candidate I believe that has voted to defund the Iraqi war. He doesn't just talk a big talk. I like Barack Obama and would vote for him if he got the nomination, and cannot stand Hillary Clinton. I am just praying that it is not Clinton/Obama...That would be sickening to me. Kucinich/Obama '08!

 

[Comprehend]

well, first quarter fundraising numbers are in:

Hillary 26 million
Obama - 25 million
Romney - 23.5 million
Guliani - 15 million

does this make any difference whatever to the race? will the fundraising numbers affect the poll numbers?

 

[Comprehend]

Romney is leading the Republican polls in Iowa and New Hampshire but is still around 10% for the nation as a whole...

 

[FFH]

well, first quarter fundraising numbers are in:

Hillary 26 million
Obama - 25 million
Romney - 23.5 million
Guliani - 15 million

does this make any difference whatever to the race? will the fundraising numbers affect the poll numbers?

Hmmm, well Hillary obviously has the advantage financially, but that may be due to "connections" in high places...

Kennedy won office simply because he had the most money. which is mainly used to advertise in any campaign...It's all about getting the word out through advertising.... His father helped him financially, with the money he made in the market, just before it crashed in 1929. He pulled out at it's peak, just before it went down...

It looks like it's coming down to Hillary and Mitt...

Wow, it will be a good one...

 

[SoyLeche]

Hmmm, well Hillary obviously has the advantage financially, but that may be due to "connections" in high places...

Kennedy won office simply because he had the most money. which is mainly used to advertise in any campaign...It's all about getting the word out through advertising.... His father helped him financially, with the money he made in the market, just before it crashed in 1929. He pulled out at it's peak, just before it went down...

It looks like it's coming down to Hillary and Mitt...

Wow, it will be a good one...

Read "Freakonomics". The causal relationship between money and winning elections doesn't show up in the actual data. It is more likely that the high amount of money is caused by perceptions of who has a better chance of winning.

 

[Draka]

I really don't see a Clinton/Obama ticket here. I think it's much more likely to be Clinton/Vilsack. The association between Clinton and Vilsack might actually help her come time for the Iowa caucuses. She gets our former governor alongside her, campaigning with and for her, it just may sway the people of Iowa. And we all know how pivotal Iowa can be when it comes to which candidate has the stuff to make it through. They've been long-time friends and she's even helping him to repay some of the debt he incurred from trying to run himself. He just didn't have the monetary resources to launch such a campaign. He tried though. Gotta give him that much.