Oh, NetDoc One remark.

[TranceAm]

Just for my personal amusement, and I guess to make a point so to speak.

I thought it was remarkable to advise others to put me under the button so to speak, so they couldn't read my thoughts if they were as disturbing by them as they were to you...

Remarkable is that you yourself continue to read me...

I guess that is a good example of politics in religion...
Also the value of religion as a personal blinder put on by someone else.
Preacher live thy words.. How else can we believe you, then by your actions?

This is also my last post here.
To be honest.. I hate persons that edit my posts without consulting and thus insulting me, I hate it even more, when posts are "deleted"...
No Forum is worthwhile to stay, when it is only a matter of time until Wiston starts editing the posts and change what was written in a true orwellian way.

I hope you'all have a fine time together...
TVoR.. Respect.
All others: Peace.

 

[EnhancedSpirit]

Don't give up on us, yet. I am a rather newby here. And more likely, your posts were just out of place. Everyone is given the chance to speak freely, as long as you do not just go around putting people down.

But the Forums have a tough job of keeping all these things organized. There is a place for everything. I have even found a place were I can curse and scream and yell at individuals/or arguements (in my journal)

 

[Majikthise]

Hey TA,

I've missed you here in the forums.Please consider sticking around, maybe posting once in a while when a topic catches your intrest.

Dan

 

[Prima]

I second Majikthise's comment, I hope you'll decide to stay

 

[michel]

I second Majikthise's comment, I hope you'll decide to stay

I agree T A, we need differing opinions - just make sure that when you say something, you say it politely! You should be alright if you stick to that rule.

 

[Bastet]

For the record, TranceAm - if anyone were to put you on their ignore list (as that is what I assume you mean by "put me under the button"), one can only assume that they have the nouse to do it for their own reasons, not to follow blindly what another poster on this forum has suggested. I myself put you on my ignore list once or twice, because it was the only way I could stop myself from tearing you to shreds publicly at the time. It's a very handy feature, and if anyone has put you on ignore at any point in your stay here, I can only assume that their reasons were akin to my own, and nothing to do with someone else's intervention.

Moderators and Admin do an excellent job here, and while not everyone may agree with them when they edit or delete a post, or thread, that is their job - and when you register you are saying you will abide by the terms of agreement. Abiding by the moderator/admin decisions is a part of that, as it is in any forum. It is their right to edit any comments they feel are inappropriate, rude, off topic, etc. as they see fit. I have had several of my own posts removed, and, after I cooled down, I could see why. If you can't abide by the rules, then by all means leave - just remember that you agreed to them when you first registered, as everyone else here has. I am sure there was no malice intended by anyone involved in editing your posts, but then again, you always were one for conspiracy theories, so I doubt you'll believe that.

 

[retrorich]

I, too, am giving some serious thought to leaving RF, since a thread I posted was deleted without any explanation to me. A reply I posted to another thread was deleted with the weak explanation, "off topic."

 

[Pah]

I, too, am giving some serious thought to leaving RF, since a thread I posted was deleted without any explanation to me. A reply I posted to another thread was deleted with the weak explanation, "off topic."

If you can tell me the names of the threads, I'll look into it. I know that some communication has been sent to you for other moderator action

 

[retrorich]

If you can tell me the names of the threads, I'll look into it. I know that some communication has been sent to you for other moderator action

pah: I will PM that information to you.

 

[CaptainXeroid]

Bastet said it very well, so I'll just add this.

I serve as a moderator on another forum, and I often get nasty PMs when I have to act. I am willing to bet that the mods/admins on RF get paid about the same thing I do....Jack Squat I don't act because the power gets me off, I do it because I am serving the community of users on that site, and I'm going out on a limb and stating that the same is true of the mods/admins on RF.

One time a thread descended into personal attacks, so I had to lock it. Within 5 minutes I had 2 very angry PMs. One called me 'a typical Right Wing jerk who ends the discussion because he's wrong' and the other called me a 'Liberal sympathasizer...a Conservative in name only.' I guess if you cheese off both sides, you're doing a good job.

 

[eridun]

I too have been a moderator and it is a fine line to walk. usually your foot is on both sides, and therefor both sides are equally offended. (though you'd be hard pressed to get them to admit that)

I resigned as a mod because the personal attacks were more than i could put up with at a job that I wasn't getting paid for.

On the other hand, i have known mod who used their powers to enhance popularity contests. It can go both ways.
If you feel you need to leave because a mod was doing his job or another user was not making you feel welcome... well, look around at the other thousands of members and see if you can be friends with some of them instead.

 

[michel]

I only ever put one member on the 'ignore' list, but being naturally 'nosey' I couldn't keep him/her on it for long!:jiggy:

 

[TranceAm]

For the most dense:

A little explanation, after this post the moderators can discontinue my nick and password, I will have written everything I wanted to write to you.

For starters..

New thoughts are scary, they are dangerous. Especially for established religions..
If you don't think this is so.. Just imagine that the earth is flat, since everyone believes it. Afterall authority has been telling it to be that way for so long.. It has to be true.
You try to explain to peers that it ain't. (And get away with it alive!!!!)

I posted a thread, In this thread I posted all the evidence I could find that give an alternative ending to the 911 story, especially the purpetrator part.
Afterall, If everything linked to an certain meme is on an "I believe" basis... We are talking about a religion.
And who says that a religion or a "I/We believe" system of thoughts all have to center around the afterlife.

In no time I was an "disturbed anti-semite"... A label I can easely bare, I have been called stranger or more unfitting names...
People were encouraged NOT to read the threads, and there was no discusion at all about what the postings contained in information, its or their proof for the claims set forth.. Only personal attacks in the traditional "anti semite" form that seemingly were allowed by the mods...

And remember not for saying that jewish people are bad people or should be hated for what they believe.. No.. Not at all, just pointing out that NOT investigated links to 911 with especially the "cheering, highfiving"Jewish players that were arrested in NJ with pictures of the buildings have NOT been investigated.
And what has been investigated has been declared "National Security"...

Well sir, you tell me, what part about the truth, about 911, is by its nature endangering the National Security of the United States of America... What part of the truth could endanger the national security that intense, that the existance of the USA comes into danger if it gets out.... And we are talking about the truth here, not fairy tales, not myths, that easely can be discarded by the truth..

Now everyone and his brother can claim that God or a deity has choosen him or her to do his or her work.. No problem... As long as you stay out of others lives.. Freedom is given.. Never taken.

However, this proclaimed chooseness is only applyable on yourself.. Never on others.. It doesn't mean you are above criticism. It doesn't mean you can't be a murderer, It doesn't mean you can't be a victim... It only means that YOU and everyone that BELIEVES your claim, think that GOD him/her or itself has choosen you.
For everyone else, that this meme (Thought pattern.) doesn't apply to, you are a "normal" human, with normal human rights... And most important the same rights by law.
This comes with presumed innocense... However, 2 months of investigation by the FBI, followed by a deportation to Israel, and all the proof/information gathered during this investigation was declared secret and a matter of national security... Strange way to hold up a presumed innocense.

Anyway, this was about the button issue.

Bastet, you know or should know that you could have engaged in ANY discussion with me, the descision was yours not to do so, for one reason in or with you...
The claim "tearing to shreds", lets just say: "I don't believe you!" and leave it at that.
And conspiracies.. They don't excist.. Noone has a second agenda. Everyone is doing its best to maintian this world for the next generations.

Michel.. The first post deleted, told something about your Tarot card avatar.
The Major 9, The Wise man on the mountain top, shining his light, to look for other lights on other mountain tops.. Not to many know the card also stands for treason.

About right wing or left wing jerks.. I don't care for what side of the coin you preferr to be. Or for what Ideal you love to martyr yourself, if you have such an ideal.. Afterall the human race come with an OR in the "Fight or Flee".
But what you put out in writing, you should stand for.

That brings me to the agreement... One has to agree to...
I guess my signature says it all.. Unless you are a hypocrite American that thinks that being a patriot is having bought a bumpersticker and a little flagg on top of the car as has been proclaimed by authority. But then again.. Seems normal these days to say something else then you feel or claim you stand for....

I will leave you behind with a little piece I wrote...

A free spirit.

Roaming in its own mind,
Without fear of what it may find.

Peeking thru every window.
Opening every door with the key of childish enthusiasm..
Looking for a new place of amazement.
An new viepoint to enjoy.
Another train of words to follow to its end station,
and ponder about the logical conclusion that will follow.

Oh man.. What en enjoyment..

No fear.. Imagine... Nothing to fear... (Can you?)

Not even the things you can imagine or others imaginations as told to you by stories, even the ones that have autoritie since they are written... And so long ago!!!

No politician waving the fear finger..
No cop waving the fear baton.
No priest the threatning sinner.
No racist with his moral stance.

No crime... Hidden in surounded by faked inocence or with a system flag lie. (Anything but read myself.)
Imagine a computer having certain parts of his mind "isolated" because he fears what is hidden in those adresses... And humans are so much more then computers.. Yes indeed, they can walk and if trained right, they even manage to pee in the toilet instead of over themselves... Disclaimer, For the time being and neglecting evolution.

Lie after lie.. Piles of them.. Nicely stacked on date... ?Recognize your mind?
Lies stacked upto where you imagine the ceiling of your imagination.. (Throu wich transparancy I look at you!)
You, who are me... Afterall, I am so, I who am looking at myself... Then... Long ago... Or even now...

Noone of these examples trigger a fear... Nothing I have to watch for out...

Not even the one thing that is so horrifying.. Death..
There is no eternal life. Unless proven.
If existance will continue without physical appearance, is going to stay the question
that will be the last question.

And there are 2 possible answers.. One is in the form of the dissapearing of the question. But not by an answer <Period!> ..
So LOGICAL conclusion, there is NOTHING to fear.

So what is keeping us from partying ourselves tru life...
We have to work.. While nature was supplying us in plentyfull. Well, of course until the church thought that rabbits gave a good example of how to create more rabbits... Ever wondered why we need war after war caused by cousins to get rid of all those people?

We have to obey.. While we have just as many rights as anyone else.
We have to look down.. While we have pride.. Just as much pride as anyone else.
We have to worship.. But are we really worshipping the most important thing... Life, or that imaginairy thing... Death?
We have to fear.. But what is there to fear, that is real?

I Trance, what Am I?

And point is not.. That what or why I have written this is to "wake you up"... I couldn't care less.
Afterall while you are wearing your proverbial knees out from getting by on your knees during your travels thru the valley of shaddows, I dance like there is no tommorow.
I think that is called.. You are free to do whatever you want with your freedom.. But it ends, near anyone elses nose...

And let me emphatise.. the "END" s...

​

Aloneness
Major Arcana IX
http://www.osho.com/magazine/tarot/TarotCardNew.cfm?All=Yes&Nr=10
http://www.osho.com/magazine/tarot/picCards/zen010Aloneness.jpg

When you are alone you are not alone, you are simply lonely - and there is a tremendous difference between loneliness and aloneness. When you are lonely you are thinking of the other, you are missing the other.

Loneliness is a negative state. You are feeling that it would have been better if the other
were there - your friend, your wife, your mother, your beloved, your husband. It would have been good if the other were there, but the other is not. Loneliness is absence of the other.

Aloneness is the presence of oneself. Aloneness is very positive. It is a presence,
overflowing presence. You are so full of presence that you can fill the whole universe with your presence and there is no need for anybody.

Osho The Discipline of Transcendence, Volume 1 Chapter 2

Commentary:

When there is no "significant other" in our lives we can either be lonely, or enjoy the freedom that solitude brings. When we find no support among others for our deeply felt truths, we can either feel isolated and bitter, or celebrate the fact that our vision is strong enough even to survive the powerful human need for the approval of family, friends or colleagues.

If you are facing such a situation now, be aware of how you are choosing to view your "aloneness" and take responsibility for the choice you have made.

The humble figure in this card glows with a light that emanates from within. One of Gautam Buddha's most significant contributions to the spiritual life of humankind was to insist to his disciples, "Be a light unto yourself."
Ultimately, each of us must develop within ourselves the capacity to make our way through the darkness without
any companions, maps or guide.

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Have a nice journey. :162:

 

[Bastet]

Bastet, you know or should know that you could have engaged in ANY discussion with me, the descision was yours not to do so, for one reason in or with you...

I'm quite aware that if I had wanted to enter into any discussion with you, that I could have done so. I simply didn't want to; so I didn't. No user, whether I like them or not, has ever stopped me from participating in a discussion I wished to join...I have more backbone than that. Your permission was unnecessary.

The claim "tearing to shreds", lets just say: "I don't believe you!" and leave it at that.

Believe it or not, as you like, ducky. Your disbelief doesn't change the fact in the slightest.

And conspiracies.. They don't excist.. Noone has a second agenda. Everyone is doing its best to maintian this world for the next generations.

I'm merely speaking of the impression I - and many others - got from the claims you have made in posts. Many of them smack loudly of "conspiracy theory"...whether you think the term applies to them or not. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

 

[michel]

[PART QUOTE=TranceAm]For the most dense:



........."Michel.. The first post deleted, told something about your Tarot card avatar.
The Major 9, The Wise man on the mountain top, shining his light, to look for other lights on other mountain tops.. Not to many know the card also stands for treason"..............


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Have a nice journey. :162:
[/PART QUOTE]

I dont know which book on Tarot you use TA, but IX is not the 'wise man' - he is 'the Hermit'.
The Hermit's prayer is :-
In my lonliness I cry out to Thee, dear Father. So often I feel neglected and unappreciated. My life lacks joy and I come to Thee seeking the comfort of Divine Love. In my despair, each bright morning is clouded by my tears. I long for the Light of understanding to brighten my daily life. Too often I am content in this misery and tell myself that no one cares, but my heart knows better. Help me, Father, to raise my head and see the light of truth. Sometimes I am ashamed to ask Thee again for thy Forgiveness, so I continue in my miserable ways. I know this is not the truth, I know Thy mercy is everlasting. Before I experience the day ahead, help me to raise my head to thee. Let thy light shine upon me, fill my soul with new hope and erase the misery of self pity. I reach out my hand, dear Father,and feel thy blessing now filling me with the Heavenly light of new hope and hapiness. With this Holy light bright within me, I can now face the shadows of my own actions. I give Thee my fears of yesterday as I look up at the eternal light of peace and Truth. Amen.

The card, when used in interpretation (which I rarely do) - I use them to meditate - means 'Look up, and see the light, it shines by day as it does by night.
When the card is reversed, the interpretation is more Swallow pride, why don't you ask? Halve the problem, halve the task.

I use cards according to my 'stage' , as I feel it, which I why I have returned to the 'Innocent' (the fool) who is setting out, open minded, to find his way through the world of tortuous paths.

The nearest I can find to the card you are refering to is the inverted Magician.

I think this aptly substatiates others' mentions of paranoia in you; I wish you the best, and I hope you find peace.